Community Clash FC vs TIW

[Hamma]

http://www.planetside-universe.com/news-community-clash-fc-vs-tiw-3062.htm

Tune in again next Wednesday as AGN and ReachCast Show bring you the next matchup of Community Clash! Next week brings us two outfits who fully intend to participate in MLG! Future Crew fresh off their victory at SOE Live vs The Iron Wolves will Vanu once again reign supreme or will the New Conglomerate achieve victory this time? Tune in and watch them compete live Wednesday September 11th at 8PM Central Time.

[NUKABAZOOKA]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/ae6f150282f2c6fb76844f0e6844968b/tumblr_mghc4yYxaK1ry10fwo1_400.gif

[Sledgecrushr]

This will be a gud fight.

[Hyncharas]

Almost all of TIW are BR90-100; unless FC have similar forces, I don't see it being a long contest.

[LuNaTIcFrEAk]

Almost all of TIW are BR90-100; unless FC have similar forces, I don't see it being a long contest.

BR100s scare me, I think I will not attend and cry myself to sleep instead

http://sig.planetside-universe.com/5428010618040699201.png

[kcirreda]

Almost all of TIW are BR90-100; unless FC have similar forces, I don't see it being a long contest.

FCRW has a higher average BR, the pairing is two of Planetside's top level outfits and it'll be amazing to watch.

[Wahooo]

Almost all of TIW are BR90-100; unless FC have similar forces, I don't see it being a long contest.

LOL!

[Kalee J]

Almost all of TIW are BR90-100; unless FC have similar forces, I don't see it being a long contest.

:rofl:

[NoXousX]

BR matters guys. IT MATTERS OK.

[NUKABAZOOKA]

Almost all of TIW are BR90-100; unless FC have similar forces, I don't see it being a long contest.

Are you new here?

[LeilaniRock]

Are you new here?

Haha,made my day!
FC for the win!!


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[atesc]

Almost all of TIW are BR90-100; unless FC have similar forces, I don't see it being a long contest.

http://i.imgur.com/HE4Idkp.jpg

[kidriot]

..................


no words

[PredatorFour]

I got 300 of the queen's finest on future crew... do me proud.

[Mordelicius]

I gotta say I've never seen Future Crew fight before.

I'm anxious how they stack up against TIW (and to be fair) vice versa.

This better be a battle royale.

[SKYeXile]

Almost all of TIW are BR90-100; unless FC have similar forces, I don't see it being a long contest.

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/067/7/8/pinkie_pie_and_rarity_stunned_by_exe2001-d4s4aye.png

Looks like those BR100's with their massive epeens have been going to town on you.

[theBauce]

I gotta say I've never seen Future Crew fight before.

I'm anxious how they stack up against TIW (and to be fair) vice versa.

This better be a battle royale.

Future Crew sucks. All they do is sit in spawns using the Underbarrel Grenadelauncher to pad their stats.

[Hmr85]

Future Crew sucks. All they do is sit in spawns using the Underbarrel Grenadelauncher to pad their stats.

I can confirm this as being true.

[ShockFC]

HYPE!!!!!!

[ShockFC]

I can confirm this as being true.

WE WOULD NEVER!

(ok yes we would)

[Hamma]

:lol:

Should be a fun matchup.

[lampenfieber]

I dont know the others, but i gonna enjoy :-)

[KesTro]

I've got $50 on FCRW as much as certain key member annoy me in their MAX I guess I'll be rooting for yall this time.

[Hmr85]

GL FCRW..Looking forward to watching the match.

[Hamma]

We had to cancel tonights matchup due to test server issues. We are looking for some outifts to follow randomly in the game world if anyone is up for it.

[Kalee J]

Aww :(

Well, the substitute Outfit Voyeurism should be fun :)

[Sledgecrushr]

No MLG teabagging?

[Gonefshn]

Future crew will win every round. Never heard of the iron wolves.

I might be ignorant but oh well.

[Snipefrag]

Sad times, was very much looking forward to this.

[Hamma]

Yea sorry guys, the Test Server was unplayable and doing this on live simply won't work. September 4th at 8PM tunein! :D

[Snipefrag]

Yea sorry guys, the Test Server was unplayable and doing this on live simply won't work. September 4th at 8PM tunein! :D

cool, on my birthday.. I will consider it a prrsent from PSU <3

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[Falcon_br]

I have a person that I know on TIW, Yooko:
https://players.planetside2.com/#!/5428011263288535313

He and Kabei and one of the best maxes players on the server. I am eager to see them fighting zoe maxes.

Of course I want the VS to Win, but I am sure it won´t be an easy match.

Normally when my squad is facing TIW, we do like this, c4 on a TIW max, normally Kabei or Yooko, camp his body, they really care about k/d so several medics from TIW will come to resurrect them, we kill those medics and force then to leave, because they don´t accept losing K/D, they only pick easy fights.
The c4 is required because on a squad of 12, normally they have 5 medics and 5 engineers and 2 maxes, on a bio lab, I call those maxes as leaders and the medics and engineers as slaves.
They also run with a full medic squad, so they don´t lose k/d, when they do that, we max crash on their face.
They also spawn on camped bases, grab a sniper rifle or a max and keep shooting from the spawn shield, today toks5 was doing that on all bases the adrenaline/hell angels platoon was attacking during the Indar event.
Because I know yooko I always taunt him, like, get out the respawn room, come outside, be a man and face me! But he never does it. I know him since the first days of the game, so I know he is a coward that only cares about k/d and certs, he is also the person who did the scatmaxes are not OP video, posted here several times for the scatmaxes lovers, a person with 6.000 kill with each scatmax arm, really think his weapon is not op, I really want to see he facing a zoe max, just be ready, he uses charge to don´t let zoe maxes run away!

For those that don´t know TIW:
https://players.planetside2.com/#!/outfits/?outfit=37509507321450042

They normally recruit all NC on the TOP 100 NC leaderboard to his Outfit, that´s how they work, place all high BR players on a single squad and keep harassing the enemy for cheap certs.

I really think a mix of High BR / Low BR is what work on this game, when building a platoon I always try to make the most even distribution ever, so the good ones can help the bad ones to archive more in the field.
But sometimes it is really bad to join a pub platoon and see that the highest BR in the platoon is BR 20.

[Hamma]

Sorry guys but the test server is still busted we have had to delay this once again until the 11th. We are working on some things to hopefully limit our reliance on Test in the future.

[CrimsonTemplar]

Sorry guys but the test server is still busted we have had to delay this once again until the 11th. We are working on some things to hopefully limit our reliance on Test in the future.

What are these things? The power to lock out a cont? Your own server? I'm intrigued.

[NightmareMan]

I fell into a deep slumber the other night and had a dream that I would like share.

In the dream I was walking down a long dark hallway with a very dim light at the end and only darkness behind. The hall was lined with ominous doors of deep reds, dark blues, ominous yellows, and inky blacks. I continued forward knowing that Vanu's love would keep me strong as I had accepted his tentacled embrace long ago. As I continued on the doors slowly began to open and shadowy figures began to lash out and strike me.

I began to run for the light as the demons in the dark increased their onslaught. Eventually I was felled to my knees from a mighty blow and began to crawl as the monsters laughed in delight, kicking and stomping with glee. Nearly at the end of my strength I sent out a silent prayer to Vanu: "Lord, aid me in my time of need!" Then there was a bright light that pushed the creatures back in fear and voice above me whispered "Stand brother, stand..."

As I looked up I gazed upon a group of strong young men, muscular, glitter coated bodies sparkling in the bright light, clad only in speedos and cradling long powerful looking weapons in their hands I knew I had been saved. As I stood they handed me a weapon and said to me "Come brother, lets us cleanse the darkness from this place." We turned as one and opened fire upon those shadowy figures, dowsing them with our holy light. The holy weapons throbbed in our hands as thick luminous globs of sticky white love coated everything as the shadowy figures were covered in our orgy of vengeance! The scene before me eventually became so bright I had to close my eyes against it's grandeur.

When I finally opened my eyes I was in a fantastical land of unicorns and rainbows. I looked up and the sun was our Lord Vanu shining down upon us, too bright to fully gaze upon, his distinct tentacles writhing around him. All the shadowy figures had been transformed into Care Bears! We began to frolic and dance, enjoying this new boon granted to us, I dove into a lake filled with rainbows and when I came up I was back in my bed well rested and unafraid.

The message Vanu sent me that night was clear: believe in me and I will lead you back to that promised land. Our path is the future as we move forward as all other paths lead to death and stagnation. We will harm you, hurt you, and force you back into the holy respawning tubes so that Vanu can bless you again and again with the sacred nanites. Vanu is love and we are his holy acolytes. May you taste the rainbow forever.

Amen.

-The Vanu Pope

[Sardus]

Awesome

Is this the man that dressed up like the pope at SOE live? AWESOME

[NUKABAZOOKA]

Is this the man that dressed up like the pope at SOE live? AWESOME

Indeed it is.

[Mordelicius]

The constant delays :cry: are driving up the anticipation for this matchup even more. :p

[Hamma]

We finally got this match underway tonight and it was a blast to watch - recording in the next day or two!

[Runklite]

So FC just absolutely smashed TIW.

[BlaxicanX]

What a surprise. :rolleyes:

[Mordelicius]

Forgot about this and missed it. There was an epic, cliffhanger Indar Waterson alert :D (NC won! 34% NC 33% TR 32% VS).

Anyway, just saw the replay. Some objective thoughts:

1) FC is most organized Vanu group i've seen fight, they earned the hype for sure. These guys are pretty in sync. They are, imo, easily better than Zaps or Xoo in Waterson.

2) FC dominating TiW is not what I expected. Props to them, they are a much well oiled machine. It's like they have a hive mind.

3) Despite that, I don't believe the gap between the two aren't that very apart. I think FC know each other really well, while TiW is more about directions and instincts.

If anyone have read my numerous GU feedback/posts :lol: I've always complained about Vanu being OP, esp their ZOE and guns.

But imo, i think if everyone has equal things, FC still much more organized, but the gap in terms of skill isn't as big as what the fight had shown.

Again, that's my objective opinion. TiW need more practice if they hope to uppend FC soon.

I'm really curious what other collection of NC can compete like this. if TiW struggles like this, then who else can fight? In Waterson, although the balance of strengh are pretty much spread out (some more diluted. ex. DVS has a strong core). In terms of being stacked, TiW comes out of top. I also note some of their new members are originally from other outfits.

4) Having said that, NUC, is imo their last obstacle. I haven't seen other outfits that can compete at this level (not to say there aren't any European ones that can, but only in terms of what I've seen).

Curious though, NUC relies more on combined arms in fighting. Although, they are even more stacked than TiW, it's going to be interesting how they can tailor their fights under the community clash rules.

Their suffocating turtle defense on points and surroundings with Maxes, Engies, and Medics vs FC's mobility, flexibility and even unpredictability will be most interesting to see. See, NUC relies on alot of things including vehicles. I haven't seen FC on vehicles yet.

Community Clash Suggestion:

My only suggestion is maybe have a platoon each and two close bases. Allow them to fight it out the same way, instead of just bases. Then switch the bases for both sides as usual.

Last thoughts, the Community Clash show was fun to watch and was well presented and organized (thank you). (As a personally biased aside, I'm sad the NC Waterson contingent didn't win :( . I think if there will ever be a rematch they will be much more ready)

Hope to see Future Crew vs NUC eventually. That will be even more brutal.

[Falcon_br]

What I saw was:
FC is here since day one, fighting side by side since day one, they know each member on the outfit by his real name. They know what anyone is good at and make specialization in roles to work good. They use military talking and strategy.
TIW is a reunion all top 100 leaderboard players on waterson, they come from multiple outfits, most of then are on TIW no longer then two months.
They play several roles, because when everyone is BR 100, they are tired of doing farming and they are trying new stuff and they lose his specialization role with that. TIW is just feared because they only move in big groups with big guns, it is common to see TIW doing max crashers to defend a tower, and they always rush to the enemy sunderer, normal outfit don´t have that many resouces or numbers to stop then, and we can´t forget they always have players with BR lower then 100 playing with medics and engineers just to keep then alive, I call those guys, TI slaves.
Always camp a TIW body, it is sure medics are coming to resurrect him if he is BR 100.

[Sledgecrushr]

I cant wait to see this on youtube.

Some thoughts on FC. Ive fought Fc several times. And each and every member is rock solid. But there are a couple of these guys that outshine everyone. They are the rock that the entire outfit pivots off of. If you can get over a thousand kills with a flare gun and make it look easy. Rediculous...

Between TwF, Itzmurda and ScourgeoftheServer you probably have the three best players in planetside 2. Surround those guys with awesome players and you really have an unstoppable force.

[Sledgecrushr]

Looking forward to watching this on youtube.

[Hamma]

We are hoping to have it up either late tonight or early tomorrow :D

When are we going to see Devil Dogs on a CC?! :)

[Boyer]

The match was a blast. Props to all the Reach Cast guys for putting it on.

[EVILPIG]

When are we going to see Devil Dogs on a CC?! :)

I've been discussing it for weeks, but this match kept getting postponed. When will Nexus be live?

[AuntLou]

The second round should have been reset at 16 and should NOT have been left up to the leaders to decide. "Cause my guys are going to rage quit" is no reason to not run the match fairly. How do you not realize that the points you gained were because the hard sunderer was destroyed? I personally wouldn't want those pity points.

I really think it is going to be hard to find a good matchup for Future Crew. TIW was a good choice given the information they had minus the k/ds being a bit spread. After watching this show I'd only put them up against one of the elite outfits that has also won a clash.

Great show Community Clash! Was a pretty stressful one and you guys handled it well.

[Snipefrag]

Great show Hamma/AGN crew, this show is the one that has finally sold the idea of MLG Planetside to me. It was a blast to watch, even with all the hiccups.. Few suggestions... some you mentioned, but just to reiterate:

1) Scoreboard
2) The player perspective cameras to have their names showing somewhere, they can just stick them on the screen using a default font in a place you suggest

Great work by FC, i had you guys nailed down to win it. Unlucky TiW, i empathize with you, balance needs to improve to make PS2 work in MLG.

[NUKABAZOOKA]

2) FC dominating TiW is not what I expected.


Care to elaborate on why you expected it to go the other way?

[Hamma]

Great Suggestions Snipe!

I've been discussing it for weeks, but this match kept getting postponed. When will Nexus be live?

You will be waiting a while I think. One thing we are getting is a private server for these matches that will have fully unlocked chars. Something you should definitely be a part of ;)

[Boyer]

Private servers sound nice.

[Hamma]

Indeed, it makes it much more fair for everyone involved and much easier for us to manage. It's not battle islands but it's a closed off area where we have free reign. Which in the end is all we really need, Battle Islands will be nice but this will work too. :D

[EVILPIG]

Great Suggestions Snipe!



You will be waiting a while I think. One thing we are getting is a private server for these matches that will have fully unlocked chars. Something you should definitely be a part of ;)

Nice! We've been discussing it, our Competitive Match Team coordinator is very busy with RL ATM, so we're lagging.

[Sardus]

I am a fond believer that outfit synergy is > sheer player skill (e.g. stacking an outfit with high K/Ds).

I've known FC for nearly a decade. Not only do they have killers, but they have synergy. That is a very dangerous combination.

There are really three things that win in planetside higher level competition:

1) Raw Skill, both support and offense
2) Outfit synergy (do you know your teammates, do they trust you? can you read their mind)
3) Leadership/Tactics. Do you have strong leaders who can keep cool and adjust the plan and outsmart the other team. (Can you predict the OTHER team and counter)

Every outfit has their strengths and weaknesses. Playing to your strengths is good, but you need balance the three things I mentioned above.

Point being: at the end of the day its not all about your individual player stats. It certainly helps to have individually really good players, but anyone can killfarm.

[Wahooo]

I am a fond believer that outfit synergy is > sheer player skill (e.g. stacking an outfit with high K/Ds).

I've known FC for nearly a decade. Not only do they have killers, they have synergy. That is a very dangerous combination.

There are really three things that win in planetside higher level competition:

1) Raw Skill, both support and offense
2) Outfit synergy (do you know your teammates, do they trust you? can you read their mind)
3) Leadership/Tactics. Do you have strong leaders who can keep cool and adjust the plan and outsmart the other team. (Can you predict the OTHER team and counter)

Every outfit has their strengths and weaknesses. Playing to your strengths is good, but you need balance the three things I mentioned above.

Which is why the result last night really shouldn't be that much of a surprise. To a player TIW might have some decent kill whores but on average FC is better. TIW have a decent ability to work together and can certainly stomp an unorganized zerg, but FC does this much better. Tactics that go without saying as well. FC having unsaid, unwritten ways of doing things in a group is pretty astounding. You take a bunch of guys that even if you play with them, and know they are not cheating you still wonder just how they kill so many so fast, THEN put them together in an organized group? yeah...

[AuntLou]

Great Suggestions Snipe!



You will be waiting a while I think. One thing we are getting is a private server for these matches that will have fully unlocked chars. Something you should definitely be a part of ;)

That is freaken awesome. With your own private server who the hell needs a battle island?

[Mordelicius]

Care to elaborate on why you expected it to go the other way?

Easily. First reread my first post in thread on the first page.

I gotta say I've never seen Future Crew fight before.

I'm anxious how they stack up against TIW (and to be fair) vice versa.

This better be a battle royale.

What that simply means is I'm not expecting (what my opinion is ) is to be the strongest, stacked NC outfit to be dominated.

You're reading wayyy too much into this lol.

[Mordelicius]

What I saw was:
FC is here since day one, fighting side by side since day one, they know each member on the outfit by his real name. They know what anyone is good at and make specialization in roles to work good. They use military talking and strategy.
TIW is a reunion all top 100 leaderboard players on waterson, they come from multiple outfits, most of then are on TIW no longer then two months.
They play several roles, because when everyone is BR 100, they are tired of doing farming and they are trying new stuff and they lose his specialization role with that. TIW is just feared because they only move in big groups with big guns, it is common to see TIW doing max crashers to defend a tower, and they always rush to the enemy sunderer, normal outfit don´t have that many resouces or numbers to stop then, and we can´t forget they always have players with BR lower then 100 playing with medics and engineers just to keep then alive, I call those guys, TI slaves.
Always camp a TIW body, it is sure medics are coming to resurrect him if he is BR 100.

Quite obvious from the video, FC knows weaknesses and counters too. They used rocket launchers on NC Maxes. C4 are harder to use on TR and VS maxes, so rocket launchers are the only viable counter on tight corridors and door entrances.

They came up with the initial strategy to spawn contain, but they didn't even bring HAs with a dumbfire RL to suppress the VS Max. Those MAx/Engie/Medic combo is not going to do crap against multiple Maxes plus a bevy of organized flankers because all the dps they've got are the short ranged Maxes.

Again, imo, skillwise the gap is not that big. It's the organization is where FC truly shines. This again leads me to thinking about a future battle againts NUC.

NUC is also highly adaptable. They don't adapt as quickly on the fly though. I see their adaptation probably happen in a day. If a couple of bad things happen to them (something they've never experienced before), maybe in the next encounter, they've already devised a counter. So, I see their ability to adapt to situation becoming more ingrained day by day.

Having said that, I haven't seen FC's combine arms gameplay. That's where NUC excel with the dominant HE, Marauder, Vulcan plus their air suppression/cover abilities with Mossies and Libs.

Imo, the weakness of NUC is they avoid the really heavily fortified bases. On yesterday's alert, they've resecured the pallisade from being capped. NC was waiting on the next tower. The rest of the TR attacked and got slaughtered, they didn't join. They much rather have catching a base off guard with a Galaxy drop and then having a solid base capture point secure and/or spawn containment.

[toksfive]

(repost from reddit)

Honestly, we got our faces smashed in. With the exception of our Air team. FC has extremly talented players. TIW also has talented players. FC had much better teamwork, stradegy and tactics. I personally could not beat the majority of their players 1v1 with medic. I equipped heavy, and I felt it was an even match. FC players are really good but, they are not Traseros good. The main reason why TIW failed was because; TIW tactic's for: capping points, holding points and moving as a team is terrible compared to FC. We need to work on teamwork if we are to compete again.

Also thanks for the fight FC, I had fun despite the complete curb stomping. I learned alot and realized more. I hope when we learn to play as a team we will rematch you guys!

I am also proud of all TIW members who stayed for the whole fight, and did not log out like many outfits do when they are losing. We played to the end!

[toksfive]

I fell into a deep slumber the other night and had a dream that I would like share.

In the dream I was walking down a long dark hallway with a very dim light at the end and only darkness behind. The hall was lined with ominous doors of deep reds, dark blues, ominous yellows, and inky blacks. I continued forward knowing that Vanu's love would keep me strong as I had accepted his tentacled embrace long ago. As I continued on the doors slowly began to open and shadowy figures began to lash out and strike me.

I began to run for the light as the demons in the dark increased their onslaught. Eventually I was felled to my knees from a mighty blow and began to crawl as the monsters laughed in delight, kicking and stomping with glee. Nearly at the end of my strength I sent out a silent prayer to Vanu: "Lord, aid me in my time of need!" Then there was a bright light that pushed the creatures back in fear and voice above me whispered "Stand brother, stand..."

As I looked up I gazed upon a group of strong young men, muscular, glitter coated bodies sparkling in the bright light, clad only in speedos and cradling long powerful looking weapons in their hands I knew I had been saved. As I stood they handed me a weapon and said to me "Come brother, lets us cleanse the darkness from this place." We turned as one and opened fire upon those shadowy figures, dowsing them with our holy light. The holy weapons throbbed in our hands as thick luminous globs of sticky white love coated everything as the shadowy figures were covered in our orgy of vengeance! The scene before me eventually became so bright I had to close my eyes against it's grandeur.

When I finally opened my eyes I was in a fantastical land of unicorns and rainbows. I looked up and the sun was our Lord Vanu shining down upon us, too bright to fully gaze upon, his distinct tentacles writhing around him. All the shadowy figures had been transformed into Care Bears! We began to frolic and dance, enjoying this new boon granted to us, I dove into a lake filled with rainbows and when I came up I was back in my bed well rested and unafraid.

The message Vanu sent me that night was clear: believe in me and I will lead you back to that promised land. Our path is the future as we move forward as all other paths lead to death and stagnation. We will harm you, hurt you, and force you back into the holy respawning tubes so that Vanu can bless you again and again with the sacred nanites. Vanu is love and we are his holy acolytes. May you taste the rainbow forever.

Amen.

-The Vanu Pope

Your posts are almost as good as your dancing :)

[SKYeXile]

2) FC dominating TiW is not what I expected. Props to them, they are a much well oiled machine. It's like they have a hive mind.

Actually its probably because we dont operate on a hive mind, from what iv seen most planetside outfits are military sim outfits, filled with weak minded submissive men and an inability to have free thoughts or their ability for free thought is being suppressed by their overlord. On the other hand, FC is all sharks, fabulous sharks, with laser beams strapped to their heads.

[Baneblade]

NUC Liberators really hate getting shot down by Vanguards.

[NightmareMan]

Your posts are almost as good as your dancing :)

I should come to these forums more often! Twas a horrible Dj that night, but still....we danced!