"Will you be taking a break from PS2 for BF4?" - ReachCast Episode 54 CQ

[ReachCast]

This weeks question is ...

“With the coming release of Battlefield 4 this week will you be taking a break from Planetside 2 to play it?”

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[Kalee J]

No, I will not. I have never played a Battlefield game. The idea is not as appealing to me as Planetside 2. Ultimately, it's the persistant world MMO aspect of the Planetside franchise that has kept me interested for all these years. I have played other first person shooters, but usually not much past the initial single player campaign. The grand scale of Planetside's multiplayer experience and light MMO style character progression is what keeps me engaged. Arena style shooters seem small in comparison, in my opinion.

[ChipMHazard]

Depends on how the optimization works out and what kind of plans SOE puts forward after that. Specifically Hossin and adding in an actual purpose to the game: continental locking.
Obviously it also depends on how good BF4 ends up being.

[Snipefrag]

nope, EA arent getting a penny out of me after the debacle thst was BF3.

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[Tatwi]

nope, EA arent getting a penny out of me after the debacle thst was BF3.

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What was wrong with BF3? I've never played it, but from all I have read and seen, it was a wild success. Millions of copies sold, great reviews, several awards won, etc.

[CrimsonTemplar]

Well good news, the open beta isn't far away. Just a three more days until we can all give it a test out. I know it ain't the final product but it would give a general idea of where it's going. After a month, back to old PS2.

Won't pre-order. I never do for obvious reasons.

I'll probably just buy it on the day/maybe December, when the price has lowered a bit.

[Sarloh]

Nope!

[fierce deity]

No because I am not planning on buying it.

[snafus]

Me and many of our guys plan on giving it some attention during the Beta and launch. Truthfully it is more of a band-aid as we wait for PS2 to actually start creating content or another game comes "Star Citizen".

[Sonny]

Nah, any FPS with less than 100 players a side now feels too restrictive for me :)

[EVILPIG]

[SIZE="6"]as always if you would like to call or email in your answer

This always seems to escape some folks.

[ChipMHazard]

They still read the thread.

[bpostal]

This always seems to escape some folks.
I can do a drunken post on the internets or a drunken phone call, at least this is semi-legible.

Also, isn't BF4 owned and distributed by EA? I'll shoot myself in the dick before I buy another EA masterpiece. I didn't even bother torrenting BF3.

So not only no, but fuck no. I will not be taking a break for BF4.

[Snipefrag]

At least for me.. I had so many problems. Battle net being really flakey, horrendous load times getting into a game. Crashing every couple of hours with a crash that has been around in their engine since bf:bc.. Overall it was just a big pile of steaming doodoo, I dont see much merit in paying for slightly updated version of bf3. Even without all the bugs I didnt really find it that fun.

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[Dougnifico]

I will, but that's only because I want something new in general. Once the optimization is finished and new content starts coming in again, I'll be back.

[isilyan]

Dont see how i could deal with the new EA control(after 2142) takeover of a game that i used to love....
But will give it a shot because of RL friends who i will never get to play PS2 :(

[Taramafor]

Worse hit detection than bf3 and customization (squad perks are replaced by a crappy squad wipe killstreak system thing) , more pay to win (battle packs), but more interactive maps. Is it good, ya but it is heavily burdened with monetary purchases considering you already had to pay for the game.

Now I know I won't be getting it. Wallet's tight enough as it is without paying for MORE stuff that should come with the game.

Now I fear battlefront 3 will fair just as badly as it's the same company. :(

Quoted from the TRG site (the later being myself). So nope. If they hadn't pulled this crap it might have been a maybe but now? Forget about it.

[Escroteitor]

I think battlefield series are following the path of call of duty...

Too many BF's in that last years. Way too much.

So no, even If I enjoyed the battlefield series, specially BF2, after the rush release of BF3 and bad company 2 I lose the hope on BF.

[camycamera]

no, and never. although i will have a look at the BF4 open beta, but i don't think i'll buy into it.

[Phrygen]

undecided. I'm not interesting in a pay to win game on top of paying for the game...

I have similar concerns with the crowdfunding that Star Citizen has been doing. Massive benefits for players who pay 1000 bucks 2 years before a game is released? I mean i could maybe put down 60 bucks or something, but the idea of paying for a game 2 years before its released.... I remember the massive let down that TOR was without all that pay to win and crowdfunding shit added on. I like the indi developer going big thing but still....

Honestly i wish Offensive combat was still in 1.0... i just want to shoot people in some death match that isn't anymore COD bullshit. Last good COD was the first COD4MW. After that it went downhill for me.

[Rolfski]

My thoughts are still with the TR..

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[Hmr85]

NO, I haven't cared for the BF series since BF2142.

[Boomzor]

Harsh truth is, I will take a break from Planetside 2 because of Planetside 2.

Whatever game that happens to be around at the time is just a convenient excuse.

[Rahabib]

I am bored. I haven't played PS2 for a few weeks. I wont be back until resources are overhauled.

The fact is, theres no depth to this game. The cool factor with the scale wears off quickly.

Ill try BF4, but I have a ton of back catalog games in steam to play, so its not BF4, its just that there are so many other games to play until SOE can get their ... crap ... together.

[Qwan]

Umm yea I will be taking some BF4 time, I need a break ya know.

Plus I just got layed off.

[Boildown]

I haven't played a single Battlefield game since Vietnam. So no, I won't be touching BF4. PS2 is it, until Star Citizen Dogfighting Module, and then it will depend on what I feel like doing.

[MasterSgtStrike]

I will be taking a break from PS2 to go play BF4, and there are a couple reason you might all want to consider. The only people responding to this post so far as PS2 fanboys. Pump up your game all you like but there is no such thing as a perfect game both will have their flaws. However that being said BF4 is not pay to win as someone stated earlier. Battle packs are cosmetics and they are unlocked with Exp not money. Yes load times are long with BF4 but this is BETA, how many times does that have to be repeated beta is beta for a reason and the game isnt optimised. As for the 4 hours i've personally put into it so far, its great and another AAA shooter title by dice.

In conclusion until the day comes where im finding myself with 120+ frames on ultra settings with something a bit more meaningful to unlock with PS2 comes back I dont see myself returning.

[ChipMHazard]

The only people responding to this post so far as PS2 fanboys.

Uhm, wrong?

[MasterSgtStrike]

That comment itself is proving to the argument.

Planetisde 2 is unique, yes. However the ammount of problems the game has to are also unique-ly bad. Seeing as the game is marketed as an MMO it has very little end game to truly keep one satisfied after reaching BR 100 there is nothing left to do. Alerts altho fun at the beginning are gimmicky now and have no effect on how I play when I log in. Most arguments I see from people are on how BF is to small and not enough players. Ill in turn ask you a question:

When is the last time you were in a multi platoon fight 2x48+ on both sides zerg where you felt it was enjoyable and not a farm or zerg just smashing into a smaller force?

If that time table is more than one day old or even a few hours, that is to long. I spend the majority of my time redeploying to new fightes because one dried up going 10-20 minutes between real good fighting. With latice ghost caping is less and thats good, but finding a good fight is not instant.

TL: DR Planetside will be losing players plain and simple, the ones you arent hearing from are the ones who are already gone.

[TimoWasTaken]

Nope, I'm done with EA. Never again.

[ChipMHazard]

That comment itself is proving to the argument.

How so? If you consider me a PS2 fanboy then you haven't been here long enough.
Did you miss those whom made posts about playing BF4?
http://www.planetside-universe.com/showthread.php?t=56674

If you think people here are incapable of seeing the issues with PS2 then you're wrong, simple as. I do admit that there are people whom have a somewhat extreme loathing towards EA and DICE, IMO. My impression from having watched gameplay videos is that BF4 looks like a great game and a step forward when compared to BF3, which might not be saying much.

[MasterSgtStrike]

I've read enough to know YOU personally arent but a lot are. I've also read that post enough to see that it turned into an EA this and EA that thread and blah blah blah. The fact remains, I love a good shooter. The good fights in PS2 are just few and far between is what im getting at. I have hopes for the game to continue on and get to what the game dev's invisioned.

Scale doesnt matter if a good fight only happens once ever 3 hours, and especialy if you're not around to see it.

If at some point there is a major change to the game where getting some sence of accomplishment orther than the weak buff for continent capping durring a non peak hour on the continent of focus happens, I am all game for it.

[MasterSgtStrike]

If you think people here are incapable of seeing the issues with PS2 then you're wrong, simple as. I do admit that there are people whom have an irrational loathing towards EA and DICE, imo. My impression from having watched gameplay videos is that BF4 looks like a great game and a step forward when compared to BF3.

Well competition will hopefully push both games in the proper direction. Without that they will both feel inclined to not progress.

[ChipMHazard]

I've read enough to know YOU personally arent but a lot are. I've also read that post enough to see that it turned into an EA this and EA that thread and blah blah blah. The fact remains, I love a good shooter. The good fights in PS2 are just few and far between is what im getting at. I have hopes for the game to continue on and get to what the game dev's invisioned.

Scale doesnt matter if a good fight only happens once ever 3 hours, and especialy if you're not around to see it.

If at some point there is a major change to the game where getting some sence of accomplishment orther than the weak buff for continent capping durring a non peak hour on the continent of focus happens, I am all game for it.

Agreed. Except that I still don't think there are that many PS2 "fanboys" here, at least not by my definition.

[Tatwi]

Agreed. Except that I still don't think there are that many PS2 "fanboys" here, at least not by my definition.

That would be because you are one of the biggest, most annoying PS2 fanbois on this forum. Sadly, you're also a moderator now. The fact that you folks don't comprehend this is why I stopped participating in this community.

[EVILPIG]

What relevance does being a "fanboy" have to anyone's answer? One can certainly say, "no" and not be a fanboy. One may also be a fanboy and still opt to play BF4 when it comes out.

[MasterSgtStrike]

EvilPig - ChimpHazard earlier linked the other thread in reguards to BF4 vs PS2 and if you if would lose players ect to BF4. To the overall feeling over that thread was that PS2 would be realitivly uneffected. That thought to itself shows bias or an extream niave-ness that one would find in a 'fanboy'.

Persoanlly, games need fans and followers to be succesful, so it's not a bad thing. The problem comes when change is coming and people are kicking it under the bus like its not. The truth is BF4 is coming. It WILL be great. It WILL win awards. It WILL take part of PS2's player base. To pretend it wont, you might as well be an ostridge with your head in the dirt.

As reguarding to your post, people CAN say no they wont play BF4, but leave it that. Dont turn it into I have a vendetta against EA and create an argument from that. That is dumb.

[Tatwi]

What relevance does being a "fanboy" have to anyone's answer? One can certainly say, "no" and not be a fanboy. One may also be a fanboy and still opt to play BF4 when it comes out.

Indeed!

I should clarify that I was referring to excessive lack of objectivity and the willingness to downplay other people's concerns that has been happening around here this year. Attempting to communicate in such an environment is demoralizing and pointless.

As an example, months ago I posted about headshots being too easy, because I was able to get them at 10 to 15 FPS on moving targets without really aiming. Either the game had some kind of built in auto aim or it was broken. It was stupid easy to headshot a 40 pixel high standing target from 300m away. What happened in the thread? Absolutely no discussion, just a torrent of whiners not wanting to be nerfed. Screw objectivity and discussion, everything is fine! If you don't agree, fuck off!

I fucked off. For the most part. See you in another few months, I guess.

[ChipMHazard]

That would be because you are one of the biggest, most annoying PS2 fanbois on this forum. Sadly, you're also a moderator now. The fact that you folks don't comprehend this is why I stopped participating in this community.

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:p

What relevance does being a "fanboy" have to anyone's answer? One can certainly say, "no" and not be a fanboy. One may also be a fanboy and still opt to play BF4 when it comes out.

I agree. People can also have issues with both EA and DICE and still not be a PS2 fanboy. If I have a serious issue with how a company deals with its consumers then I probably won't purchase anything from them.

[Calista]

Well this is a Planetside 2 fan-site after all and a certain bias level is to be expected.

[MasterSgtStrike]

Well this is a Planetside 2 fan-site after all and a certain bias level is to be expected.

Tis true. As I do Enjoy PS2, I'm sure you can see that from how much time I've invested into it thus far. To me tho- I just find it funny how much nay saying theres is LOL!

[RageTell]

Nope.

I got into the BF series briefly and invested some hours into BF3. IMO BF3's fundamental flaw is the repetition. I got tired pretty quickly after the maps lost their freshness. I remember setting a goal (it was to unlock X gun with X attachments & build my engineer with X equipment) and once I unlocked that stuff and got used to the maps/other classes I went right back to planetside. The fight, rinse, repeat model just isnt for me. I have played a lot of different games and planetside is the only one that keeps me around.

[Emperor Newt]

Nope. Primarily because I don't see anyhing in BF4 that make it way better then BF3 was/is. Also largely because Bad Company 2 was the last Battlefield game I enjoyed. I bought BF3 but overall it's not what I wanted from a BF game. The attempt to go down the cinematic-realism route was were BF lost me. But I am playing less and less PS2 currently anyway so in the end, it wouldn't really matter if I bought it or not. I am more or less on a break anyway and spending more time on other games.

[WhangDong]

BF what? Nope! I'm married, have kids, and have time for one game in my life..

http://sig.planetside-universe.com/5428047126250980353.png (http://www.planetside-universe.com/character-5428047126250980353.php)

[PredatorFour]

Personally for me it's Planetside and Fifa on ps3 and that's it for the forseeable future and pretty much has been like that for years.

[NewSith]

BF what? Nope! I'm married... and have time for one game in my life..

Mmmmm... Kinky...


I'm not sure about BF4 at all. Currently the open beta has frequent lag spikes (the ones where your stable fps of seventy drops below twenty for 1-2 seconds), not to mention that 50% of the participants can't get past the loading screen... I guess, I'll be buying the game only after I tried the release version somehow.


As for PS2 - it's not, nor is going to be my game to play for quite a while. My problem with it is it's a 24/7 threeway on all continents, which gets boring really fast, and very poor facility designs aimed at quake-like combat. I'm afraid that by the time these things change (if they change at all), the game's pop will convert to PS1 2006 state.


(Although I will try the game after the optimization patch. Actually this is going to be the deciding factor on whether I will wait for these core changes on PS2 or abandon it as a whole)

[Huntsab]

Just goes to show the demographic PS2 was aimed at, right? Oh how I miss the old days. PS1 was so much more epic.

[ShadoViper]

Won't be taking a break for BF4. But I have cancelled the sub and am breaking for a couple months because of Planetside 2. Can't say I'm really bothering to play much at all any more.

I also realized the optimization patch for me, will end up being much of anything new or exciting on my end.

So I'll come back in a couple months and see what's new. Hopefully they will have released more content by then.

[LoliLoveFart]

Will be taking a break from PS2 for BF4. Once BF4 gets stale and some interesting stuff has happened in PS2 (forever the optimist) I may come back but just generally feeling burnt out of PS2.

[Ruffdog]

Already taking a break. Not for BF4

I'm afraid that by the time these things change (if they change at all), the game's pop will convert to PS1 2006 state.


I don't think it'll be that bad. This thing's free. THAT thing wasn't. I think many are going to lurk in the background knowing they can hop back on board without spending a penny.
I have hopes in 6 months that this will be quite a different game experience.