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Hamma
2013-10-08, 05:15 PM
We are bringing you a special EU edition of Community Clash! On Sunday 252nd Spec Ops faces off against Deathwatch Gaming. Tune in and watch them compete live Sunday October 13th at 12PM Central Time, 6PM GMT. Not sure what time that is for you? Hit up the time zone converter. Luperza and kidRiot will be guest commentators for this episode!

http://www.planetside-universe.com/news-community-clash-eu-edition-sunday-252v-vs-dwg-3080.htm

NewSith
2013-10-08, 05:24 PM
Deathwatch will rip 252 to shreads.

Pella
2013-10-08, 05:27 PM
This will be a great fight. DWG are great bunch of lads and are hungry for it. I wouldn't dismiss 252v though as tactically they are better imo.

PredatorFour
2013-10-08, 06:10 PM
Should be a good close fight imo... time will tell:)

bpostal
2013-10-08, 06:24 PM
Should be a good matchup! I might actually watch community clash this time around.

Kalee J
2013-10-08, 06:38 PM
Community Clash on a Sunday? EU better believe it! :D

NewSith
2013-10-08, 06:49 PM
This will be a great fight. DWG are great bunch of lads and are hungry for it. I wouldn't dismiss 252v though as tactically they are better imo.

From my NC experience, I would say that 252 may talk alot and PRETEND to be tactical, but they really aren't. Of 3 Miller NC giants - Consortium, WASP and 252, only CONZ are somewhat capable. Still, they are a mile off from PS1 MercenaryS.

Also knowing DWG and 252, this clash is going to be all about Air again I think...



What I would love to see however is teams utilizing more teamplay tools, and I believe DWG is capable of that... By such tools I mean radar-ESFs (if I am not mistaken, they were almost the first to set a standard for AMP Station radar scythe), MANA-walls, AI minespam, HE vehicle weaponry... Everything that will add abit of flavor in turn for adding a little OP.


Because the way it works right now is - all the matches are the same - Air and Infantry fight each other while 2 empires are doing a lapdance around the map, ghosthacking (I blame the rules here, though), that is NOT fun to watch without proper spectator tools.

Calista
2013-10-08, 06:50 PM
Good call getting more EU involved. Things are drying up on this side of the pond. Will be nice to see some new teams give it a try. Might be worth the effort to get Pro7 to promote it somehow as well.

Rolfski
2013-10-08, 07:36 PM
Both are capable outfits. Should be interesting to see how the air battle plays out.

Good call getting more EU involved. Things are drying up on this side of the pond. Will be nice to see some new teams give it a try. Might be worth the effort to get Pro7 to promote it somehow as well.Pro7 will come up with its own EU ladder competition. It might involve ESL as well at some point.

Brollywood
2013-10-09, 03:01 AM
I'll have this promoted on our end too yea!

Pella
2013-10-09, 03:01 AM
Good call getting more EU involved. Things are drying up on this side of the pond. Will be nice to see some new teams give it a try. Might be worth the effort to get Pro7 to promote it somehow as well.

Pro7 are launching a EU ladder :P

Furus
2013-10-09, 06:33 AM
This will indeed be a great battle,looking forward to it.

Thanks for the support Pella and to mister NewSith,who despite playing NC roots for the VS Shut Your... - YouTube

Phrygen
2013-10-09, 10:43 AM
hopefully this match is competitive, and by that I mean watchable. Last few RCCC's have looked more like public executions.

NewSith
2013-10-09, 11:05 AM
...and to mister NewSith,who despite playing NC roots for the VS Shut Your... - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSUvkR9Tp00)

Cmon... I'm just being objective there... DWG is a league you're not in. Not because you're noobs or anything, but because from my experience with DWG, their level of microcontrol (if the term can be applied to shooters) as a team is much higher. Your best shot IMO is to play defensively, forcing them to zerg constantly, partially removing their strength of individuality. If you go into offensive (as opposed to counter-offensive), you risk losing alot.

Bvenged
2013-10-09, 11:22 AM
Of 3 Miller NC giants - Consortium, WASP and 252, only CONZ are somewhat capable. Still, they are a mile off from PS1 MercenaryS..

This troubles me far more than it should.

What exactly makes you think WASP isn't capable? PM me the answers so we can keep this thread on topic. We sell ourselves as offering some of (if not the best) teamwork and organisation you can get on NC Miller, and we don't have a 90% weekly member retention rate of 100 players (discluding alts) for nothing.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to this. 252v are formidable allies of ours and DWG, while tactically superior, don't have that shock and awe factor 252 has. A tense, close fight for sure.

Furus
2013-10-09, 11:28 AM
I would like to point out that at the time of writing,NewSith has not been online since the 24th of May.

Bvenged
2013-10-09, 11:44 AM
I would like to point out that at the time of writing,NewSith has not been online since the 24th of May.

Thanks dude, new to the site and still getting used to the details :) Back in May WASP was struggling for numbers and had an identity crisis. We're well over that hill now.

Mastachief
2013-10-09, 11:48 AM
Looking forward to seeing what this is all about. We are certainly up for the 24v24 and are trying to get enough people with the test server sorted before submitted that form.

NewSith
2013-10-09, 11:58 AM
I would like to point out that at the time of writing,NewSith has not been online since the 24th of May.

"NewSith" has not. Some other character has been online after, though. Please refrain from taking my posts as offense directed at your outfit. There is no point in starting the drama until the event is over.

@Bvanged:
Same thing I said eralier about DWG vs 252... WASP needs abit more "microcontrol". I'm quite sure you can figure out what I mean by that.

PredatorFour
2013-10-09, 12:08 PM
Dwg are decent but i think 252 are decent too. There is no way one is far ahead/better of the other imo.

Chowley
2013-10-09, 12:34 PM
Newsith its certainly coming across quite trolly to be honest.

Anyway enough of that.
I just want to put out an early good luck to DWG from a 252V member. I hope the fight is fun for all involved and spectating. I'm looking forward to it. :) And ooh Nexus.

diLLa
2013-10-09, 12:35 PM
With Nexus being quite air dominant I'd say that 252V might win it, just because of that. Seen more capable pilots from them compared to DWG, who seem better on the ground.

Should be interesting though.

Calista
2013-10-09, 12:36 PM
I'll have this promoted on our end too yea!

:thumbsup:

Sounds like everyone needs to bring their "A" game.

snafus
2013-10-09, 01:24 PM
If neither of these outfits are air focused it will be interesting to see it all plays out. Though I am pretty certain it will fall into the same pattern of air dominance wins the match.

Bvenged
2013-10-09, 06:04 PM
"NewSith" has not. Some other character has been online after, though. Please refrain from taking my posts as offense directed at your outfit. There is no point in starting the drama until the event is over.

@Bvanged:
Same thing I said eralier about DWG vs 252... WASP needs abit more "microcontrol". I'm quite sure you can figure out what I mean by that.

Heheh, when I first joined WASP 6 months ago they used to tell me I micromanaged too much. It's actually rubbed off the other way. Now we have numerous strategies and plans for different squad setups for a variety of situations and locations, and we have a strong use of fireteams within our squads and excellent platoon-level cohesion.

The leaders of WASP each have strong, unique traits, and put together we learn from each other and become fairly formidable.

Since we'll never do a set up like it again, here's a less-effective point defence plan for 1 WASP infantry squad I scrambled together in my head at Rime Analytics in the first few seconds of our arrival: http://oi40.tinypic.com/2mongps.jpg

It was working well without NC support against 2 squads of TR for the first few minutes, as, much of a deathtrap as that point room is, until INI dumped 18 guys on our heads with their blasted MAXes - but regardless, the plan was ad-hoc and we had a less-than optimal composition, and yet it still worked up until that point. It took me a second to think it up and only a few seconds more for the squad to follow my orders to the line. From Gal drop, at T+10 we we set up and raring to go. Sometimes we have fixed plans, but sometimes we have to improvise, and it works out.

But nevertheless, we're never, ever going to stop improving. I'm just saying our standards are pretty bloody high atm, higher than you might expect.

I might sign us up to community clash now. We've been opaque with our inner workings and gameplay for far too long. I should go back to youtube videos too.

kidriot
2013-10-09, 10:27 PM
I've sent contact info/apps to DWG and 252nd on their respective websites. If anyone here can get their outfit/platoon leads to email me at [email protected] for pre-game information for the Community Clash I'd greatly appreciate it.

I'll be co-casting the game with Luperza. Really excited for the match and based off all the information I've gathered so far it's looking to be a close match.

Adenn
2013-10-10, 11:48 AM
I'm so going to watch this.

Frankly I believe that 252v will win but solely because IMO they have superior pilots.

ArchangeI
2013-10-10, 05:00 PM
I've sent contact info/apps to DWG and 252nd on their respective websites. If anyone here can get their outfit/platoon leads to email me at [email protected] for pre-game information for the Community Clash I'd greatly appreciate it.

I'll be co-casting the game with Luperza. Really excited for the match and based off all the information I've gathered so far it's looking to be a close match.

Ive been trying to get ahold of you by email and pm on the forums

Froufrou
2013-10-12, 02:15 PM
This should be an interesting match indeed, especially since DWG is strongly infantry focused. I really am not convinced by the whole "air dominance" thing when it comes to 24v24.
And even if it was true, there's a couple of very decent pilots in DWG who might very well stand up to Muhahahaha and Llama.

bpostal
2013-10-12, 05:33 PM
This should be an interesting match indeed, especially since DWG is strongly infantry focused. I really am not convinced by the whole "air dominance" thing when it comes to 24v24.
And even if it was true, there's a couple of very decent pilots in DWG who might very well stand up to Muhahahaha and Llama.

I've been seeing plenty of DWG in the air these last few days as well so I know they're practicing.

Davelantor
2013-10-12, 06:03 PM
Looking forward to our fight with 252, always a good fight and curious as to what kind of tactics they will deploy on the field.

CrimsonTemplar
2013-10-12, 09:04 PM
All I can say is good luck and may the best team win. Hopefully PTS will be stable, than it has been today.

Baptist
2013-10-13, 06:51 AM
I'll watch this, good luck 252 i'll be cheering you on, DWG are serious competitors so do NC proud and give them a good smacking!

JamesJolly
2013-10-13, 07:06 AM
Same here. I am looking forward to the match 252. may the better team win :)

I am worried about the PTS though. Hossin is the only continent available and chat and squads are not working

Shamrock
2013-10-13, 07:44 AM
Looking forward to watching this, may the best team win!

CrimsonTemplar
2013-10-13, 07:53 AM
Same here. I am looking forward to the match 252. may the better team win :)

I am worried about the PTS though. Hossin is the only continent available and chat and squads are not working

Worse than that. PTS is in haywire. UI not working half the time, missing weapons/cosmetics and only those who are on Hossin or in VR, have a slim chance of getting on. Others, my outfit included, have reported disconnects or crashing when trying to connect on PTS. Creating a new character might help but it's appears 50/50. One char I created got onto Hossin, the other crashed.

Not sure if PSU have their own server yet but if PTS is borked come 6pm BST, then there might be some problems. All I can say is fingers crossed and hopefully we'll see some action between 252 and DWG :D.

Calista
2013-10-13, 11:05 AM
Cancelled for today...

https://twitter.com/ps2commclash/status/389400540024541184

Hamma
2013-10-13, 11:33 AM
Yea sadly PTS is hosed. :|

CrimsonTemplar
2013-10-13, 07:51 PM
Yea sadly PTS is hosed. :|

Then must hose the devs in revenge for this obstinacy! :lol:


Ah well. Luckily though I managed to get onto PTS earlier. UI is still borked but I and my outfit could get on.