Lasher Question

[Ex70]

From the Weapon Info Page: The Lasher fires a concentrated energy 'orb' that effectively lashes out against soldiers or vehicles at close range. A target that is lashed receives minor damage, whereas a target that is directly impacted by the orb receives maximum damage.

If the energy orb comes in direct contact with an enemy soldier, would it keep going through him until it "ran out" of energy after a certain amount of time? Or if you hit someone directly does it stop?

Seems to me if it does stop, then when using the Lasher you would want to try and miss your target, assuming there are several enemies nearby.

[Alias]

Stops on impact. I've seen a pic of it hitting a Mosquito and exploding into a massive electrical storm looking thing. Was awesome. :D

[Chief-BOA]

Who cares its a Gimp weapon

[Nubi]

that opinion coming from someoen who's prejudice against the Vanu, of course

[Chief-BOA]

of course look at my sig

[Alias]

Yeah, that statement was about as accurate as the minigun at 500 yards. GG.
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|-| <-- Here's a chair, make use of it.

[Gobberlerra]

My thought, on the lasher, is that it works just like any area effect weapon in any game ( i.e rocket launchers) just it has a bigger area of effect. When it explodes the closer you are to the point of impact, the more damage you suffer.

[Chief-BOA]

i heard that it was just like an energy shotgun

[chaos1428]

whooops, dang EULA, will have to post this opinion later, sorry :mad:

[Alias]

It damages all targets while it passes them, not just when it hits a block of some sort. It can whiz by you and still "lash" out and do damage, which is why it's given the name "Lasher". Clever, huh?

[Zatrais]

Lasher, teh VS room clearing weapon... :)

[Destroyeron]

It's good if say, a lot of guys are lined up, shoot next to them and it will lash out to them and do damage, fire off a few rounds like that and hey, if there all afk or something you could kill them all!

*gulps* I'll be faaaar away from everyone else....

[Peacemaker]

Vanu weps are deadly but i think the problem with them is if you EVER shot a bright beam of light that went several hundred yards (or less) then your enemies are going to know exactly where you are/ were. Might as well put a big neon sign n your head that says I am Vanu rape me!!!!, well any ways that wouldnt be very good for the guy on the other end of the blast but it wouldnt be good for the guy who shot it in the first place.

[NeoTassadar]

Imagine a crossfire, there would be no escape!

[Chukk]

even for the vanu on the opposite sides






Chukk:sniper:

[Matuse]

Crossfire does not mean that the two sides of the cross stand opposite each other...that would be stupid.

[Hellsfire123]

The lasher is supposed to do alot of dmg for a direct hit. So choose if you want to hit alot alittle or alittle alot.

[Venoxile]

Supposedly, at the moment, all the vanu are complaining on the beta forums that the pulsar and the lasher are too weak. This information comes from some dumbass on sony's official ps forums on beta who didn't know what an NDA was. I mean thats what an NDA's for, to keep people from finding out that one of the empires is so much worse then the others at the moment. Probably because of that info, some idiots not realizing that it will be fixed will join another empire when it comes out.

For all of you who dont know, i'm not vanu, don't hurt me. *cowers (sp?) and yells nc nc!*

[Kyonye]

Originally posted by Chief-BOA
Who cares its a Gimp weapon

HAHAHA, you're funny. lasher is just as good as any other heavy assault weapon.

[Camping Carl]

Lasher = teh suck

It's useless outdoors cause its shots are easily dodged, but the NC shotgun and TR minigun are not. :p

[Kyonye]

they are more powerful though. thats why it is a short range weapon.

[Matuse]

If you want an open field weapon, get a bolt driver or a punisher.

The lasher is a close assault weapon, expecting it to perform outside of its range of design is silly.

[Camping Carl]

Exactly, it's one weapon spot filled for a gun that you'll only use in hallways were they can't dodge it. Which is why it = teh suck.

And doing more damage won't make up for missing it's target 90% of the time.

Although truthfully even the hallway thing is questionable. If you've seen the official trailer, you know what I mean.

[cell.nerve]

"Lasher, teh VS room clearing weapon... "

Wouldn't a room clearing weapon be something along the lines of gee idk.... A GREDNADE?

[OneManArmy]

you are all crazy!!! Shotgun for EVERY situation!!!! Even for sniping!!!


I am the 1337 shotgun sniper!!! pheer me!!!!

[The President]

Originally posted by Alias
Stops on impact. I've seen a pic of it hitting a Mosquito and exploding into a massive electrical storm looking thing. Was awesome. :D

You have a link to that pic?


-The President:sniper:

[Matuse]

Exactly, it's one weapon spot filled for a gun that you'll only use in hallways were they can't dodge it. Which is why it = teh suck.

I'm sorry, this is different from the jackhammer/fletchette...how? Oh, its not. Imagine that, one empire's close assault weapon is just as useless in the open field as another's. Time to start writing letters of protest.

Please, stop talking before you make yourself look worse than you already do.

[Phenom]

Sounds like a fun weapon, maybe someday ill get enough BEP to actually use it :D

[Zatrais]

Originally posted by cell.nerve
"Lasher, teh VS room clearing weapon... "

Wouldn't a room clearing weapon be something along the lines of gee idk.... A GREDNADE?

Grenades go boom on impact....

Lasher goes boom on impact, but whit a hell of a higher ROF than nades ;)

[cell.nerve]

Maybe this is just me, BUT THERE'S A TIMER ON THE NADES, and plasma nades explode into big balls of plasma acid crap that do tons of damage over time to everything but maxes and vehicles. So by the time that damage-over-time is done, you will of already launched another nade at them. And there is a grenade launcher on the common weapon the 'punisher' for rapid dispersal of grenades. But yes the lasher is good for close range fighting and that's about it. The little balls move like 2 mph so you can say fux it to any moving target somewhat far away.

"Hey bob...what's that moving at us?"
"well Jim, looks like some lasher balls"
"Think we should move?"
"Eh........*LONG PAUSE*...sure"
*Both jim and bob take a few steps to the left and watch the lasher balls miss them by several feet*
"Wew, that was a close one"
"Yeeeeep *sips beer*"

Ok thats basically what I've gotten out of using the lasher

[Zatrais]

Originally posted by cell.nerve
Maybe this is just me, BUT THERE'S A TIMER ON THE NADES, and plasma nades explode into big balls of plasma acid crap that do tons of damage over time to everything but maxes and vehicles. So by the time that damage-over-time is done, you will of already launched another nade at them. And there is a grenade launcher on the common weapon the 'punisher' for rapid dispersal of grenades. But yes the lasher is good for close range fighting and that's about it. The little balls move like 2 mph so you can say fux it to any moving target somewhat far away.

"Hey bob...what's that moving at us?"
"well Jim, looks like some lasher balls"
"Think we should move?"
"Eh........*LONG PAUSE*...sure"
*Both jim and bob take a few steps to the left and watch the lasher balls miss them by several feet*
"Wew, that was a close one"
"Yeeeeep *sips beer*"

Ok thats basically what I've gotten out of using the lasher

You can't carry as manny nades as lasher rounds... Lasher ROF is a hell of alott faster and you're exagurating the speed of them.

The thumper can distribute nades into a room yeah, but i doubt it'll have the clip size and ROF in heavier firefights.

As for the punisher, the reload time on the nade launcher is just horrible, 1 nade and reload.

[cell.nerve]

"You can't carry as manny nades as lasher rounds... Lasher ROF is a hell of alott faster and you're exagurating the speed of them."

Have you ever used the lasher? are you in beta? Cuz i know about 6 guys in my outfit that can back me up on how slow the lasher is. A MAX UNIT ON AUTORUN RUNS JUST AS FAST AS A LASHER ROUND NO &*&%%^&*( joke.

[Zarparchior]

Uh... well, other than it being a slow weapon - how useful is it in a squad? I mean, it "lashes" out at targets doesn't it? What if your squadmate is close enough to get zapped? If it really does lash out from the main orb (and the lash range is medium-short) then I can see this weapon being known as the grief gun.

Let's say you fire 3 shots in the general direction of teh enemeh squad. Of course, your squad is about to engage this hostile squad as well. You hit 2 enemy soldiers w/ the lashes (cuz it's slow and easy to dodge) and you hit 4 squadmates w/ lashes (cuz they have their back to you and are not expecting to get hit with it). While you don't get grief points in a squad, it is still hurting your overall effeciency by hurting your own team. I hope they'll allow a little leeway in this and NOT have the Lasher's lashes target friendlies...

And yes, I am worried about the Vanu's weapons being underpowered. I was worried about it since I heard they'd be using energy weapons. :ugh:

If there is one thing I've magically learned when playing games, it's that energy weapons are almost always over or underpowered. Not having played the game, I can't really say I know this at all, but the n00bs who broke the NDA (not a reliable source, I'll give you that) say it's not that hot of a weapon...

Oh well. Plenty of other weapons to use.

[Zatrais]

Originally posted by cell.nerve
"You can't carry as manny nades as lasher rounds... Lasher ROF is a hell of alott faster and you're exagurating the speed of them."

Have you ever used the lasher? are you in beta? Cuz i know about 6 guys in my outfit that can back me up on how slow the lasher is. A MAX UNIT ON AUTORUN RUNS JUST AS FAST AS A LASHER ROUND NO &*&%%^&*( joke.

Lets see, trust some guy whose screaming that he has 6 guys in his outfit or the speeds of the lasher rounds and MAX run speed in the official trailers....

I'll stick whit the trailers..

[cell.nerve]

Well if you would look at the trailors there is a specific one as to where you see a max taking off and a lasher been shot at it. The lasher bolts have a tough time keeping up with the flying max. And when you hit the little 'Q' button it enables the autorun mode for the MAXes so they run at like 10x their normal speed, which is still slower than most ground vehicles but its a decent pace. Now anyone with a semi-auto gun of any sort can hit it, the lancer, the pulsar, any of the bullet weaponry, but NOT the lasher. The lasher has the slowest moving projectile in the entire game and you can quote me on that because I have played all 3 factions.

Now don't get me wrong im not saying that the lasher isnt a goo weapon, im just saying that from a distance it isnt worth a crap. But in doors it with a combo of grenades will pretty much wipe out anything but a group of maxes or something.

[Deadlock]

im sure this over grown flashlight has its uses. every weapon does or otherwise they wouldnt be in the game. since it is a team based game im sure a squad of lashers firing at the generally same location could be very deadly indeed.

however, im not personally awwed by this idea of a gun. infact i hate all lazers, they're dumb trekie things imo. but thats why i went nc (thought about tr for a long time)

so i guess the point im tryin to make is to let the vs guys go with what they like and quite trying to make their weapon inferior. it can kill u just like all the others. if u really think it sucks, just dont ever use it. and kill anyone u see who has it, when u get the game, to prove ur point.

[Dyzan]

EULA prevents me from saying anything specific, but I'll be general...

Punisher, regardless of the wide variety of ammo it can utilize... sucks IMO.

End Transmission.

[Camping Carl]

Originally posted by Matuse
I'm sorry, this is different from the jackhammer/fletchette...how? Oh, its not. Imagine that, one empire's close assault weapon is just as useless in the open field as another's. Time to start writing letters of protest.

Please, stop talking before you make yourself look worse than you already do.

Uhh.. the difference is, miniguns, and jackhamers aren't useless in the open field. That's the whole reason I was saying lasher = teh suck.

Normally, If I don't even respond that means the person who flamed me had no idea what they were talking about, and I don't consider it worth my time. So usually I wouldn't have responded to your post, but here I made an exception to say this:

Please think before you flame.

[Matuse]

miniguns, and jackhamers aren't useless in the open field.

When did miniguns enter into this? The only non-vehicle minigun I'm aware of is the TR empire specific one. Regardless, it isn't the same thing as a shotgun. Not even close. Jackhammer isn't useless in the open field? I assume you are in beta that you can make that declaration. In which case, that is poor weapon design. The fault then isn't with the lasher being weak, it is with the jackhammer being too good. If you aren't in beta, then you are basically talking out of your ass with how effective any of the weapons in the game are. Informed supposition is one thing, but declarations are quite another.

Please think before you flame.

Odd, I didn't flame. I spoke the truth with a healthy dose of sarcasm. If you feel the truth is insulting, perhaps you need to look at yourself.

That's the whole reason I was saying lancer = teh suck.

I guess that is that short attention span in action...what the hell does the Lancer have to do with a thread about the Lasher? Try and keep up with the topic at hand please, if you can. <--- That is a flame, although lukewarm at best.

[Camping Carl]

Alright, I'll try to clear up the misconceptions here,

Forget the minigun and jackhammer for now if you don't see the conection. All I'm saying is the lasher can't hit anything outdoors, which limits its use to narrow hallways. Anything else, and you won't hit your target at all, because your target will simply move out of the way. That's a pretty lame weapon, in my opinion. Note the word opinion.

Just watch the official trailer here. (http://planetside.station.sony.com/media/PlanetSideTrailer.wmv)

I group the TR minigun, NC Jackhammer(shotgun), and VS lasher together because, to me, they seem to all be aimed torward close range combat. But I can't prove that, it's just a theory.

About the jackhammer being too good, I merely said it wasn't useless in the open, I didn't say it was good. I don't know how good the minigun is in the open, but I know it's useable.

I'm done with arguing about the lasher now, I've explained this as clearly as I can.

edit- Actually, if you want to continue the insults, just send me a private message.