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Coliostro
2002-12-05, 12:36 AM
In my opinion roleplaying is essential to making any kind of MMOgame work. Especially something like this. I've been seeing a lot of posts saying things like roleplaying is silly or roleplaying has no place in an FPS. I don't agree at all. In a normal FPS like a counter-strike, or Wolfenstein i would agree with that but on the kind of scale Planetside is going to be on it just won't work without at least a LITTLE roleplaying. If you're not in character why should you care which faction takes a certain base? Why should you follow orders from commanders leading an attack? Why play this game at all?

Doobz
2002-12-05, 12:40 AM
um, when u do any kind of communication in battle, u are roleplaying basically.
whenever u strategize u are also roleplaying.
but it doesnt need to be taken beyond that, no dramatizations or anything.

if i pay to play, i want to be able to talk to anybody about anything, even if its not in context, which it frequently isnt.

Coliostro
2002-12-05, 12:52 AM
You've hit upon exactly the point i'm trying to make. In game interactions where it concerns battles and things of that nature MUST be roleplayed. In this kind of game that's all that's necessary to be roleplaying. Most people are more afraid of the word than they are of the act itself. Roleplaying doesn't mean talking in thees and thous. To me roleplaying is simply not talking about things not game related in an open chat. That's all there is to it...doesn't seem that hard.


Colio

afex
2002-12-05, 01:22 AM
Originally posted by Coliostro
In game interactions where it concerns battles and things of that nature MUST be roleplayed.

no, they don't.

this is a video game.

Tobias
2002-12-05, 06:48 AM
Im gonna roleplay!

Camping Carl
2002-12-05, 08:06 AM
The main thing is to make sure that it doesn't take away from combat. It would suck if higher levels had to much of an advantage. As long as the devs don't put to much rpg elements in, a little roleplaying is fine.

m0rphiu5
2002-12-05, 08:14 AM
isnt that why they would use semi realistic style weapons, they expect us to use tank tactics from operation desert storm (which incidently would look cool if all tanks lined up goin through desert :)),

they expect snipers to use tactics out of "enemy at the gates" etc, thats role playing.... even if its only to a small degreee its still a nescesity.

Hamma
2002-12-05, 09:01 AM
Definition of an RPG:
A game in which players assume the roles of characters and act out fantastical adventures, the outcomes of which are partially determined by chance, as by the roll of dice.

this will never be that, but if people want to take a "role" and act it out. more power to them, me personally I will just play as myself :p

Marsman
2002-12-05, 09:16 AM
I think there is a distinct difference between role playing and being "in character". Certainly there is room in the game to assume the persona of a Vanu, NC, or TR soldier and play the character without actually role playing in an RPG sense.

Airlift
2002-12-05, 09:27 AM
Being in character is the only defining factor of roleplaying. All the character stats, levels and advancement schemes are simply gaming conventions that are often used in roleplaying games, but they are just as common in other game types.

Mold
2002-12-05, 09:32 AM
um, when u do any kind of communication in battle, u are roleplaying basically.
whenever u strategize u are also roleplaying.

in that case then isnt every game a roleplaying game?
Using your mind and communicating with your team to accomplish the objective of a game is not roleplaying.

In my opinion roleplaying is essential to making any kind of MMOgame work.
Actually i think one of the beuties of this game is that you can pretend to be Hashmir the Terran Republic Medic and still have fun playing with George from Texas whos playing a FPS game.
:cool:

Tobias
2002-12-05, 11:59 AM
Im gonna roleplay to the extent that I hate all TR, and I think the NC is missguided and Ignorant. The Vanu are brining a new age to the world, and once that wormwhole reopens, the multiverse.

Doobz
2002-12-05, 03:13 PM
tobias, u started roleplaying a loooooong time ago...:rolleyes:

Marsman
2002-12-05, 05:18 PM
:rofl: :love:

Lazare
2002-12-05, 05:50 PM
For my part i am happy, that the RPers take teh lead!!!

�io
2002-12-05, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Hamma
Definition of an RPG:
A game in which players assume the roles of characters and act out fantastical adventures, the outcomes of which are partially determined by chance, as by the roll of dice.


?!?!?!?!?!

Where the heck did you get that definition?

A RPG doesn't have to have dice or chance nor be fantastical adventures.

The definition of Role-Playing is exactly that, playing a role. Role-playing does NOT have anything to do with dice or chance, D&D yes but that's a fanstic medieval RPG not Role-playing itself. Role playing can range from D&D to simply acting out what would happen if 2 plumbers got together or even not so rated PG-13 stuff between you and your GF.

Role-Playing <> Nerd with dice. :)


As for RPing in PS i would love to but not many are into it. If i meet some peeps in game who play the part of a Lt from wherver and not some 20year old from New york then i might join-in. :)

Qanamil_Rafiki
2002-12-05, 10:51 PM
I recall the dev's saying that you can't talk to members of the other empires anyways, so you could only do so much if that's true.

Coliostro
2002-12-06, 02:40 AM
No, i wouldn't think you could talk with members of opposite factions...why talk when you can shoot?:D I'm thinking more about roleplaying with team mates. I don't like the word roleplaying. People have a tendency to assume nerdiness or DandD whenever that word comes up (i know this because i used to be one of the people that made that assumption)

Coliostro

m0rphiu5
2002-12-06, 03:11 AM
yeah some people are seriously misguided, D&D isnt the only rpg, what about final fantasy, no dice there....

and i also have made that assumption before...... i also have played D&D (ahhhh curse the thought) and can honestly say its only as nerdy as the people playin it.... players with imagination are quite amussing (for instance i lit a donkey on fire and made him run into a huge orc, all on the spur of the moment)

Airlift
2002-12-06, 10:36 AM
Planetside has always reminded me of Renegade Legion. Now there was a good roleplaying game.

Tobias
2002-12-06, 11:06 AM
I play AD&D (3e now, used to be 2e but we changed) and some of the whitewolf games, and very few of us are nerdy. Haters. Roleplaying power. On a note if you wanna get wierd go find some Larpers.

Ravon Dark
2002-12-06, 12:37 PM
Hey Lay off the larping. ;) I'm a larper thank you, I do Vampire: The Masquerade. We all kick a** thank you and more then 3/4 of us are goths, not nerds, not geeks, goths. larping is a blast. ;)

afex
2002-12-06, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Tobias
I play AD&D (3e now, used to be 2e but we changed) and some of the whitewolf games, and very few of us are nerdy. Haters. Roleplaying power. On a note if you wanna get wierd go find some Larpers.

you are in nerd denial

Airlift
2002-12-06, 04:16 PM
... What's your excuse for haunting forums for a computer game that isn't even in closed public beta yet? ;)

afex
2002-12-06, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Airlift
... What's your excuse for haunting forums for a computer game that isn't even in closed public beta yet? ;)

who said i was in denial? :D

Unregistered
2002-12-06, 04:38 PM
I don't know about Role Playing. I'm not sure I want to have to say "Shazboteth" instead of vgs.

�io
2002-12-06, 04:48 PM
This is another stereotype, RPing does not = speaking in "thou"s and "thee"s. :)

Airlift
2002-12-06, 04:53 PM
who said i was in denial?

I'll drink to that. http://orbitalstrike.com/images/emote/beeremote.gif

Madfish
2002-12-06, 07:38 PM
Surely if we're roleplaying we wouldn't be charging the enemy gates getting riddled by bullets.

Who the hell wants to go through that painful death thing for a base you'll loose in a few hours?

Mtx
2002-12-06, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by Unregistered
I don't know about Role Playing. I'm not sure I want to have to say "Shazboteth" instead of vgs.

"Lighting! lightning! lightning! ... death!"

Sound familur?

You better remember!!!! :mad:

Tobias
2002-12-07, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Ravon Dark
Hey Lay off the larping. ;) I'm a larper thank you, I do Vampire: The Masquerade. We all kick a** thank you and more then 3/4 of us are goths, not nerds, not geeks, goths. larping is a blast. ;)

I dont larp, but as i said i play white wolf games (we play D&D mosta the time, but sometimes we play Whitewolf) and the story teller lets us, uh, combine them(mage, vampire, and werewolf, the werewolf's first character was a hunter, he always in D&D plays a paladin, and he wanted a paladin like character, needless to say the Vamps killed him, so now he plays a werewolf.) We have 2 vampires (a Ventrue and a Tremere), a werewolf, and me, a mage, Im a hollowed one because Necromancers cool, and blood is an easy focus to get. Also fun to roleplay. Life and prime all the way. But, just so you know Mages are cooler then Vamps, in my humble opinion. And there is nothing wrong with Larping, its just in my experiance most Larpers are wieeeeeeerd, be they goth/raver/nerd/geek/strange man who collects dead kittens. Some of them are oks though. But might i ask a question, not being a larper myself, how the hell do you play out most of the diciplines, like Thalmaturgy(sp?) or, uh, drinking the blood of your victems? (unless your all bankers, then i guess thats not a problem)


on a note, there is this Venture site with a good guide on how to be a goth, its funny, will try and find it.


A few things: Tecno music sucks. 80's rock is cool. So are the Doors. Blue Oyster Cult is the best group ever, and if you disagree, your wrong.

Doobz
2002-12-07, 05:33 PM
whats larping?

Zarparchior
2002-12-07, 07:05 PM
I'm not sure, but I can guess...

As for RPing and PnP (Pen and Paper, for you un-nerds ;)) games, they r0x0r the hous0r. Only in AD&D can you be DMing and have your players do everything but you wanted them to do. :D

For example, one of the times I DM'd (Dungeon Master, meaning I ruled the world :cool2: ) I had an easy pit trap set up that they fell into. It could have been avoided, but so can a lot of things in D&D. Anyway, they had just recently collected a rope on a display case (they were robbing some extremely unfortunate rich tyrant's mansion) when they had fallen in. Had they tried to use the rope, they would have found it was a Rope of Climbing. But no. They ended up standing on each other's shoulders with the dwarf on the bottom... After reaching the top, then one of them threw up the rope so that the rest of them could climb out - only to realize the rope's true nature at that time. Ironic, funny, and typical. :p

As for this game, people who play will be roleplaying anyway. "Let's go kill some Vanu SCUM!" translates into "Let's go kill some Vanu SCUM!" Some people will submerge into the RPing a little more than others though. :)

Jinxmasta
2002-12-07, 07:40 PM
Well I guess I'm the only non-geek here that actually knows more than the controls for a video game!

Ravon Dark
2002-12-08, 02:13 AM
Well I guess I'm the only non-geek here that actually knows more than the controls for a video game!

Nope, sorry.. I'm not a geek either and I know far more then controls about video games. Go fly around a bit in Cessna's and stuff, then you can talk. ;) Next.. larping.. Ok, how that works for blood is it's not literally acted out, such as actually drinking, but everything else up to and after can and sometimes will be. As for Thaumatergy and stuff, it's all done verbally unless they have something set up before hand.