View Full Version : The NEXT GEN MMOFPS, what do you want to see?
MrVicchio
2003-04-09, 10:22 AM
If PS comes off as CLEANLY and as welll as well all believe, and the indications are it will... what would you like to see as the basis of the NEXT MMOFPS style game?
Me, I think the Tom Clancy book "Red Storm Rising" would be the PERFECT setting for an MMOFPS.
OneManArmy
2003-04-09, 10:35 AM
I'd like to see something along the lines of a counter-strike style one. Modern weapons, Navy SEALS, SAS... etc.. etc...
Although I don't think you could really pull off any kind of story because how would you explain the death/respawn thing?
Zatrais
2003-04-09, 11:05 AM
Vietnam.
Deformable landscape
More non combat orientations, maybee a scientist kinda thing... research new weapons.
Timed abilities, artillery, napalm etc for commaders
And a war thats winable.... but resests when a side has won :)
MrVulcan
2003-04-09, 11:05 AM
a real KA stragity game that is mmo!!!
could you see a starcraft like game that is being played on a very very huge map with 10000s of people????
now that could be sweet!
Vis Armata
2003-04-09, 11:22 AM
I could see Red Storm Rising as a setting for the game, but pity the poor people who chose to fight with Soviet equipment...
Sputty
2003-04-09, 11:36 AM
I'd like to see something like Civ 3, but that allows people to take personal command of the armies. City states would be the most noticeable part and clans would make countries
Anam Nantom
2003-04-09, 11:37 AM
I'd like to see something with a very large scope. I'd like to see NPC's in a city. Some selling hotdogs on the side street, some walking to thier executive high rise for work. Also, you could get in a car and travel to to the countryside.. just to look at cows. There you could find NPC farmers, or people camping in the woods.. etc.
In this game the players could do anything the NPC's were doing.. ie, live a normal life.. OR they could be law enforcement, thugs on the street, members of a vigalante super-secret ninja group :)... etc..
As far as combat, have it to where this can be done any time, anywhere, with repercussions. One COULD shoot innocent bystanders.. but if an NPC spotted you, you'd be hunted down by players on law enforcement, or NPC law enforcement.
I know, this may sound kind of open ended, not so focused, but if these elements were used, it'd be fun
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Another idea of mine would be a realistic wildlife simulation. You could pick a type of animal and try and survive in your natural habitat.. as a wolf, you'd hunt rabbits, as a rabbit you'd hunt plantlife.. :). You could have all the senses that this animal is supposed to have, you could smell danger from miles away.. and perhaps have player that are hunters.. they'd have thier own goals. :)
Just something different, ehhe.
Doobz
2003-04-09, 04:13 PM
WWII, 50,000 players to a server, deformable landscape, as real as it can get
lots of vehilces, much more realistic than BF vehicles, but not simulator realistic, something accessible to players yet inclusive of the real war environment
scheduled events like airdrops over certain cities and targets. high up commanders are able to order new ships and planes to be built in certain areas. this is how vehicle spawning will be handled. some vehicles will require a higher rank than others
there will be scheduled events like AI piloted airdrops, beach landings and bombing raids
blood. i'm want a game that's as atmospheric and realistic as possible, and in WWII there was lots of blood. MOH gave some lame ass excuse saying they wore too much clothing for there to be much blood. bullshit, there was blood in WWII, so there will be in the game, not an excessive amount, just a realistic amount of blood.
firefights will be more prolonged and strategy involving experiences, not like these lighting quick fights where one side charges the other we seem to be seeing in games, but like you see in the movies, where most bullets miss there mark.
AI controlled artillery batteries that you can call on if it's available and you have the rank to do so. you can also man the artillery and control it manually if you want to. weather that actually has an effect on gameplay. for example, you wouldn't be able to luanch a bombing raid into the middle of a storm or launch landing craft in the middle of raging sees because they would capsize.
Kickass.
Terik
2003-04-09, 04:17 PM
The problem with all of this is, well, we can't really have bases or anything, if they make everything historically correct we'll be fighting over small ass bunkers with no base assets gens or anything. This is what really drove me away from BF1942 and kept me playing Tribes 2. But then, it's just an opinion.
ABRAXAAS
2003-04-09, 04:19 PM
AND THE PAST SUXXORS only make games about the future, who gives a shit about ww2. sure as hell wouldnt want to play a simulation of it .
Doobz
2003-04-09, 04:20 PM
no, i'm imagining a game on the scale where you're fighting for cities and land, not small as bunkers. and yes there would be bases, like airfields and amor bases. you would strategically strike these to hamper their ability to spawn aircraft at the airfield, ships in harbours, and armor in armor bases
Doobz
2003-04-09, 04:22 PM
uhhh.... lots of ppl give a shit about WWII, it's a fascinating war, the first real, large scale modern day war, clearly defined sides without all the politically correct bullshit they have now. the problem with doing a game like that in moder day is that all modern day conflicts are limited to little regions fighting militia and stuff. WWII lets you run all over Europe and the Pacific.
WWII has great subject matter for games
Terik
2003-04-09, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by ABRAXAAS
AND THE PAST SUXXORS only make games about the future, who gives a shit about ww2. sure as hell wouldnt want to play a simulation of it .
Not flaming here but many people gave there lives in that war, I don't think it's a very good gesture to speak of it that way.
BeerJedi
2003-04-09, 04:24 PM
hmmm... since we're talkin' MMOFPS... WWII seems the big flavor over the last year or two.
I like the idea of "Red Storm Rising." But in this case, the developers would vamp the "Russian" Military hardware to be complaciant with US hardware(so no lopsided tech advantag)
I wouldn't mind a C&C Generals theme MMOFPS. The equipment is there, the resource thought process is there, and then give "hi-ranking" generals the ability to purchase Mobile Command Vehicles to start new bases would allow a nice cross of FPS and RTS.
Not to mention, the buildings would be completely destroyable.
Battles would not only focus on land territory, but also resource depots and bases being constructed by players. No NPCs to entertact with. Can create AI controlled gun turrets or manual override and man them yourself.
You've got aircraft, land vehicles. etc.
Granted they tried in Renegade (such a let down to me) but in MMOFPS, they have more leverage to do things, more room to work. and you don't need superweapons (granted if you do have super weaps, battling to destroy those buildings would be huge!).
just a thought, but i think PS is a perfect jump point into MMOFPS
Prowler
2003-04-09, 04:31 PM
Ya a MMO on a WW may be interesting....
ABRAXAAS
2003-04-09, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Terik
Not flaming here but many people gave there lives in that war, I don't think it's a very good gesture to speak of it that way.
Ah shut up , the past is the past its there for a reason, and yes lots of people gave there lives I have family members or had ,that gave there lives . But once again i say who gives a shit, the only reason you think you care about it is that your told your supposed to care. its like the whole remeberance day thing ,were almost out of vetrans and once the last of them dies rememberence day should be scrapped , we cant keep it going forever we need to replace it with something more current .
BeerJedi
2003-04-09, 04:43 PM
The funny thing about the past... it has a tendency to repeat itself unless one learns from it. The past is the past as it has been so eloquently stated, but the past can teach us of our passions or weaknesses. Of villany, heroism, deceit and compassion.
Of what people do to strive for greatness or vileness. Granted i'm being a little too poetic, but it can be argued that by ignoring the past you jeapordize (sp) the future. Its just one opinion. Take it as you like.
Spider
2003-04-09, 04:43 PM
But once again i say who gives a shit, the only reason you think you care about it is that your told your supposed to care.
So true :brow:
Ouroboros
2003-04-09, 04:52 PM
MMOFPS based on the Starcraft world.
Happy lil Elf
2003-04-09, 05:06 PM
I second a C&C MMOFPS, just for the love of god don't let Westwood try to make it. Renegades was horrible mulitplayer, not because of the concept, GUI or gameplay but rather because Westwood managed to prove they can't design a mulitplayer internet game that runs on the net worth a shit.
I hear they got most of the bugs fixed in patches later on but trying to play multiplayer on release was like trying to walk around while up to your neck in molasis, molasis that would drag you back and forth across the level :p
Terik
2003-04-09, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by ABRAXAAS
Ah shut up , the past is the past its there for a reason, and yes lots of people gave there lives I have family members or had ,that gave there lives . But once again i say who gives a shit, the only reason you think you care about it is that your told your supposed to care. its like the whole remeberance day thing ,were almost out of vetrans and once the last of them dies rememberence day should be scrapped , we cant keep it going forever we need to replace it with something more current .
I'm not saying WW2 is holy or anything. I'm saying that you shouldn't just forget everything that happened beforehand. If we did the world would be much different, instead of having a thriving economy and social structure (well, for the most part) we'd probably still be goverened by the fuedal system or even worse. :p
Edit: I wasn't told to care either just to let you know, all my knowledge of WW2 is from the internet and books. When I saw all those corpses and men who were going to die scattered around the battlefield I felt sympathy. Not becuase somone told me to feel sympathy, but becuase I wanted to feel sympathy, so don't tell me I care becuase somone told me to care. I care becuase I feel like caring.
OneManArmy
2003-04-09, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by ABRAXAAS
Ah shut up , the past is the past its there for a reason, and yes lots of people gave there lives I have family members or had ,that gave there lives . But once again i say who gives a shit, the only reason you think you care about it is that your told your supposed to care. its like the whole remeberance day thing ,were almost out of vetrans and once the last of them dies rememberence day should be scrapped , we cant keep it going forever we need to replace it with something more current .
No you shut up. You're doing the same thing. You're telling him how he should feel. Did you even stop and think that people make up thier own minds? oh but I guess not, so you must be guilty of same thing.
No one ever told me to care but I do, Hell there's a lot of things I'm told to care about or not, but I make my own god damned decisions...
oh and I third that C&C MMOFPS.
Sputty
2003-04-09, 05:19 PM
Bah, WWIIonline was gay..
Hamma
2003-04-09, 05:24 PM
Stop teh h8 or ban
ABRAXAAS
2003-04-09, 05:34 PM
ah trollings fun , and I had to its been so long :D
NeoDrgnMech
2003-04-09, 05:39 PM
A C&C Generals based one would be cool, but it would kinda be hard to balance the GLA. No aircraft, and they have pick-up trucks and odd stuff like that for vehicles. They also have some goofy infantry, too. Imagine how awesome it would be to stomp around in your bad-ass tractor, or to run up to the enemy and blowing yourself up. :lol:
But still, if they could pull it off, it would be pretty neat. :brow:
OneManArmy
2003-04-09, 05:42 PM
Actually I change my vote. I want a StarCraft style MMOFPS or something similar.
Spider
2003-04-09, 05:58 PM
Starcraft all the way :brow:
RandoMTerroR
2003-04-09, 05:59 PM
Stop teh h8 or ban
GG hamma :D
Stop the violence, or we will kick yo azz!
Ohh back to the point...
Two suggestions...
First: DUNE!!!
Dammit i wanna be atriedes man... that would be awesome... uve got the ornitihopter and shit, and you would have to guard harvesting viechles and such :D, well mostly it would be like PS of casue...
Second: Stop thinking human... Think alternate reality...
I Want 3 non human races, all with their traits and abilitys... all pretty sofisticated, with laser guns, maybe u can make their technology uneachel, so one race is less intelligent, but has other kinds of weapons and such things... all would be possible, since it is out of this world... U could even have different planets to figth on...
MrVulcan
2003-04-09, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by OneManArmy
Actually I change my vote. I want a StarCraft style MMOFPS or something similar.
ya, but it needs to be a starcraft style MMORTSFPS
so it has fps and rts elements (like WC3, but with you as the hero, or somehting, but for starcraft)
OneManArmy
2003-04-09, 06:10 PM
:stupid: :drools:
Lexington_Steele
2003-04-09, 07:17 PM
I want a super intergalactic space war game with three key elements:
A Planetside like FPS element where you battle on planets for controll of those planets.
A homeworld like RTS element where you collect recources from controlled planets, build capital ships, and give the capital ships general orders.
and
A space combat simulator where you are a fighter or bomber pilot and can take part in space battles. (in addition you could be a gunner on a particular capital ship)
Doobz
2003-04-09, 08:59 PM
hey, Lex, there's a non MMO game that kinda comes close to what you are describing, minus the RTS elements if you wanna check it out.
go to gamespot and look up Breed, it looks promising
Squeeky
2003-04-09, 10:15 PM
I'd like to see a MMOFPS game where your 'clan' is a police department, and you go out and fight crime, :cool:
Lexington_Steele
2003-04-09, 10:54 PM
Maybe MMO GTA?
Maybe not.
Headrattle
2003-04-09, 11:17 PM
How about the logical conclusion of Planetside. Trying to capture bases, except there is a fight in space as well. You can call down Air/space fighters to give you support, The battleships would be fighting with other battleships for space near a ground battle in order for the transports to send drop pods and supplies to the surface and help out there. Tanks and powersuits and perhaps Mecha on the ground, fighters in the air, Ships and to a lesser extent fighters in the space around it.
Kind of a Battlefield 2942
MrVicchio
2003-04-10, 03:15 AM
I thnk the Star Trek Universe, would friggen awesome, but... how do you pull it off?
Hamma
2003-04-10, 08:59 AM
All star trek games fail :(
Lexington_Steele
2003-04-10, 09:23 AM
All star trek games fail :)
MrVulcan
2003-04-10, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Hamma
All star trek games fail :(
I dont know about that, Armada 1&2 and SFC series did ok (there were like 5 SFCs made, so they had to have sold well enough :lol: ) Elite Force sold enough to get an expansion and another one that will come out soon too... But then, there have been 900 failures for every semi-seller, though you must admit that a lot of that was also due to very very bad games, look at ST:new worlds (no multi) hidden evil, or the horrid DS9: dominion wars (it looked soo good though!).
but ya, so many people are just scared from trek titles that they wont even look at them, just say, oh thats trek, so its junk. It is too bad, there are so many possibilities in the trek universe. It is one of the largest universes ever made, it is a shame that people stereotype it so much.
simba
2003-04-13, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by ABRAXAAS
AND THE PAST SUXXORS only make games about the future, who gives a shit about ww2. sure as hell wouldnt want to play a simulation of it .
yes no1 cares about the past, thats why no1 bought BF, bcoz no1 cared....
Just bcoz u h8 WWII games doesent mean every1 h8s them.
ok?
simba
2003-04-13, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Doobz
WWII, 50,000 players to a server, deformable landscape, as real as it can get
lots of vehilces, much more realistic than BF vehicles, but not simulator realistic, something accessible to players yet inclusive of the real war environment
scheduled events like airdrops over certain cities and targets. high up commanders are able to order new ships and planes to be built in certain areas. this is how vehicle spawning will be handled. some vehicles will require a higher rank than others
there will be scheduled events like AI piloted airdrops, beach landings and bombing raids
blood. i'm want a game that's as atmospheric and realistic as possible, and in WWII there was lots of blood. MOH gave some lame ass excuse saying they wore too much clothing for there to be much blood. bullshit, there was blood in WWII, so there will be in the game, not an excessive amount, just a realistic amount of blood.
firefights will be more prolonged and strategy involving experiences, not like these lighting quick fights where one side charges the other we seem to be seeing in games, but like you see in the movies, where most bullets miss there mark.
AI controlled artillery batteries that you can call on if it's available and you have the rank to do so. you can also man the artillery and control it manually if you want to. weather that actually has an effect on gameplay. for example, you wouldn't be able to luanch a bombing raid into the middle of a storm or launch landing craft in the middle of raging sees because they would capsize.
Kickass.
that would b sooooooo frreaking AWESOME! With countries that owns different ammounts of land, that other countries could capture.
Also some pieces of land is worth more than others.
Like gold mines and stuff that u could mine and sell 2 other countries so u could produce more and better weapons and vehicles 4 ur country.
Also while u play the country ur playing 4 could develop more and better weapons and vehicles 4 ur country, u could also sell thoose vehicles/weapons.
Allong with wot doobz said this game would b wot I would love 4 a mmofps.
A Starcraft MMOFPS would be a surefire hit. They just have to make it first.
Lonehunter
2003-04-13, 05:56 PM
Anything with an extremely large scale would be great. A WWII theme would be cool. A neat idea would be to start a fiction WWIII that takes place in the future. Or something like PS but with sea and space battles included.
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