Thoughts On Darklight Vision

[Jinxmasta]

What do you think about darklight vision? I think it could make stealths near useless unless done right. I'm hoping that when it's turned on, the user will have horrible normal vision but can still see the stealths. When I say horrible, I don't mean bad, I mean horrible. The reason being that almost everyone will be using these because they are scared of stealths. If everyone uses these and there is no major downside to using them, stealths will become useless! So what do you think about darklight vision?

[Tobias]

Im gonna have one but only turn it on if something i cant see starts shooting me. But even then I am not sure if I want DL or secound wind.

[Hamma]

If I remember, dave explained it decreases how far you can see and makes it difficult to see normally. :)

[quiet]

Darklight Vision
Greatly reduces your normal visibility while simultaneously shifting your perceptions to allow you to see cloaked enemies in an area around you.
. . . .
I could never figure out why it would make you less visible . :confused:
"it decreases how far you can see and makes it difficult to see normally"
Now I understand.:cool2:

[Hamma]

:thumbsup:

[Warborn]

It's fair, IMHO. And I don't think everyone will have it. Personally, I wouldn't be worried about Stealthers. I mean, honestly, why be worried? They won't pack a lot of firepower, and once they attack you'll know more or less where they are. It'll be unlikely for one to be able to kill you one-on-one unless you are having a bad day, and/or wearing crap armor and using a garbage weapon.

Also, if you're out in the wilderness, there's virtually no chance you'll get attacked by a Stealther. Your only real worry would be when you're defending an installation. Now, I know what you're thinking... that's where Darklight will screw you. And, you know, I agree. If you, as one guy with a Stealth suit and a non-rifle weapon and knife goes into a base guarded by more than one enemy, you should expect to die, Darklight or not. So how do you counter this? Tactics and coordination. Use a team of Stealthers. Overwhelm the enemies. Surprise is your weapon, not brute force. If you can take them on at least 2 to 1, your chances of success are much higher.

[Airlift]

Every time I see a post like this it tickles. The scale of the game is what will make stealth useful, not an overpowered stealth capability. Everything in the game needs a very bad weakness that can be exploited under the proper circumstances, stealth included. The same way that a Galaxy will remain useful despite being an big slow target and the sniper remains useful despite being poor against a hardened target, the stealth will be useful despite being easily spotted with darklight and/or sensors.

Use your skills well and you will succeed. Use them poorly and your corpse will be punted across the battlefield. As it should be.

[afex]

i just want to know if going stealth is an on/off thing, or does it sap from some energy source (which runs out over time and must regen)

hopefully its just an on/off type deal. otherwise i think stealths wont be too useful if you have to uncloak-recloak all the time.

[Incompetent]

Last i heard, its always on. Always

[Unregistered]

A stealth on a stealth buggy will be an important point man for any sizeable assualt squad. Let's say that we have 4 tanks, and a couple of Minivans on our way to assualt an enemy base. If we had a stealther upfron scouting for us we would have a better chance at flanking the enemy, and taking the base.

This game will put more real life sort of tatics into use then anything we have ever played before.

[Hamma]

I was under the impression its always on.. but there was a time I saw a guy cloaking walking out of his buggy. He stopped up against a wall and went visible.. then I unloaded on him..

So to be honest, Im not sure what the deal is with it. ;)

[Unregistered]

I hate you.

[Hamma]

no :love:? :(

[Incompetent]

none, only :mad: and jelousy.

[Unregistered]

I :love: to h8 you?

Does that work?

:D

(I'm just jelous)

[Tobias]

Oks I will tell you. The stealth suit is not always on, you can only cloak when not on/in a vehicle. (other then the wraith). There is no limit to how long you can cloak. 24/7 if you want. Just fyi. You can turn it off and on too. Team mates can see you when your cloaked because your name will still be green and floating above your head =p (They cant see your body though, just the name)

[afex]

i find it funny that hamma is unsure yet tobias knows all. :rolleyes:

[Airlift]

Tobias is Smedley :rolleyes: :D

[Jinxmasta]

Yea I was guessing it would be like Tobias said but I didn't know that's how it was. Just hoping and guessing...

[KoldFusion]

Remember that in the dev interview part 3 that something was said about how invisible you are is directly related to how fast you are moving (unless i read it wrong). Other than that I do not feel that stealths will be useless. They were never intended to be killers.... more like scouts and to some degree speical ops missions and sabatoge. The tatics in this game will be mind boggling

[afex]

yeah i've heard that you could have a stealth person standing right in front of you, and as long as they dont move, you wouldn't see a thing.

[Zarparchior]

What if the person is just moving his feet very slowly? Does that uncloak him?

What if he needs to go the bathroom? Will he be able to unzip himself and take a quick leak without uncloaking himself?

:p

[KoldFusion]

What I was saying is there is a different degrees of stealth is seems... for example... if your standing still you see nothing... if you are run you are still invisible but there some sort of visual distortion that an observant player may pick up.... I be wrong on this whole thing.

[Warborn]

No, you're probably right. Similar to how Predator cloak from the Aliens vs Predator games work, I imagine.

[SandTrout]

DLV will likely be used by 1 person per squad idealy. This person will most likely be useing a short ranged, powerfull weapon. Chaingun or Jackhammer seem like they would be popular.

I think they saw the flaw in DAoC's assassins(compleatly invisible) so they added DLV and the movement modifier to force them to be scouts/sabateurs or have to ambush with their melee weapon.

DLV will probably be used by many stealthers as well to catch the enemy. Another popular Implant with stealthers will be Melee Enhancer(double knife damage).

This, however, still makes stealth seem kind of lame. Something to consider would be duel knife slots for the Stealth for Duel wielding. Doesn't seem to unbalanced because it IS melee and they have wait for the enemy to get to them to they can have the element of suprise.

[�io]

Or another cool option would be a Disarm cert. Using a special knife maneuver you do normal knife damage but disarm the enemies current weapon and he would have to either pick it up or switch. :)

[Hamma]

When you run everything distorts.. kinda looks like your looking through water.

Cool effect ;)

[Zumthor]

Its a fuzzy view like when you put on the "one ring of power" from LOTR!

[Jinxmasta]

If I decide on making a small outfit that is mainly focused on stealth, sabotage, and infiltration I won't use the Darklight for the simple fact that I can see their green names over their heads :p