Dudes need to seriously learn...

[Lethe]

...now to combine your threads. Ive never seen a board move more rapidly and thats because theres about 50 thread with the same exact purpose. Instead of one thread for mass replying there are about 50 "NDA lifted!!!" threads or 30 "Heres a question" threads, theres another common one but I forgot it. You should have 1 NDA lifted thread where you can all post whatever you wanna post so the damn board doesnt scroll a page a day. I posted something, checked page the next day and it was on page 3....jeez. Need to concentrate your thoughts and check if someone already posted something of your topic :)

[Duffman]

no. your dumb

[Cyanide]

Maybe it moves fast because there are a lot of people on the board. Ever think of that?

[MilitantB0B]

Pretty unorginized, yeah. But it works. Besides, if we combined em you would have to deal with 50 different "Why are adims messing up my threads?!?!" threads. My $0.02: If it aint broke, don't fix it.

[Civilian]

Yes, there are alot of threads with the same topic, but is posting a thread pointing this out in the Game Discussion forum productive? Some people haven't taken the time to read the other posts before they post duplicate topics, so not only will they not read your post, but you've posted it in the wrong forum and added to the clutter.

[Lethe]

Second, as these those replies show, you guys need to start acting like a community and stop flaming everyone that suggests something. "No. Your dumb" is not a reply, its a moronic comment. The game will go nowhere if the community sucks ass. JG has a great community, we're all friends and dont go around flaming eachother for no reason. No ones gonna play this game if the community is a bunch of assholes.

Cyanide: Yes there are alot of people on, but those poeple shouldnt EACH be posting a thread on the same topic, they should be replying to one topic, therefore you would have the ease of not having to check through 50000 threads to find the one you wanna reply to, you could just check that one thread.

Militant: See above.

I beta tested JG and have been around it for 3 years, its lasted that long because the community is outstanding. If you guys hop on eachother sback everytime someone suggests something, no matter how great the game is, it will go nowhere. Would you rather play a great game with a bunch of assholes or play a decent game with a group of close friends?

[Euroclydon]

Heh. Somebody's having anxiety attacks because their beta CD hasn't arrived yet... ;)

heh, just messing Apoc. But really, this community is much bigger than JumpGate's, and something pretty big is happening right now (open beta) and with the NDA being lifted, there's a lot to talk about.

Also, I can't see this game thriving or disolving because of a strong or weak community. It's too big to get personal except on the outfit level. It'll never have the "closeness" of a small game like JG. Can't have it all in one game you know. :)

[MilitantB0B]

Originally posted by Lethe
I beta tested JG and have been around it for 3 years, its lasted that long because the community is outstanding. If you guys hop on eachother sback everytime someone suggests something, no matter how great the game is, it will go nowhere. Would you rather play a great game with a bunch of assholes or play a decent game with a group of close friends?
*Clears His Throat*
I wasn't aware I was jumping on anyones back, I was merely offering up my opinion. I have been around these forums for a little while and I have to say, these people are far from "assholes".

On a more on topic note. The reason it is the way it is is because we are all human. In a crowded group of people (as this board is) when you are trying to say something to be heard you don't always obey what is the most socialy pleasant thing to do. In my opinion, these forums do move very fast do to the amount of reposts, but hey, I can deal with it (wich is good because there is absolutely nothing I can do about it). I don't post threads that have been covered before if I can help it but I do sometimes, it is to hard not to. But, like I said to begin with, just my $0.02

[Lethe]

Originally posted by MilitantB0B
*Clears His Throat*
I wasn't aware I was jumping on anyones back, I was merely offering up my opinion. I have been around these forums for a little while and I have to say, these people are far from "assholes".

On a more on topic note. The reason it is the way it is is because we are all human. In a crowded group of people (as this board is) when you are trying to say something to be heard you don't always obey what is the most socialy pleasant thing to do. In my opinion, these forums do move very fast do to the amount of reposts, but hey, I can deal with it (wich is good because there is absolutely nothing I can do about it). I don't post threads that have been covered before if I can help it but I do sometimes, it is to hard not to. But, like I said to begin with, just my $0.02

You actually offered insight, I was referring to the 2 monkeys before you that just retorted with something moronic instead of saying something constructive.

[MilitantB0B]

Oh, ok. Yeah that wasn't just amazing netiquette. :D

[Cyanide]

I don't see any more duplicate topics on this forum than there are on any other forums that are this busy. People don't want to search back 2 pages to see if it's already been discussed.

Besides, if nobody started new topics all the threads would be insanely long with outdated stuff at the begining and it would be a pain to wade through the whole thread. I personally don't like reading 5+ page threads.

[Lethe]

Originally posted by Euroclydon
Heh. Somebody's having anxiety attacks because their beta CD hasn't arrived yet... ;)

heh, just messing Apoc. But really, this community is much bigger than JumpGate's, and something pretty big is happening right now (open beta) and with the NDA being lifted, there's a lot to talk about.

Also, I can't see this game thriving or disolving because of a strong or weak community. It's too big to get personal except on the outfit level. It'll never have the "closeness" of a small game like JG. Can't have it all in one game you know. :)

No, after seeing this shit Im not doubting very much that I will break the damn CD when it comes.

Just because the community is big doesnt mean you cant have a shread of common sense amongst them, it doesnt have to be an angry mob situation.

I can see that man. With the way these people are acting its already turned me away and during retail if the boards stay like this, the people that actually check out games before they buy them will check out this site, look at the forums and think exactly what Im thinking right now. It does happen, and often. Plus word of mouth travels fast, theres alot of people I told about this beta and how great it was gonna be, on Monday at school theyre gonna hear nothing but bad things from me, which means, since Im there only source, PS just lost about 15 more people, now if there are 15 people like me, and they do they same thing PS just lost 225 people......do that a couple of times and you have a big potential customer base down the drain.

[Lethe]

Originally posted by Cyanide
I don't see any more duplicate topics on this forum than there are on any other forums that are this busy. People don't want to search back 2 pages to see if it's already been discussed.

Besides, if nobody started new topics all the threads would be insanely long with outdated stuff at the begining and it would be a pain to wade through the whole thread. I personally don't like reading 5+ page threads.

If there was one thread you wouldnt be searching back 2 pages to see if its been discussed. Also, with your later statements, if you kept on top of that one thread like you keep on top of the boards you wouldnt be scrolling the 5 pages everytime, theres a handy little button on the left side of the thread that takes you directly to the newest post, there ya go. All Im saying it is would eliminate the insane amount of board clutter here, and would provide a common ground for everyone to get there Qs and As.

[MilitantB0B]

Now wait just a minute! Just because you have a problem with a fan site why would you tell your freinds bad things about the game? The game is still gonna be fun as hell even if this forum only gets more disorginized and polluted with "NDA lifted" threads. Please, say what you will about the forums but don't deprive me of Vanu and Conglomerate scum to kill!! :D Personally I love this forum, one of the most helpfull game forums I have found in a while. But, hey, to each his own.

[Cyanide]

Dude the community is not that bad. I think you need to lighten up a little bit. So people get into heated arguments once in a while. That stuff happens. It's human nature to inform others of your opinions and what you think of their opinions. For the most part i haven't seen too many people get flamed hard. There are some people who don't seem to realize that others don't have the beta. But for the most part the community seems decent. It's impossible to have a large, age diverse, community without sparking a few flame wars. Besides, you can always squelch (ignore) the assholes when in game.

[Lethe]

Originally posted by MilitantB0B
Personally I love this forum, one of the most helpfull game forums I have found in a while.

How many game forums have you been on? :D Im not going to say bad things about the game.....I have no right I havent played it yet, I will say however that from what Ive seen its the worst community Ive ever seen, and since, as I said, Im there only source of information theyll back away just as I am.

[Cyanide]

Well, if you're so set on leaving then just do it. Nothing we say is gonna change your mind. We can't help it if you're hypersensative.

[Lethe]

Its not like that, Im trying to show you guys to lighten up, that a community can seriously destroy a game. I dont know if its jus that tensions are high because open beta is comming or what, but most people Ive seen on this board are just serious assholes. A person posts a question or idea and the first reply I see is a retort about how dumb the person is or how dumb what he said is. Cant some of you learn "if you dont have anything nice to say dont say it at all".

Seriously, someone please tell me what snatch's point was when he posted "No, your dumb". Did that accomplish anything? All it did was tell me that this dude is a dick. When someone asks a question or gives a suggestion its wise that you respond if you have an answer or something else to contribute.

I was trying to help with something I saw as a problem and IMMEDIATLY people jumped all over my back instead of explaining things their way, thats not a good thing man.

[Antres Midel]

I appologize in advance if this is taken the wrong way but as far as I can see there wasn't any serious contention in the said forums before you posted your complaint. Might I sugjest that instead of flaming everyone that can't or doesn't know how to fabricate an intelligent response to your complaint. Ya know it's like the whole "You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" idea. Just a thought. (By the way though this whole thread should be in the Lounge area. Just for future refrence.:D )

-Antres Midel
Shuriken Battle Group

[MilitantB0B]

Originally posted by Lethe
How many game forums have you been on? :D Im not going to say bad things about the game.....I have no right I havent played it yet, I will say however that from what Ive seen its the worst community Ive ever seen, and since, as I said, Im there only source of information theyll back away just as I am.
Alright then. You have obviously made up your mind. I have been in several game forums (first one I have followed since before release) to name a few (not that it matters) DAoC, T2, CS, and some others (who can remeber all these things?). Good luck with whatever you do. Hate to see someone miss out on alot of fun over seeing "NDA Lifted!!" one two many times but oh well. God speed (and moving at the speed of God is pretty quick :D )

[MilitantB0B]

Originally posted by Antres Midel
(By the way though this whole thread should be in the Lounge area. Just for future refrence.:D )
:lol: :rofl: :lol:
Hoisted on your own batard(sp)!!!

[Euroclydon]

What I was trying to explain, is that this game is so big, it doesn't need a community to keep it together (and considering that it's an FPS game, and not an RPG adds to that). JG _needs_ a community, but PS hardly provides for a community to flourish at all, seeing you can't even chat with other empires in game. It's all forum based. And then, the only purpose for the forum is to discuss the game, not necessarily in game experiences (because it's unlikely those experiences will be shared with anyone else on the forums since the game is huge).

Anyway, everything else I had to say was in my PM. :) Keep it cool, bro.

[Lethe]

Originally posted by Antres Midel
Might I sugjest that instead of flaming everyone that can't or doesn't know how to fabricate an intelligent response to your complaint.

Maybe thats where Im being misunderstood. What I posted was a suggestion, not a complaint. It turned into a compaint after the 2 idots replied without really adding anything but an insult. You see, I meant this as a suggestion because I thought it might help, but then (this is where the flame comes in) a few people jumped on my back (as I have seen in many other threads on this forum) which pissed me off and tailspun me into insulting the community. Im not gonna take it back, because its true, but you see.....if the first reponses wouldve been even semi-intelligent (whether positive or negative) it wouldve been all cool. I expected to hear either "Nah man, thanks but we're cool this way" or "yea, good idea dude, lets see if we can work it out" not "No, your dumb". Do you see what I mean? It was never meant to be what is it right now.

[Lethe]

Originally posted by Euroclydon
What I was trying to explain, is that this game is so big, it doesn't need a community to keep it together (and considering that it's an FPS game, and not an RPG adds to that). JG _needs_ a community, but PS hardly provides for a community to flourish at all, seeing you can't even chat with other empires in game. It's all forum based. And then, the only purpose for the forum is to discuss the game, not necessarily in game experiences (because it's unlikely those experiences will be shared with anyone else on the forums since the game is huge).

Anyway, everything else I had to say was in my PM. :) Keep it cool, bro.

As I said in the PM PS is a FPS bame, but its also a MMO, which needs a community, if it didnt have one, it would be just another single player game with a playerserver multi setup a.k.a. you hop in and bash stuff when you feel like it then hop out. If it wants to be a true MMO its needs a community, thats what defines an MMO. If you dont have a group to share happenings with, its not MMO. If that said group is a group of jerks, no one's gonna wanna play.....see my point? Your simply forgetting the MMO part in MMOFPS

[Bri]

All games need some form of community or they won't last long now adays.

[Lethe]

Originally posted by Bri
All games need some form of community or they won't last long now adays.

Finally someone on my side......and eh! a JGer! :)

[Bri]

Course, and if you think about it even PS has some RP. As Moll said "RP is everywhere I tell you!" I mean, PS even has a backstory.

[Euroclydon]

Yes, it most definately has a back story. That's part of the reason I choose Vanu. :)

But I'm not sure if RP and community necessarily go hand in hand...

BTW, PS could redefine MMO too, you never know. ;) Up until now, MMO games have been RPGs. The point of this MMO is that the battle never ends, not so much that you build up your characters role play.

I still just think you shouldn't judge the goodness of this game, and what this game will be by it's community. If you join a strong outfit, you can build up the "closeness" that JG has with a few people, and it will be just as effective. It's impossible to have a close community when there's 100,000 people playing the game though. :p

Anyways... time for bed

[�io]

Ok so let me get this straight.... PSU is a community of jerks and immature idiots who only flame new comers and you're apprently a MMO god who knows what a community should be and we should all listen to you?

http://bohica.planetside-universe.com/images/forumPics/black%20dot.jpg


See, we do have a sense of humour. :)

[NeoTassadar]

/me plots to papercut thread to death

[Incompetent]

:stupid:

Let me get this straight, you think this game is going to suck, without even playing it, based only on your experiences over, what, 2-3 days.

edit: damn you NeoTassadar, i was trying to agree with Dio

[NeoTassadar]

And it put you on a seperate page, as well. Sorry 'bout that.

[Incompetent]

gah, even worse
/me throws rocks at Tassadar

[NeoTassadar]

Owww...
/me gives Incompetent bad karma out the wazoo

[�io]

Guys STFU, we're bad people remember, we have to wait and listen to what our great leader Leeche says. If not the community will fail and all hope will be lost !!!

[NeoTassadar]

Yyyeeesss, Dio.
/me hunches over and hides in dark corner

[Incompetent]

/me worships Lethe the all knowing recruit who has been a active community member for... a little over twelve hours now

edit: should probably get the name right

[TheAngelOfWar]

*sigh*

the problem with "jerk communities" is that everyone feels they MUST have the last word. they arent leet if they dont. proof? you replied to people you truly felt were idiots. knowing that if they are idiots there's no point in reasoning. yet you still replied to them. then they replied. then you replied. now its down to "you said" "i said".

intelligent community = post intelligent stuff, and IGNORE the rest.

myself, i wont even open this thread again. my 2 cents has been given. no need to defend it. take it or leave it.

[Ruthless]

the guy has a good point. cut him some slack. he may not have said it the best way, but its still a good point.

[NeoTassadar]

He's a hypocrite. Wasn't going to say anything, but someone had to agree with him. He is doing exactly what he is scolding everyone else for. Of course, it's the only way he can get it across, but he is telling everyone else to restrain themselves from getting their points across. Leche is not necessarily an idiot anyway, maybe an ass who's thinking with his balls too much for a while there, but not an idiot from what I've seen.

Edit: Leche, that's it. Editing name to clear up confusion.