Infiltration sounds cool ta me

[FliggenMan]

This ma be just me, but i think stting traps and slicing your enemies throat is cool as hell. Also ,infiltrators are the best scouts for inside bases that are unreachable by other recon.

[The President]

Yeah infiltration is a cool concept, just hope that no one in the base has darklight cuz they have crap for armor.

-The President:sniper:

[kid klash]

the only thing that excites ME about infiltrators is the fact that u can catch em, follow em, wait until they're JUST about to knife some1, or hack a console or someting, and then bust a cap on their ass!

[Prowler]

lol true.

[Deadlock]

definatly making one of my characters an infiltrator.... btw, they can handel the enginering certs too right?

[Airlift]

The most fun thing to do with an infiltrator is to kill other infiltrators.

The second most fun thing to do is to punish snipers who go too long without displacing.

The third most fun thing to do is sit in a crowded base and report movements to your team.

The fourth most fun thing to do is to get a cloaked wraith and run down stragglers in an infantry movement.

The fifth most fun thing to do is to hide outdoors and plink pistol shots off of a MAX's back to annoy and confuse him.

The sixth most fun thing to do is to get into a crowded enemy tower and make them grief each other trying to kill you.

The seventh most fun thing to do is to hack an enemy vehicle pad, set up an AMS in the walls and watch friendly troops start pouring in.

The eighth most fun thing is to jack a vehicle while an enemy gunner is using it as a turret, which kicks them out, then get in their seat and kill them with the gun.

The ninth most fun thing is to jack an AMS while the enemy is using it.

The tenth most fun thing to do with an infiltrator is to join a group of infiltrators and go on a ninja killing spree.

The cheesiest thing do with an infiltrator is to hack a base, then hack a terminal, then spawn a MAX to defend your hack.The cheesiest thing you can

[Airlift]

Originally posted by Deadlock
definatly making one of my characters an infiltrator.... btw, they can handel the enginering certs too right?

Yes, but you should take advanced hacking too, because you run out of ACEs pretty quick.

[Deadlock]

The fifth most fun thing to do is to hide outdoors and plink pistol shots off of a MAX's back to annoy and confuse him.

:rofl: that just bitch slapped my funny bone for some reason

oyeah, thanks for the advice on the adv. hackin, didnt think about that.

[Vash]

I experienced a cloaked guy running around dropping boomers in a base we were defending a couple days ago.

It was pretty spooky... every so often I'd just hear a <beep beep> <BOOM!> followed by someone's death message.
It took forever to find the little ***** too. Though I took great satisfaction in putting my shotgun to his head when I finally did :twisted:

[MilitantB0B]

Originally posted by Vash
I experienced a cloaked guy running around dropping boomers in a base we were defending a couple days ago.

It was pretty spooky... every so often I'd just hear a <beep beep> <BOOM!> followed by someone's death message.
It took forever to find the little ***** too. Though I took great satisfaction in putting my shotgun to his head when I finally did :twisted:

Nice to hear that you can base rape in this game like you could in T2. I loved doing that. A couple of skilled cloaked players could make the enemies base the most dangerous place on the map. It remeber how funny it was to watch somebody as they where trying to run out of the base before you killed them from the shadows.
It seems like to me that this game has alot of the good elements of other FPS but very few of the bad ones.
/em crosses his fingers and hopes he wins one of the many beta contests he entered.

[Deadlock]

em crosses his fingers and hopes he wins one of the many beta contests he entered.

Amen to that... i even wrote essays to win the shit, u know im desperate

[Sando138]

Cloaker sub-divisions:

"Ninja" style: go in with a pistol of preference, a lot of ammo, and your knife. use the pistol if nessisary, but the noise alerts the enemy to your presence. use your knife to slice and dice your way through any enemy who messes with you, except a MAX, in which case it is a good idea to run.

"Mad-Bombardier" style: Boomeriffic! fun for the whole family, assuming they enjoy big explosions too. run around with as many grenades and boomers as you can, setting traps and destroying vital equipment. when you run out of ordinance, hack some from a console!

"Scout" style: waltz on in, knife an enemy every so often, report on troop movements, etc.

"Stealth-heavy" style: get in, hack a quip terminal, and put on your uber-l337 medium armor with a phoenix rocket launcher, guass, mag scatter, and medical gear. now fight your way out, assassinating anyone and everyone who doesnt see you coming, and gunning down anyone who does.

[MilitantB0B]

I had an idea the other day regarding infiltration armor. If you where gonna be a purely dedicated pilot why wouldn't you want to use infiltration armor? Armor for a pilot is like the french army (do I really need to follow through with this joke? :) ) that is unless you get shot down. It seems to me that it would be more usefull to disapear into your sourounding (infiltration) then to be able to fight your way out a bit. If you tick them off enough to have them shoot you down then they are probably gonna track you down and kill you and your agile armor would not make enough difference in that fight. But, if they couldn't find you to kill you then it wouldn't matter. The only time this wouldn't work is if one of them had darklight vision. This is probably just a stupid idea from a non-betaenlightened individual, but, hey, thats what I am here for. :D

[PeregineDive]

Thats a good point BOB. Would be really coold if after they managed to shoot you down somehow, you could still run around and cause havok with an infiltration suit!


-PD

[Prowler]

Infiltration units are key to winning.

[Airlift]

Another Stealth subclass would be Pistol Sniper. You really want the TR pistol for this, but the amp will do in a pinch. Follow people from a distance and shoot them every time you get to suitable cover. Nobody uses Darklight outside unless they suspect you already, and you can usually pick and choose your targets if you are patient.

The one that describes how I play most is the invisible squadmate. You travel with your squad and use your pistol to help assault and defend. In the face of a group of visible units, very few people look for invisible ones.

There's also the Stealth Defender. That one is pretty popular and effective indoors or at wooded areas near base walls.

[MilitantB0B]

Originally posted by Airlift
There's also the Stealth Defender. That one is pretty popular and effective indoors or at wooded areas near base walls.

Can you ellaborate on that one a bit more? It sounds really interesting. :D

[gondor]

You will learn pretty quick 90% of the player base has chosen darklight vision as their implant.

I toyed with the infiltrator for a couple days and I get capped lightning quick while in stealth mode by regular infantry guys, every single time.

It is overly romanticized..you'll see.

[FliggenMan]

does the infiltration armor allow for a suppressor? bc if it does that wud be great, since its silenced and makes for great "invisible ambushes" on unsuspecting foes.:D

[Airlift]

Stealth defense is very similar to stealth offense, except that you don't have to be nearly as sneaky because the base is friendly. It isn't worth doing anywhere that doesn't get regular attacks, but you can hack a base where a response can be expected and then do it.

A lot of people will sit stealthed in the cap room, but people responding to hacks usually come with darklight on, especially if they encounter little interior defense. A better idea is to hide somewhere on the floor of the cap room and watch doors and stairwells. If a MAX comes to respond, stay hidden because he can't hack and you probably won't kill him with a pistol before he smears you across the floor. When someone capable of counterhacking responds, stay hidden until they pass and then follow them. Give them 5 seconds to get started on a good hack and then unload a clip in their back.

Cloaked defenders can also be useful outside. Like I said about the pistol snipers, people don't run around outside with darklight unless they think someone is there. So you hang around trees and watch for infantry to come thru. Pick and choose your targets, range magnifier or Advanced Targeting are both very useful for this role.

[FliggenMan]

I get capped lightning quick while in stealth mode by regular infantry guys, every single time.

if what u say is true, since u must have beta, means that infiltrators must giv up altogether...or find a way around this-
although it does not seem like there is right now. Can infantry only use one piece of support equipment at a time or can they use them all together?
:confused:

[Airlift]

Just because one guy gets roasted every time as a stealth does not reflect poorly on the class. Darklight is not as common as you make it out to be and nobody under BR 6 even has a chance to get it. Besides, you should expect people to have darklight, but people don't simply run around with it on all the time. What you shouldn't expect tho, is for the stealth suit to do the job for you.

Make no mistake, it is hard to be an effective cloaker. When you are caught, you will usually be killed. If you wander into the scope of a sniper, you will be killed every time. You will be run over (sometimes by friendlies), shot (also by friendlies), blown up (occasionally by friendlies), and sometimes stabbed to death by other cloaks. On the other hand, if you have the patience to develop the skill, you will be a force. And if you have a good squad to work with, it isn't that hard at all.

Infiltration Suit cannot use a supressor, or anything bigger than 2x2 pistol. You can carry a medium assault weapon in inventory, but unless you're looting and sticking it in your locker there is no point in it.

Added-> At most, you can have 3 implants (br6, 12, 18?), and you can only have 1 active at a time. They all drain your stamina when used, and Darklight restricts visibility by a lot.

[FliggenMan]

At most, you can have 3 implants (br6, 12, 18?), and you can only have 1 active at a time. They all drain your stamina when used, and Darklight restricts visibility by a lot.

this is good news because most will not hav darlight activated frequently either because they need their usage for a more significant tool, or b/c it restricts visibility, especially at night, where i see a cloaker shining.

[gondor]

I am talking about being in bases..that is when everyone has thier darklight turned on. Trust me and most choose darklight..I think it is the most useful implant as do most other beta players since my butt dies in enemy bases lightning quick.

If you wanna chill outside at night on a road, cloaked waiting for unsuspecting infantry to run by then yes you might get the jump on them and get the kill.

But if you are entering an enemy base near the control terminal to hack or counter-hack prepare to die quick. If anyone is down there while the base has been hacked or is being hacked they will all have darklight on. They expect hackers to be there.

As a matter of fact most enemies inside the base will most likely have thier darklight activated.

I try to open your eyes since I see a lot of wannabe ninja hackers romanticizing going into bases cloaked and easily killing everyone and hacking left and right. hehehe trust me you are in for a very rude awakening.

[Airlift]

If you go in by yourself, you should expect to die quick, yes. For the last week, I've been doing nothing but stealthing and I don't die that often, even going into bases. Lone Wolves will always be slaughtered, cloak or no cloak.

Players get distracted. They are impatient. They are fallable even with darklight. Little things count, like waiting for someone to open a door instead of hacking it open, walking instead of running to avoid tripping motion sensors, crouching and hiding behind things while the enemy goes past.

[BlackHawk]

Hmm, I had actually not been considering being a stealther much before I read your post Airlift. If takes as much skill as you say it does, though, I'll surely try it out. Sounds kinda like Thief (which is good ;)). Thanks! :)

[Baphomet]

:thumbsup:

Infiltration sounds rad.. cant wait for my cd's.

[Peanut]

My infil setup: AMP, REK, plasma gren, 2 boxes of AI ammo. No point in AP ammo, leave the max killing to other people.

Adv hack, wraith, AMS, harasser certs (I think that's all I have)

Surge implant

Adv hack because it's great to be able to use enemy med stations, inv stations, vpads, and hack CTs lickity split.

Wraith because it's quick to get around the map on if you don't have an ams nearby

AMS because every squad needs an AMS driver, and it's awesome to hack enemy AMSes and then steal them. :p

Harasser so I can carry my sniper pal just in case. This is the least vital, I actually haven't used a harasser but once in the past few days.

Infiling isn't all ninjaness and hacking though. You die A LOT to the more experienced players. And don't even think about touching a MAX, just pray that they don't notice you. You also have very little room for anything in your inventory. It's hard to have flexibility in your infil role, whereas reinforced can carry and do everything under the sun.

I have surge implant because when a turret or max does notice me, my ass needs to get out of range asap so I can hide in a corner til they give up searching.

:ncrocks:

Heh...funny infil story:
Tonight, me and my squad were assualting a base. I got seperated from the rest, but was at the CT room. Saw one person in agile armor inside.

I circled around to the other door after arming my plasma gren. Tossed it inside at agile. Sprinted to other door, armed AMP, gunned him down. But, while I was doing that, I found out another infil was in the room with me, by way of his AMP bullets flying into me. :D

We both stopped firing and just stood there...both low on health, and not knowing exactly where the other was. Then, by reflex....I hit the reload button! Woe was me. Stupid, stupid reflex. He popped a cap in my ass and I died then. :sick:

[LesserShade]

gondor is right that infiltration is definitely romanticized. I have a fealing that a lot of people will try it, run into a few people with darklight, and quit. Even still though, I have more fun on my infiltrator character than I do with any of my others. Darklight is a bitch, BUT people aren't running around with it on all the time, they'll only turn it on if you give them a reason to. If you are patient, move slow and wait for the right opportunities you can move wherever you want and remain there for as long as you want, even cut down people with darklight. However, if you drop in a base and start trying to be super stealth l33t ninja assassin, you are going to get your ass blasted off more than likely.

Airlift, on your list of the most fun things to do with infil suits, I'd have to say that hacking an AMS while the enemy is using it is a little higher on my own list of most fun things to do ;) I can't help but laughing when you sneak in and jack an AMS when people are spawning then deconstruct it as soon as you get control.

Anyway, i'm not sure what is more fun, blasting an infiltrator that is standing still because he thinks you cant see him with a flechette rifle at point blank range... or stealth sniping with that repeater.

[�io]

I love the infiltration suit. Has said previously don't think it's all cakewalk, it takes a lot of skill to actually survive in an enemy base but an experienced cloaker can do some good damage.

Oh and for the "Pistol stealth" the Repeater is probably good but the MAG-scatter is definitely the king. I could actually kill MAXs in a stealth suit! :D

[Dharkbayne]

The best place for an inf. to sit in a CC room is the LEFT side of the console itsself, for some reason, noone ever looks up there, even when a TR with a chaingun runs around shooting the room loooking for stealthers, ive even been hit, and he didn't shoot at me again, and since I don't think the reinforced can jump up there, ur only nme is agil jumping into u, and inf, agile, you can kill with knife in 1-2 shots, and inf 1 shot btw, im saying all these with melee booster and secondary on, MAXes never see u and its sweet, inf is the best, ive killed more ppl with my infiltrator than with my reinforced armor guy, its wierd. Well, thats my eleventy-two cents. :)

[MilitantB0B]

Originally posted by gondor
As a matter of fact most enemies inside the base will most likely have thier darklight activated.

I try to open your eyes since I see a lot of wannabe ninja hackers romanticizing going into bases cloaked and easily killing everyone and hacking left and right. hehehe trust me you are in for a very rude awakening.

I hope your right. I hope that there is a horde of wannabe stealth ninja that think they are going to own all. That way, when they all get there hopes crushed and the population of stealthers dwindles, people will dich the darklight in favor of something else. Until then I will be grunting. :D