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glsauron
2003-04-14, 10:51 PM
2 questions
1: On the maps released of the continets several of them show the AMP station as having a bigger SOI. This has been released. Yet on some pics the OTHER SOIs are bigger (same size as AMP) for that empire, and some they are smaller, normal size. Which is it?

2: Binding. Can you hack a tower (say inside a cont lock) and then having people bind to it and then suicide (hence respawn) inside that tower?...Can you bind to a tube on a dif continent?

Prowler
2003-04-14, 10:52 PM
Good Qs :)

MilitantB0B
2003-04-14, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by Prowler
Good Qs :)

Ditto :nod:

zenthor
2003-04-14, 11:01 PM
i have no clue bump

MilitantB0B
2003-04-14, 11:35 PM
Come on. One of you smart beta people have got to have an answer for nice questions such as these. :D

JonnyK
2003-04-14, 11:42 PM
about first one, there's a building where when your empire controls it, it expands all of your soi's making them bigger than they normally would be, that could be what that's from

Euroclydon
2003-04-14, 11:43 PM
I'm not in beta, but from what I read on the AVault preview, the AMP increases your SOI. Check those maps, and see if the bases other than the AMP with a big SOI were owned by the empire that had the AMP station. The bases that didn't have a big SOI should then be owned by the empires that don't have the AMP base.

As far as the second one, I think you have to actually go to a tower/respawn point to be able to spawn there, and that probably gets wiped out every time the base/tower is capped by someone else. I could speculate further on this, but since it's just speculation, I'm probably wasting my time, since you don't care what I say since I'm not in beta. ;)

glsauron
2003-04-14, 11:57 PM
JonnyK- The building you speak of is the AMP station. Yes the empire does have one on that continent, the question was why does it seem to effect the other SOIs haphazardly? Sometimes it does sometimes they look normal sized...

LLMerc
2003-04-15, 08:41 AM
1:

The Amp station grants it SOI increase only when controlled by the empire. Thus, if it is hacked (look for the two flags icon) it would not grant the SOI increase to other bases (it's SOI would still be large) Thus it is possible that Amp station was hacked at the time the screenshot was taken.

2:
In order to bind to a tower/ams/station you must go to a matrix panel within that tower/ams/station (outside the AMS actualy =) So, no you can not use it for transportation.

Pilgrim
2003-04-15, 09:04 AM
Amp Station as stated by everyone else.

As to the other,

I've never seen a Matrix panel in a tower or at an AMS before, What would have to happen is HART drop in, take a tower, then if you die close enough to the SOI of that tower, respawn there.

Of course once a continent is in lock there is no reason for the people who locked it to stay, so taking a tower in this fashion is simple... Thus still making Continent lock useless!

But I digress.

LLMerc
2003-04-15, 10:40 AM
The AMS has a matrix panel. However, you are right, I have never seen one in a tower, hmmm

LesserShade
2003-04-15, 10:45 AM
Aren't there matrix panels attached to the actual spawn tubes in the towers?

GGMajic
2003-04-15, 11:13 AM
Surely you can only respawn in a tower that you own. If the opposing team caps the tower- you can't..?

plus, they've changed the continent lock to not allow HART entry, only through warpgates. So although you could take a tower near a gate, it would be hard to hold since the enemy knows exactly where you are and can concentrate in the vicinity.

Shoddy
2003-04-15, 11:59 AM
Mosquito goes pretty fast... it doesn't take long to run down to the middle of a locked continent and take a tower there. No, I don't think you can spawn at a facility if you don't own it (except for logging back in after you quit there) even if you were matrixed there.

glsauron
2003-04-15, 01:15 PM
So for a locked continent you can use warpgates (and hence vehicles) but not HARTs? Doesn't that make CL useless? The point was you had to take a base no vehicles and then defend it with what you could spawn. This SUCKS! Course, Im not beta :)

A single gate is the size of a normal SOI right? That makes them rather big areas to surround...especially with 3-4 per continent...

Joker
2003-04-15, 06:29 PM
I think people have got a bit confused over your initial question.

The reason AMP stations sometimes look like having a smaller SOI and sometimes look like having a larger SOI is this:

SOI size is dependent on the level of NTUs in the base. On the maps you will notice that the bases with high NTU percentages have the largest SOIs.

The AMP station increases the sizes of the SOIs of the bases your faction controls on that continent.

So if ur AMP station has lower NTUs than ur Tech Plant then it will have a smaller SOI, but the fact that u own the AMP station means both SOIs are larger than they would be without it.

Cronus
2003-04-15, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by glsauron
So for a locked continent you can use warpgates (and hence vehicles) but not HARTs? Doesn't that make CL useless? The point was you had to take a base no vehicles and then defend it with what you could spawn. This SUCKS! Course, Im not beta :)


You've got it the wrong way round. You can only use the HART on a locked continent, not the warp gates.

glsauron
2003-04-15, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by GGMajic
Surely you can only respawn in a tower that you own. If the opposing team caps the tower- you can't..?

plus, they've changed the continent lock to not allow HART entry, only through warpgates. So although you could take a tower near a gate, it would be hard to hold since the enemy knows exactly where you are and can concentrate in the vicinity.

Originally posted by GLSauron
So for a locked continent you can use warpgates (and hence vehicles) but not HARTs? Doesn't that make CL useless? The point was you had to take a base no vehicles and then defend it with what you could spawn. This SUCKS! Course, Im not beta


Originally posted by Cronus
You've got it the wrong way round. You can only use the HART on a locked continent, not the warp gates.


Looking at what he said...asking for clarification...and Ive seen it said that a major patch is going in this week adjusting CL, Grief, some other stuff...