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MilitantB0B
2003-04-22, 06:17 PM
I was watching Mir's first video again (cause the servers are down) and I saw an infiltrator on a wraith. He wasn't moving but he was pretty visible. Does the "I am not moving so you can't see me" rule not apply when you are riding a wraith? Thanks in advance.

Airlift
2003-04-22, 06:29 PM
The wraith is visible when moving or taking damage. It seems like maybe a wraith is more visible when it is heavily damaged, but I'm not sure. When the wraith moves at low throttle, it is easy to miss, but at high speeds it is obvious.

You used to be able to run people over all day long, but now the wraith takes real damage from collisions with armor.

Big Bro
2003-04-22, 06:35 PM
Stealth invisibility is generally detectible with the naked eye when the stealther is moving faster than "slow". The benefit of the Wraith is that at long distances that cloak muddles you to the point that you will see the enemy long before he sees you.

The Wraith is nice, but a good infiltrator spends more time off of their Wraith than on it. :)

MilitantB0B
2003-04-22, 06:39 PM
I was thinking of making my first character a combat engineer infiltrator. I was just thinking of using the wraith as a mobile resuply station by piling extra ACEs and AMP ammo in the trunk.

Airlift
2003-04-22, 07:02 PM
Here's Where I go with my infiltrator. I'm going to hit the level 6 mark shortly after they bring up the server.

Lvl 1 Wraith + Infiltrator
Lvl 4 Hacking
Lvl 6 AMS, Darklight Vision
Lvl 8 Adv Hacking
Lvl 11 Drop AMS, Pick up Engineer and Combat Engineer
Lvl 12 Range Magnifier
Lvl 13 AMS
Lvl 15 Medium Assault
Lvl 18 MAX (AI if I'm Terran, AV if I'm NC) or Reinforced or Sniper, Surge or Melee Booster or Advanced Targeting
Lvl 20 AA MAX

Nitsch
2003-04-22, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by MilitantB0B
I was thinking of making my first character a combat engineer infiltrator. I was just thinking of using the wraith as a mobile resuply station by piling extra ACEs and AMP ammo in the trunk.

This is exactly what i do.... I park the wraith just outside base, drop all my mines... reload.... drop all mines... rinse.. repeat.

Also comes in handy to keep it full when defending too. If someone hacks the base you still have supplies.

r3d
2003-04-22, 07:08 PM
Wraith is pretty fun, kinda sucks moving at 10% around a base though just so people cant see you. even at 10% you're pretty visible, but its all good. Its not that bad.

Airlift
2003-04-22, 07:09 PM
There's special Wraith Parking near the basement entrance of all the bases. ;)

r3d
2003-04-22, 07:12 PM
Thanks for pointing that out Airlift, I only wish my prowler fit :brow:

JonnyK
2003-04-22, 07:13 PM
if you move while crouched, you stay totally invisible, i walked around crouched in a small cc room (the circle kind of one that's up top) and threw grenades and stuff at the ppl who were hacking, i killed 2-3 different hackers before a max found me

MilitantB0B
2003-04-22, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by Airlift
There's special Wraith Parking near the basement entrance of all the bases. ;)
Are you for real? I have only had about 15 minutes total to play the game since I got it working today. If you where joking then I = Teh n00b

Airlift
2003-04-22, 08:02 PM
I'm half joking. There's room by the back door to park your wraith, but it makes life harder inside if someone finds a cloaked wraith parked at the back door, it's usually better to stick it in a nearby group of trees.

Fire_Monkey
2003-04-22, 08:05 PM
Airlift, Messing with people's heads :nono:

FearTheAtlas
2003-04-22, 08:36 PM
Hmmmm...I really don't see the point to cloaked Wraiths, I can see them easily when their going fast...and when I'm an infiltrator I forget where I put the bloody thing and end up hoofing it back to a base. Perhaps its just me :(

Warborn
2003-04-22, 09:08 PM
Wraiths don't actually become more visible when hit, not like the cloak flickering or anything. When it takes damage, like other vehicles, it starts to spark. The more damage it is, the more it sparks. Anyway, the sparks will be visible even when the cloak is on. Wraith drivers need to be very careful about taking damage on a Wraith. If it gets to the point where they're sparking, they'll be visible even when immobile, as the sparks will give away their position.