Game misnamed, should of been Anarchy Online, but I guess that was taken

[MrVicchio]

Today, I got to see first hand the effects of the Matris, here are my impressions:

1. CHAOS. Period, sheer utter CHAOS. The amount of people going for a base was... insane, absolutley maddening.

2. Defind the PLACE of battle.

3. Pace of Combat was INSANE. I downed in My REAVER:

2 Galaxies
4 Reavers
1 Mosquito
3-4 MAX
15+ Ground pounders
3 Harressers
1 AMS
and a Wriath.

Went from BR1 to BR4 (or 5) I cant remember it was that fast. Mind you this all occured in about a 30 min span or so. THAT fast. It was insane. I eventually CTD so I quit. (Okay, I cursed cause I had the targets about 20 feet away, and the game froze, which woke my daughter up and FORCED me off...)

4. LOVE my NEW reaver gun sights, MUCH MUCH MUCH better, Props to the Devs

5. Like the Sancuaray Lay out. Again, Props to the Devs.

[BaD]

I liked the changes they made, but i think introducing the lattice/matrix system was just a bad idea.

Everyone wanted a way to add depth to the game, everyone wanted a solution to the phantom hacker. The lattice system was a drastic change, maybe too drastic?

BaD

[Ubernator]

Lol, you sound really stoked after all that combat, MrVicchio.

[Robot]

Originally posted by MrVicchio
Went from BR1 to BR4 (or 5) I cant remember it was that fast. Mind you this all occured in about a 30 min span or so. THAT fast. It was insane. I eventually CTD so I quit. (Okay, I cursed cause I had the targets about 20 feet away, and the game froze, which woke my daughter up and FORCED me off...)


I must be missing out on something. I didn't gain a single battle rank when I was there

Maybe it's because I somehow think that the Pulsar is one uber weapon duders

[Warborn]

Everyone wanted a way to add depth to the game, everyone wanted a solution to the phantom hacker. The lattice system was a drastic change, maybe too drastic?

No. It may or may not need a little tweaking, but I am very happy with its current state. It makes a bit more predictability to wars, letting people fall back and establish defenses at a base they know is next on the list. Previously it was a cluster shag of people scurrying around all over the continent, hacking a quarter dozen bases at a time, while not actually defending a single one. Frankly, I'll take larger and more intense battles over a bunch of phantom-chasing any day of the week.

[MercFox1]

The Lattice/Matrix idea is a great one, as it gives many things: (1) time to prepare defense or alert other squads if you are spying on a convoy approaching...(2) fixes the phantom hackers, which from I hear is annoying as heck...(3) lets an infiltrator run ahead to scope out the attackers and disable defenses.

The Lattice/Matrix idea makes it alot more like real warfare. If we left it with the old idea, people could pop out of nowhere with about 50 tanks and wipe out the whole base in an instant.

[Frozen-Monkey]

Well this is what warfare is like. just remeber, it will be a whole lot worse when planetside is released and thousands of poeple join.

Just out of curiosity, were are all these massive battles taking place?:confused:

[Angelos]

I think the idea was well thought out, and I see no flaw in the design. The battles are indeed much more intense. I found myself crowded in the air with a dozen other friendly reavers, as my squad's galaxy hot dropped onto a base. We actually had an army and a fleet. When we moved on to next facility, we found the battle. I had never been downed so fast in my reaver before. Missile lock! Missile lock!

Question:

With battles centralized, choke points established, and an actual war going on, how will this affect experience gain? Will it be too easy to reach BR20 now?

Discuss

[EODTech]

I'm still DL the beta, so i'll ask a noob question.
Whats a phantom hacker?

[Angelos]

An anti-social n00b who goes out and hacks a facility by himself, avoiding any facilities that actually have people.

Can we say pointless?

[EODTech]

So they just go out to nowhere and hack a base?
Do you get EXP for it?
I see that idea behind the tactic, gets you're side a base easy.
But where is the skill in that? And I really get into the spirit of the game my self.

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by Angelos
I think the idea was well thought out, and I see no flaw in the design. The battles are indeed much more intense. I found myself crowded in the air with a dozen other friendly reavers, as my squad's galaxy hot dropped onto a base. We actually had an army and a fleet. When we moved on to next facility, we found the battle. I had never been downed so fast in my reaver before. Missile lock! Missile lock!

Question:

With battles centralized, choke points established, and an actual war going on, how will this affect experience gain? Will it be too easy to reach BR20 now?

Discuss

I'm not a beta tester, and I don't know jack shit, but from what I've heard reavers are owning massively. I mean it's a 1 man ship with weapons for anti infantry and anti vehicles and apparently from what i've heard owns everyone. Wouldn't it make more sense to make it a 2 man vehicle? Pilot controlls the machine gun and the gunner controls a 360 degree rocket launcher?

Oh, and there is no problem with people getting to br20 too fast. The easy solution is to just adjust how much experience a soldier gets per kill/caps a base to make it harder to get to higher levels.

Edit: Vicchio, is all this massive chaos and ownage a good or a bad thing? This is a guess (and i don't really see anything in your post that gives negative/positive feedback), but are you saying that you think that battles are too large and insane respawn fests?

[Cyanide]

I personally like most of the things the new latice system has brought on. The battles are emence like they were meant to be. I went from BR4 to 6 in one session on the XP of nothing but kills (cause the capture XP system is f***ed up). I shot down one gal, 3 vangaurds, i don't know how many harassers, a bunch of maxes, a couple reavers and a mosquito. It was crazy, and yeah, the new reaver sigth is much better. The radar still needs work though.

Anyway, the caos will begin to organize when VoiceIP is implimented. Right now it's just too fast paced to be typing orders to squad mates.

[Jaged]

You are wrong M. Vic. Planetside was a great name back when they thought of it before this Lattice thing. Game names are rarely changed. Anarchy Online does fit the post lattice Planetside very well, however.....

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by Jaged
You are wrong M. Vic. Planetside was a great name back when they thought of it before this Lattice thing. Game names are rarely changed. Anarchy Online does fit the post lattice Planetside very well, however.....

Most ignorant post of the year lol. I'm sorry that was just mean. But seriously, you can taste the sarcasm of mr vic's post. :p

[Ginzue]

Hey MrVicchio, I started playing Beta today and was in some pretty big battles with my reaver, evary time I got close to a battle I started to lag SO bad it wasent even funny, how much lag did you encounter? Now I know its not my connection (I have VERY fast uber expensive cable+) but I think it could be my vid card. See I have 2000 mhz comp speed, 400 BUS, 1024 DDR memory but only a 32meg Gforce 2... Any ideas on why im laggin so much (Keep in mind that I set all vid options to as low as they will go).

[Airlift]

I think once they get the experience working the way it should, I will be pretty comfortable with the first attempt at the lattice. It's definately restrictive of what you can do, but the upside is fun. It still remains to be seen what the long term implications are, but after a day I think it is a change for the better.

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by Ginzue
Hey MrVicchio, I started playing Beta today and was in some pretty big battles with my reaver, evary time I got close to a battle I started to lag SO bad it wasent even funny, how much lag did you encounter? Now I know its not my connection (I have VERY fast uber expensive cable+) but I think it could be my vid card. See I have 2000 mhz comp speed, 400 BUS, 1024 DDR memory but only a 32meg Gforce 2... Any ideas on why im laggin so much (Keep in mind that I set all vid options to as low as they will go).

Ginzue, if i were you i wouldn't expect to have anything but the worst lag you've ever experienced in any game using a geforce 2 32 meg for planetside. I don't mean net lag, i mean your screen should probably freeze every 1-2 seconds for 10 seconds at at time in a large battle.
I mean I wouldn't be on these forums if I didn't have a great comp. I'd just be waisting my time and everyone elses. But that's just me, and I highly suggest at the very minimum get a radeon 9500 pro.

[Ginzue]

Yeh I was thinking of getting a Gforce Ti 4200 becacsue they arnt that expensive, but what do I know heh :rolleyes:

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by Ginzue
Yeh I was thinking of getting a Gforce Ti 4200 becacsue they arnt that expensive, but what do I know heh :rolleyes:

Trust me, get the 9500 pro, they're a little more expensive, but you'll get much better performance out of it. Oh by the way, even if you do get a 4200 or a 9500 pro, don't expect the lag to disappear, expect to run on very low settings and still freeze every once in awhile.

[Incubus]

I have a Ti 4200 from Gainward and the game runs just fine for me with all the settings on. I have a p4 2.53 with 553 Mhz fsb and 512 of Rambus.

[Dharkbayne]

Geforce 3 ti 500 i tink , highest settings, all hi res textures on, 1600x1200, freezes up for about 3-4 seconds at first right when you go to a base or outside or something, and then , it runs perfectly after its loaded all the models, no lag at ALL , :) P4 2ghz I think, and 512 meg ram, :)

[Matuse]

I mean I wouldn't be on these forums if I didn't have a great comp

Horsepower of your computer is meaningless in your ability to contribute to the community and discuss the game.

My computer? P3 450, 256 RAM, 32 MB Diamond Viper 770 TnT2. It will be 4 years old coming this June. Clearly there's no WAY I can play the game with it, but so what? This isn't the game, this is discussion.

[SuperGlue]

sounds like alot of fun Mr. V. Cant wait for retail

[MrVicchio]

I expierenced LAG when I got NEAR a base, and when new peopole showed, I run in FULL high res everything. Occasionally I would lag up in fights, I LAGGED so bad one time I warped from the SE corner of one base to OUTSIDE the NW of the base...

I CTD in my Galaxy and my WHOL FUCKING squad was scattered to the four winds... I was on one continent, out side the warp gate, some were on a second still yet others a third.. WIERD MAN.

But for the most part, I think that was Server side issues VICE anything else... Cept when I would down a Galaxy.. that causes lag.. bad.

I have:

Cable 756k DL 500k UL
Win XP W/DX9
AudigyII
512Megs DDR Ram
P4 1.8 Mhz
KICK FREAKING ASS NVidia GeForce4 Ti 4600


--- On to the rest of the thread.

Yes, the title was Tongue in Cheek

The new more Chaotic Battles? Very VERY VERY Good, and REALLY REALLY BAD.

VVVGood because now its not one or two bad guys but a shitload.

RRBad because now its not one of two bad guys but a shitload.

[Ginzue]

Should I get DX9? Does it help the game any?

[Angelos]

I hate to make you feel bad, but I don't lag like that. The only CTD's I have are from that sound bug. I've been having, through and through, a wonderful experience. I think the new lattice system greatly improved gameplay, for the reason mr. vicchio points out. Lots of people instead of a few. That, I believe, was the purpose all along. Initially they probably expected it to naturally happen. Instead they had to develop the lattice system to force it to happen. I feel it was an improvement.

The lag issue... well, I can't help ya bub. My specs are as follows:

2ghz p4 w/ 400mhz bus
512 RAM
Radeon 9700 <---- actually got kick-ass award
Cable 1.5mb down, 256k up (though I've clocked it going over 2mb down)

There are people similar to me who have problems, and some who don't. I have a friend who has almost exact system, just with nvidia card. He seems to be doing fine like myself.

[Angelos]

Originally posted by Ginzue
Should I get DX9? Does it help the game any?

No, don't get it.

1. No game supports it, so useless.
2. People have experienced problems with it and PS. Problems disappeared when they went back to 8.1
3. Newer does NOT mean better.

[Franchize]

Curse this anticipation! I have been following these posts and voraciously reading everything I could about the game, trying to absorb as much info as I could. My friend was accepted for the Beta (I wasn't as my box is simply outdated now), and he invited me over to check out today.

DAMN HIM! Now I am nearly insane with my PS obsession! I just got a little taste, and it was like some kind of hellacious drug! I stormed out into the battlefield after getting a couple of certs (my reading it appears has aided me greatly, my friend never realised that he had 4 cert points to begin with). I equipped myself in some agile armor and with a Gauss rifle (he's an NC puke, I informed him I would be taking the cause of the TR when I get my copy). I found myself in the midst of a huge battle (thanks to instant action) to take a Vanu held base. Maxes were flying everywhere, Reavers screamed overhead, and everywhere you looked there were soldiers sallying forth to join the fray.


Admittedly, I didn't attempt to coordinate with my teammates, my friend said I could play around for a few minutes then were going to get something to eat. I decided to see how much I could take in so I just began to raom the battlefield looking for some cursed Vanu to gun down. Me and a batch of NC grunts all swarmed a jumping Vanu MAX (Tribes 2 flashback!) and managed to make him come down once and for all. I helped another fellow NC grunt hold a bunker, but those sneaky Vanu came in behind us and gunned us down. It lasted all of about 8 minutes or so, but I am hooked. If this new lattice system is responsible for the huge battle I was involved in, sign me up!

I now wait with white knuckled anticipation for my preordered copy to ship on the 19th (fingers crossed and double crossed that they meet this date).

[Sando138]

All in all, the matrix itself isnt that bad. it's the 'left the world' bug. every 10 minutes, you see a popup informing you that you have 'left the world'. you are promptly disconnected and crashed to desktop. and it always happens when i find a group of enemies to mulch...

[Angelos]

Sounds like a personal problem sando.

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by Angelos
I hate to make you feel bad, but I don't lag like that. The only CTD's I have are from that sound bug. I've been having, through and through, a wonderful experience. I think the new lattice system greatly improved gameplay, for the reason mr. vicchio points out. Lots of people instead of a few. That, I believe, was the purpose all along. Initially they probably expected it to naturally happen. Instead they had to develop the lattice system to force it to happen. I feel it was an improvement.

The lag issue... well, I can't help ya bub. My specs are as follows:

2ghz p4 w/ 400mhz bus
512 RAM
Radeon 9700 <---- actually got kick-ass award
Cable 1.5mb down, 256k up (though I've clocked it going over 2mb down)

There are people similar to me who have problems, and some who don't. I have a friend who has almost exact system, just with nvidia card. He seems to be doing fine like myself.

Dear god, I don't know if my dsl can handle planetside. Lowest of the low, 256k up, 256k down. Though for some odd reason, and no tech support can fix it, every 10-20 seconds my upload goes down to 85k for half a second to 2 seconds.
I don't even get 256k up/down. I get 180k up/down to 220k up/down.

I know ps is going to be practically unplayable for those unfortunate 56kers out there (god bless their positive attitudes), but I wonder if it's going to be alot or a little laggy for us low end dsl/cable owners.

[Jaged]

Originally posted by Venoxile
Most ignorant post of the year lol. I'm sorry that was just mean. But seriously, you can taste the sarcasm of mr vic's post. :p



And you couldn't taste the scarcasm in my post?

[Angelos]

Originally posted by Venoxile
I know ps is going to be practically unplayable for those unfortunate 56kers out there (god bless their positive attitudes), but I wonder if it's going to be alot or a little laggy for us low end dsl/cable owners.


Actually, everyone on dial-up that has gotten past the patching and on to gameplay that I've seen has had no problems. But I've only seen a couple people so far...

[MrVulcan]

Today, I got to see first hand the effects of the Matris, here are my impressions:

1. CHAOS is right, hours and hours of masses not moving anywhere!

2. "Defind the PLACE of battle." :lol: yep right agian

3. Pace of Combat was INSANE. I had the NC Anti Armor max most of the time, I ate up almost anything out there... Took down more than my fair share of maxs and prowlers :lol:

Went from BR1 to BR6 in 3 hours, and I tried not to get in the thick of things all the time!!

4. <not air much so dont know>

5. I Like the Sancuaray Lay out much more than the old one. [/B][/QUOTE]

[LesserShade]

^Yes, the sanctuary layout change is fantastic.

Once they cleared up that CTD and invulernability bug yesterday afternoon the gameplay was awesome. The matrix system works great IMO, no more playing hacked facility wack-a-mole.

[MrVicchio]

Yeah Hack-a-mole.. I liek that term, hate the actualality tho.

[Angelos]

It seems like now any time someone even tries to hack a facility alone, they get bum rushed by entire squads. I saw a facility being secured by 2 squads. The other empire sent one hacker to fight us. Poor guy.

Although last night, we surprised the Terrans. There was a MASSIVE battle at this one facility. Smaller battles at surrounding facilities. But our lattice gave us opportunities elsewhere, so my squad flew away from that battle. We managed to snag two facilities and controlling half the surrounding area of the terran sanc warp gate before they caught on and sent forces to hold their ground. I think that really hurt the terrans, because I believe the forces sent to stop us allowed our comrades to the north secure that area.

Of course, I got owned when an entire terran squad opened fire on my purple bum as I came out of a tower we just secured :(