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FliggenMan
2003-04-30, 08:16 PM
Did Starcraft: Ghost come out yet? And if it did, is it good or bad? Details if ya can spare 'em. If it didn't do you know the release date?

Angelos
2003-04-30, 08:21 PM
www.blizzard.com

Go there. It's quicker for you to just freakin visit the site and find out yourself than to come here, ask us, and sit here and wait for a response.

Doobz
2003-04-30, 08:26 PM
and no, it most definitely has not come out yet

FliggenMan
2003-04-30, 08:37 PM
... well i wanted some1s opinion on it if it did, do you think a website is gonna say the game was bad if its a website representing the producers of the software?

LesserShade
2003-04-30, 08:42 PM
^man that would be cool if they did though, it would have save me the money I blew on SoF2

Doobz
2003-04-30, 08:44 PM
then go to an independant site, like gamespot, they have good reviews that i generally agree with

Angelos
2003-04-30, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by LesserShade
^man that would be cool if they did though, it would have save me the money I blew on SoF2

Though the website was lacking, the game was not. I'd be glad to find a better home for your copy.

Hamma
2003-04-30, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by Angelos
www.blizzard.com

Go there. It's quicker for you to just freakin visit the site and find out yourself than to come here, ask us, and sit here and wait for a response. Easy there killer. A link would have been enough, flaming him was not needed.

Angelos
2003-04-30, 10:12 PM
May have come off strong, didn't mean to be that trollish. Sorry.

FliggenMan
2003-04-30, 10:35 PM
np np:D

Warborn
2003-05-01, 12:19 AM
Ghost will kick ass. Blizzard wouldn't allow it to be released if it didn't, as this is their first "new" console game, and therefore their first steps into the market. If they blow it, they ruin their console reputation. If they make a hit, they start getting a reputation akin to their PC game one.

Doobz
2003-05-01, 12:22 AM
Blizzard has never failed me

Dharkbayne
2003-05-01, 12:22 AM
Blizzard, Bioware, and a few others, they CANNOT make a bad game, oh yeah, and Bungie! W00tz0r! Those are like the 3 best developers in the universe, can't remember the others though, but, you gotta agree, they have never made a bad game!

simba
2003-05-01, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Doobz
Blizzard has never failed me
thats good 4 u :( they failed me when they realesed WarCraft3 :( :( .
But yeah blizzard is the best RTS developers there is.
my favourite is the dudes who made Deus Ex, ION STORM, nothing can ever beat that game :drools: Not PS by far.

Dharkbayne
2003-05-01, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by simba
thats good 4 u :( they failed me when they realesed WarCraft3 :( :( .
But yeah blizzard is the best RTS developers there is.
my favourite is the dudes who made Deus Ex, ION STORM, nothing can ever beat that game :drools: Not PS by far.

Ban that mofo! He just dissed PS!! ARGH!

simba
2003-05-01, 01:07 AM
SC:ghost isnt an RTS exactly, more like FPS, I couldent belive it when I saw the trailer, that made me not going 2 buy the game.
Dont know wot SC ghost really.

simba
2003-05-01, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by Dharkbayne
Ban that mofo! He just dissed PS!! ARGH!
try it and u will understand, and then they will bann u 2 :nod:

Doobz
2003-05-01, 01:09 AM
warcraft 3 was great, i don't know why some people have problems with it, i guess they just can't handle change, even if it's for the better

simba
2003-05-01, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by Doobz
warcraft 3 was great, i don't know why some people have problems with it, i guess they just can't handle change, even if it's for the better
again everyones own oppinion, some thought it was change for the worse, like me :)

Dharkbayne
2003-05-01, 01:16 AM
:P :)

Angelos
2003-05-01, 01:35 AM
n00bz all of you.


Blizzard hasn't made a bad game, but they haven't made a BEST game. There are far better RTS games out there made by people who actually tried to change the shape of the genre instead of just making another clone.


Warcraft 3 = prettier version of warcraft 2

C&C Generals = prettier version of C&C

And neither have much depth to the gameplay.

The real RTS games are like Shogun: Total War and Kohan. Those games have more depth, more strategy. Blizzard RTS is about zerging, C&C is about superweapons. Shogun is about more than I can post here. Kohan... well, imagine a fight for a tower in PS, but the tower is your city.

Doobz
2003-05-01, 01:46 AM
well, sometimes strategic depth isn't all there is to an RTS game

blizzard games are very well known for creating entire original universes and having involving and gripping story lines and memorable characters

and WC3 does have a good bit of strategic depth, for more than i care to spend writing out right now

what i'm really waiting for from blizzard right now is World of Warcraft. the game looks great so far and just got better with the anouncement of Night Elves as playable characters :)

Warborn
2003-05-01, 10:51 AM
Angelos:
Warcraft 3 = prettier version of warcraft 2

You obviously have never played Warcraft 3. I'm actually amazed that someone could be so bold as to bash a game they have zero idea on. Who do you think you're fooling here?


Anyway, Kohan is a really fun game. I thoroughly enjoy it and play it off and on to this day. I've never played Shogun, but I have played Midieval, and that wasn't too bad either. However, they are different kinds of games than Warcraft 3, which you haven't played and therefore have no idea about, and Starcraft, which you again have no idea about based on your "they're all about zerging" comment, or C&C Generals, a game which I hate. Warcraft 3 provides a different experience from Kohan or Shogun, and it's stupid to try and compare them. You'd be just as ignorant of the way each game is played if you attempted to compare PlanetSide to Everquest, or even to Counter-strike. They're not the same kind of game. FPS and RPG are big categories, and include all sorts of different play styles. Just because one game falls into the RTS category does not mean that it immidiately occupies a place on some linear chart comparing all RTS games against one another. Some RTS games are a lot more "macro" oriented, focusing on battlefield tactics involving large numbers of guys (Kohan or Shogun, if it's anything like Midieval), while others are of a much smaller scale, focusing on individual unit/Hero interrelations and with a more "micro" approach, as is with Warcraft 3.

So in conclusion, preach your love for Kohan and Shogun as much as it suits you, there's no harm in that. But don't regurgitate stuff you heard someone else say about a game you've never played, or played so briefly that you have no idea how it's meant to be played.

Happy lil Elf
2003-05-01, 03:42 PM
I hate Blizzard. Well let me correct that. Blizzard itself is pretty good, I hate Blizzard fanboys who like to say things like "Blizzard is the most innovative gaming company evah!" or "Blizzard makes the best games, they're so original!".

Blizzard has never once made an original game. What they do is take other peoples idea and make them better. Dune 2 begot Warcraft (well lest say warcraft 2 since the original sucked monkey balls). Diablo[w]? Ever hear of Castle of the Winds? Diablo is exactly like Castle of the Winds, but with pretty graphics.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Blizzard makes bad games, just that the ones they do make are for the most part simply better clones of other peoples games. Quality games? Sure. Original games? No, not quite.

That and Starcraft fanboys....god those people are idiots. Yes starcraft was an amusing game, and that's about it. It was not revolutionary as far as gameplay went. As far as gameplay went is was Warcraft 2 with 3 sides. Revolutionary as far as how many people played in online for an RTS? Maybe. But then I'm of the opinion that RTS is a horrible game model for multiplayer anyway /shrug

ObnoxiousFrog
2003-05-01, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Dharkbayne
oh yeah, and Bungie! W00tz0r!

I was with Bungie back in the Marathon days...
Great company.

EarlyDawn
2003-05-01, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Doobz
Blizzard has never failed me

Very true. It'll be a sad day when a Blizzard game isn't a hit.