Flying

[Saint]

Can you bail out of an aircraft before it is destroyed or before you kamakazi it into a group of soldiers and what is the falling damage, meaning how far can you fall, is it realitic or is it more like Tribes.

[wunghee]

i have no idea............but i really wana bee a pilot. :D

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Yes you can bail out. Your "kinetic dampeners" allow you to absorb the impact of hitting the ground. Do you take any damage? no clue but I guess very little or none at all because of the magical shoes.

[wunghee]

how u make a personal icon like u have?

[BLuE_ZeRO]

the one under my name? you have to become a "Soldier" rank in the forum to do it I believe. You get that by posting 20 posts I think...

[Saint]

You have to be the man

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Oh I guess it's open to recruits as well... just click on the user cp tab at the top and go to edit options and scroll down to the bottom to "change avatar". You can do it from there.

[wunghee]

it says i have none

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Does it allow you to upload one?

refer to this thread:

http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33

[BLuE_ZeRO]

I still think you need to post 20 times before it allows you.

[wunghee]

yea

[wunghee]

it

[wunghee]

says

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Careful hamma doesn't like spamming.

[wunghee]

u

[wunghee]

awwww

[wunghee]

how do u tell if u have enuff?

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Just post for awhile (ON DIFFERENT THREADS) but don't spam and you'll get 20 easily.

BTW Ranks are as follow:

Recruit (Minimum Posts: 0)
Soldier (Minimum Posts: 50)
Veteran (Minimum Posts: 125)
Commander (Minimum Posts: 225)
Admiral (Minimum Posts: 500)
General (Minimum Posts: 900)
l33t Whore (Minimum Posts: 1000)

[Saint]

I got a long ways to go

[wunghee]

:O_O:
u got over 225! wow!

[BLuE_ZeRO]

I have no life :( I choose forum whoring over doing my job so heh I get alot of posts.

[wunghee]

nice.......i mean.......ummm.........gotta go!

[Hamma]

:huh:

Easy with the spam. :D

And yes you can bial out if you want :D

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by Hamma
:huh:

Easy with the spam. :D

And yes you can bial out if you want :D

bial out? Is that like throwing up? Do they have those little bags in the seat pockets?

[Saint]

Hamma, how was the fall damage, does your suit absorb a lot of the damage or does it hurt your life, or armor or stamina or what?

[Hamma]

I never bailed, I got owned too quickly haha

[Whoracle]

will ther be jetpacks?

[�io]

No jetpacks.

The VS MAX will have a limited jumppack and if you fall from plane you have the little gizmos (dynamic thrusters or something) to halt your fall. That's it.

[Hamma]

never ask that question. :lol:

[Whoracle]

no jetpacks? god dammit.

[Whoracle]

so this is gonna be another counterstrike + every other FPS out there mixed with MMORPGS or something?

god dammit

[Sandtaco]

This isn't tribes 2. :p

[Whoracle]

yeah but i was hoping this hybrid MMORPG/FPS

wouldnt be the same as every other FPS...y'know...considering how revolutionary Tribes/T2 was in that case...and the fact it adds so much new depth to skill and gameplay

i was just wondering if it would be included. instead its left out and its just another walkalong fps

[�io]

I like the no jetpack thing. I was kinda sad at first, i loved the jetpack in T2 but no jetpack means more teamwork, a lone MAX can't just jetpack all the way to the enemy base, now he needs to hitch a ride. Stuff like that makes me happy there is no jetpack. :)

[Whoracle]

ok...so they cant cowboy. im assuming the bases are far enough apart that even with a JP it wouldnt be easy...

at least a thrust pack or something to get you airborne would be nice. walking along the ground is just so boring.

it takes less skill to hit a person restricted to ground than someone who is able to move in the air and on the ground.

seems newbified

[Hamma]

This world is huge (when I say huge i mean <b>HUGE</b>) hehe - its all about teamwork. You arent gonna be doing much alone

[�io]

Depends from where you look.

Yeah it's easier to hit someone who can't jet up but if there was a jetpack then the same can be said about the other guy, with his jetpack it's easier to not get hit and just jump away instead of trying to dodge/strafe his way into killing his attacker.

[Whoracle]

Originally posted by Dio
Depends from where you look.

Yeah it's easier to hit someone who can't jet up but if there was a jetpack then the same can be said about the other guy, with his jetpack it's easier to not get hit and just jump away instead of trying to dodge/strafe his way into killing his attacker.
thats where you start seeing skill. same with tribes.

some people could MA, some couldnt. people played and practiced...and over time they got good.

they are able to MA people with discs (rockets or projectile weapons in here) and chainwhore (minigun etc) and snipe moving targets (sniper rifle in here) with ease.

it would distinguish skilled players over people who can simply move along the ground and strafe/fire/time shots.

but i guess they arent exactly looking for the type of crowd that wants it to take time/skill to master.

[Whoracle]

and furthermore....since Hamma said the seperation is HUGE...it wouldnt hurt to have some mild jetpacking abilities anyway

[�io]

Yeah but jetpacks just change the focus of skill from defense to offense.


In the first scenario you have to try to skillfully outmaneuver your attacker with no jetpack.

In the other the attacker has to try to skillfully shoot the guy who is jetpacking everywhere.

Same skill just different area.

[Whoracle]

ok. im not too familiar with "classes" and "armors" as such.

make it an option that a certain (offense based) class/armor can have a jetpack or some other pack instead....

so they would have increased maneuverability but have to sacrifice armor maybe.... and isnt there anti aircraft type weapons/turrets in game or something?

on top of this...that would also lead for a defensive "vanguard" (i hope thats what the frontline troops are called)

the defense would have its own small squad of jetpackers or assorted anti air people to setup in the forefront to intercept the flying enemies.

[Sandtaco]

It's not a jetpack, you're making it seem like you can hover and shit. You can't its more of a boost, very limited. Also you can't alter direction in the air. You must use your momentum.

[Whoracle]

im saying i wish there was. its a shame there isnt a jetpack to do those things

[ft-Marauder]

Then it'd be Tribes 2. :) It already sounds alot like Tribes, I'm glad there's a difference in them.

[Whoracle]

im not.

as it is it sounds like every other FPS that isnt tribes

[Hamma]

Its a little too late to argue about what its going to be, its pretty much hammered out :p

Its certainly not going to be tribes imo.

[Hatte]

If you like tribes so much, go play it =P

[Whoracle]

have been and will continue too.

but i still am for having more movement in the game instead of keeping it like every other FPS known to man

[Hatte]

Wouldn't including jetpacks make it alot more like tribes, which it is close already?
planetside is a new type of game, i'd rather not see it be just a larger scale tribes.

[Whoracle]

but it isnt that new.

its a combination FPS + MMORPG with warfare as the theme (duh)

its been done before. i beta tested a game liek that. FPS + MMORPG. it was fun as fuck but then it went P2P and i got tired of the bugs and bullshit from the players.



and PS is already like 95% of all FPS games out there in the fact that it is restricted to the ground.

[Hatte]

hmm is that so? maybe you should read through this: http://www.planetside-universe.com/content.php?p=sdVehicleInfo

I dunno but a few seem to be air vehicles. But the fact that it is similar to other FPS is in escapable, but on the large scale of things, PS is more like a huge game of risk.

[Whoracle]

i meant for ground troops. if you arent in a vehicle (like in bf1942 etc) you are just confined to the ground. that sucks.

[Hatte]

i think it adds challenges and unique strategies, hiding on top of a building a sniper could do damage yet be safe from most attacks. Also using cover and scouting will be more essiential in PS than any other game i can think of, there aren't small maps that the vets know off by heart, but 10 huge maps that might never be memorized.(hm strayed off topic a bit) back to cover, if you can rush(jetpack) in, over hills or trees in a few seconds what good is cover to the scout or sniper?

[Doobz]

dude, this is supposed to represent combat in a war, not some weird frag competition. the designers want SOME semblence of realism, otherwise the buyer would just be buying a beefed up version of tribes 2 (which SUCKED imo) and paying for it monthly.


JETPACKS SUCK ASS:p

[Hatte]

I agree. we dont need another tribes, xbox has one coming soon tho.

[Whoracle]

so instead settle for beefed up version of every other FPS known to man :confused:

whatever its apparent its not gonna happen but its still silly that not one single type of unit gets something similar.

[Hamma]

T3 is on tis way..

lets stop this jetpack discussion, because there are no jetpacks in PS, and the chances we will see jetpacks in PS are very slim. When they do, then we can talk about it :p

this isnt meant to be tribes or be like tribes, its meant to start a whole new era of gaming.. i am excited to see what happens

[Whoracle]

nazi

[Hamma]

:love:

[Whoracle]

:mad: :confused: :love:

[Hatte]

so instead settle for beefed up version of every other FPS known to man

the FPS genre of games means you play as a combatant in some type of conflict, where you shoot ppl, and the most common type of combatant is infantry, you walk along the ground with a main weapon and some backups and kill other infantry, giving support to large combatants, tanks, planes, ect.

If the PS dev team added jetpacks it would just be a beefed up version of tribes, get over it buddy, wait for the next tribes, i certainly wont.

[Whoracle]

if you bothered reading what i said you would realize i was speaking about one type of "class"

not everyone would have jetpacks and they would have to sacrifice armor or something for the extra maneuverability.

it would add some depth. remove your head from your ass.

[Hamma]

:|

[Whoracle]

it aint my fault

[Myhouse43]

testing my sig :)

[Hatte]

I have my head up my ass how? You are the one continually posting about how the dev team should include jetpacks (to make it more similar to one game), and saying that it is the same as every other game on the market, where really, PS is a new idea, Sure FPS is a popular genre, same with MMORPG's but to combine the two into a feasable game is amasing.

[Whoracle]

like i said. not throughout the whole game. just one class.

and the FPS part ofPS is just like 95% of the other FPS on the market.

and combining FPS/MMORPG has already been done. and its quite fun.

i dont think its been done on such a large scale with so many different classes and customizations per se...and thats cool.

so yes you still have your head in your ass if you still dont realize this

[Hatte]

And how would you prevent PS from becoming another useless FPS clone, sitting on the selves, unsold, then? Noone has done a pure PvP MMOFPS. And you still havent answered they question as to how i have my head up my ass?

[Doobz]

whoracle, by your idea, it would really be that all FPSs are the same.

every fps has the fundamentals, a weapon, and a first person view, and im sure every FPS u walk around and harm your enemies, most of the weapons probly firing a projectile.
how do jetpacks make it anything new and novel? what, they provide transportation and fast action?
well, we already have vehicles like the skeeter to serve the purpose of transportation and weapons platforms, and as far as action, the action will be as fast as the devs want it, which looks like its just fast enough to be fun and slow enough to allow for strategy.

so stop whining about how the game is

[Archonxvi]

I can understand your concerns, although I would like to ask you why, exactly, we need a jetpack when we have VTOL aircraft? This is an honest question, as I am attempting to make this "session" somewhat productive. You stated that the speed would be useful in taking out incoming aircraft, and in order to gain this ability, you would have to sacrifice defense. I have played tribes before, I know how the jetpacks there work, and I understand why you say it takes more skill, because in the end it does. (comparing shooting two ground only people to two people w/ jetpacks) But one thing at a time. What is it that jetpacks would do that aircraft can not?

[BLuE_ZeRO]

lol damn whoracle took you less than a day to get soldier.

[Sandtaco]

:spam: :spam: I coulda done it too but :p

[BLuE_ZeRO]

took me a few days to get commander =|

[Sandtaco]

Its because you're a l337 forum whore :rolleyes:

[BLuE_ZeRO]

yes... it's true.

[Doobz]

this is a l337 speak test, this is a l337 speak test, please stand by:

1 4m l337 4c3

1 4m l337 4c3

1 4m l337 4c3

Thank you, we will now return to your regularly scheduled bickering.

[�io]

Originally posted by Doobz
this is a l337 speak test, this is a l337 speak test, please stand by:

1 4m l337 4c3

1 4m l337 4c3

1 4m l337 4c3

Thank you, we will now return to your regularly scheduled bickering. :huh:

Wha...






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[Whoracle]

i reply to whatever i feel like replying to and too often that is too much

[BLuE_ZeRO]

I tend to have that same problem :(

[Whoracle]

that sucks. sortof

[TG_NightHawk]

Well, are you going to reply to Archonxvi's question to resolve your jetpack problem or not? Can't beat a dead horse anyway, which is where the jetpack idea was going, not gonna happen!!:rolleyes:

[Whoracle]

maneuverability and concealment.

its easier to spot a vehicle than it is a person. that person can use the ground or the air to attack. they will be harder to spot initially....and easier to lose track of in the heat of battle...

and they are more maneuverable. quick changing of firing direction etc...


its apparent it wont be included but maybe its something for an expansion. who knows. it adds a bit more depth

[Hatte]

/me beats the damn horse one last time

What good would a jetpacker do in combat, most likely be anti infantry, correct? but there are other anti-infantry craft, either MAX or the assault buggy's, which have gunner positions.

So in battle either A) your lightly armored jetpacking ass will get mowed down by the enemies anti-infantry craft. or B) your heavier anti-infantry craft will tear apart the enemy infantry faster than you can.

the only things i can see a jetpack being useful for is snipers, reaching better sniper positions, but isnt that what a mosqitoe(sp?) is for? or for lone wolves, taking on other lone wolves w/ the advantage of mobility. But that isnt the purpose of the game, you should fight in groups to achive objectives, rather than dm'ing quake style.

[Whoracle]

you make it sound like there will be a vehicle every 50sq feet in game to rip shit up.

theres bases to be taken and held....and there arent always gonna be vehicles around when you need them...is all im saying.

vehicles wont last forever and they wont be everywhere. thats why you would have alternatives.

and like i said....increaded maneuverability and such.

one person controlling their movement/aim in some situations is better than one guy driving and one guy trying to shoot

[EineBeBoP]

Hmmm interesting discussion....

Rocket booster super packs would be fun, but I think the bigger challenge is having to use trees for cover, and while packs would be nice, I had enough of that in T2, and I dont want packs being used in every game now, I hope that boosters stay as a T2 original/exclusive.

[EineBeBoP]

Must.... become...

[EineBeBoP]

SOLDIER!!!!!!!!
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[BLuE_ZeRO]

Jetpacks don't have to be in every game but it sort of would make more sense to have them in this game since the maps are so big. Either way I don't mind but it would be more convenient to have a jetpack. :D

[EineBeBoP]

lol

apparentally im not the only person whos checking these forums during class/work time :p


yes, not all games were made for jetpacks, this is 1 of the few than can go either way.

I personally hope that PS has NO jetpaks

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Yeah what else am I supposed to do? work? hah! :lol:

[Hamma]

Originally posted by EineBeBoP
SOLDIER!!!!!!!!

You have a bunch more posts to do. I dont reccomend making friends with :spam: to get there.

It only leads to the dark side.

[Zatrais]

stranded?

beeing stranded is not an option! of you jump out of the vehicle before it blows then fight to your death! taking a step backwards is treason =P

dead people can't use jetpacks... so no need for them hehe

[ft-Marauder]

Could always add rollerskates, like in Heavy Gear 2.

[ZonemaN]

Most ps fant dont want JP not cause it is a bad thing (in tribes) but BC they dont want that cind of gameplay i do NOT want to se any other thhan the VS max make a jump in the air and sertanly not in a tribes mater.

[�io]

Well i hope (and assume) you can jump no matter what (well except MAXs) but i just don't wanna see jetpacks. :)

[Whoracle]

im not sure i could follow what zoneman typed....it seemed to be missing a few ,'s and .'s

[Led]

Jetpacks would promote solo play, completely annihilating the concept of this game.

And if you could use a jetpack, who would want to use anything else? Just as in tribes 2, no one uses any other armors except for base raping or maybe defense. If you want to fight at all, you get a light armor and an energy pack, there is simply no other way.

The designers wanted to create a game in which every single combination would have all kinds of uses. Who needs a tank or a reaver to take out opposing armor when someone in a cheap old jetpack could do a better job, buzzing around and tossing rockets?

This game has been very well designed, in my opinion. You COULD go out solo, and get around just fine on your quadbike, and blast a few people before getting run down by a larger group. Or you could join a larger squad, and go off and do something dynamic ^_^

Tribes 2 seems like a pretty horrible comparison to PS to me. All you could do in that game was either cap, or sit on your butt and defend. If you said you were an antivehicle specialist or a demolitions expert, people would just laugh at you and call you a newb :( However, there are sooooo many roles to fill in PS, very few people will become adept at them all, and most of the playerbase will be perfectly happy specializing in one role and becoming well known for it. I for one would choose the one MAX pilot that everyone knows and respects over the l33t idiot that comes stomping along and says "OMG OMG I KAN mAXor and HAXXOR and CIRLCE-STRAEF!?@"

:domotwak: :domotwak: :domotwak: :domotwak:

:angel:

[Whoracle]

honestly. please read the thread before you reply.

its been stated several times that it wont happen. i was just pointing out some things that could be done.

had you taken time to read the thread, you would have noticed that it was never said that it would be like a Tribes jetpack that would send you hovering about all over the place for long periods of time...


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that being said, its pretty obvious by your comments on the gameplay of T2 that you

A) suck at T2
B) never played competitively
C) suck playing comp
D) have never played the game

[�io]

Originally posted by Whoracle
honestly. please read the thread before you reply.

its been stated several times that it wont happen. i was just pointing out some things that could be done.

had you taken time to read the thread, you would have noticed that it was never said that it would be like a Tribes jetpack that would send you hovering about all over the place for long periods of time...


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that being said, its pretty obvious by your comments on the gameplay of T2 that you

A) suck at T2
B) never played competitively
C) suck playing comp
D) have never played the game

Umm... i don't even know where to start so i'll just say this

:rolleyes:

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Everyone is making way too big of a deal out of jetpacks. It's not like they're going to implement them anyways but everyone still seems to want to argue about it. The only team concept in the game that might even be hurt would be the need for a transport pilot. Even in tribes you still need to play as a team if you want to win. Jetpack didn't ruin that at all. If you think going off by yourself in a game is going to achieve anything you're going to get owned. Jetpacks aren' t a neccesity but they might be a welcome addition on some armors, not all but some.

[Whoracle]

Originally posted by Dio
Umm... i don't even know where to start so i'll just say this

:rolleyes:
say something poncho, you obviously have something witty or insightful to add so do it

[Sandtaco]

I believe someone has said a little too much :rolleyes:

[Whoracle]

you dont mean me do you. say it aint so :(

[Led]

Originally posted by Whoracle
that being said, its pretty obvious by your comments on the gameplay of T2 that you

A) suck at T2
B) never played competitively
C) suck playing comp
D) have never played the game

That being said, it is pretty obvious by your comments so far that you:

A) Are 14 years old.
B) Think you are Gods gift to the forums.
C) Think that every single post is a direct assault on your precious fragile ego.
D) Think that anyone even gives any credit to the junk you spew :P~

Thank you, drive through.

[Sandtaco]

No offense but those things bout T2 shouldn't have been said.

[Whoracle]

1. No
2. yes
3. yes
4. yes

[Whoracle]

actually. they needed to. from the comments he was making...he obviously hasn't played the game much at all, or isnt very good at it, based on what he said.

it would be like me (i dont play EQ) saying: All EQ is is just running around looking for clothes and quaffing potions and shooting lightning bolts at hobbits.

[Whoracle]

what i tried to convery...ineffectively and somewhat rashly :) at the start was that it would be kinda cool to have jetpacks.

NOT TRIBES 2 FLY ACROSS THE MAP IN 2 BOUNDS AND STAY INT HE AIR FOR 15 SECONDS jetpacks....but simple booster style packs that could let you leave the ground for minimal periods of time....

allowing some more maneuverability to certain attack squads. they would have more vulnerabilities for the added movement.

it was just an idea.

then people came in with OMG we Cant HANVE THat THIs ISNT T2 We AREnt FLyING oveer THE MAP WE NEed TEAMp[alY

[Led]

SHE was making HER comments based upon public play. Sure, it is much different in clan and tourney play, but how many casual players got into that?

PS will be very appealing to casual players, in my opinion, because top tier gameplay will not be restricted to clans and tourney alone.

And if you cannot agree with that, apparently you never played on public servers very much :P~ The best 'teamplay' I could ever get out of those was rarely getting a bomber crew together. Of course, 90% of the time, the idiot bombardier would instantly drop bombs when he hopped in, killing everyone around him and destroying the bomber I worked so hard to get off the pad and away from the vehicle TKers :p

[Sandtaco]

Oh, and Whoracle... :spam: :spam: :spam: :spam: :spam: There is an edit button you know? Use it!

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Originally posted by Led
SHE was making HER comments based upon public play. Sure, it is much different in clan and tourney play, but how many casual players got into that?

PS will be very appealing to casual players, in my opinion, because top tier gameplay will not be restricted to clans and tourney alone.

And if you cannot agree with that, apparently you never played on public servers very much :P~ The best 'teamplay' I could ever get out of those was rarely getting a bomber crew together. Of course, 90% of the time, the idiot bombardier would instantly drop bombs when he hopped in, killing everyone around him and destroying the bomber I worked so hard to get off the pad and away from the vehicle TKers :p

Actually alot of players got into competition. PS is a very competative game for completely different reasons than tribes. Since we don't have matches in PS we need other ways to satisfy that part of us. Attacking and capturing bases will have to suffice so why not make it interesting. Jetpacks or (quick boosters like the Vanu MAX) would. :rawr:

[Whoracle]

Originally posted by Sandtaco
Oh, and Whoracle... :spam: :spam: :spam: :spam: :spam: There is an edit button you know? Use it!
did you really need to post that?

probably not. because it wont affect me responding to people with the reply button anyway.

i had nothing to edit so why use the edit button

[Sandtaco]

Those three posts in a row up there could have asily been edited into one.

[Led]

Skilled jetpack infantry would have much higher mobility than any regular infantry, yes? Even if it was only a quick burst for a second or two, people would of course find ways to fight that would yield maximum advantage from it. The way I see it, jetpack infantry would own any other kind of infantry. The only counter to jetpackers would be other jetpackers. Who would want to play the only antitank d00d only to get wasted by a dozen people with jetpacks?

[Whoracle]

did you ever think that maybe i dont see the replies until i finish posting my reply to a single post?

why go back and have to open multiple windows to edit/copy/paste one into the original....then do it again for the second.

* upon examination i didnt need to hit reply to answer LED...so my bad *

but the other one i didnt see til after i posted

[Sandtaco]

I agree, JPs would only ruin what the DEVs have created in this MMOFPS.

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Well I disagree but that's the nature of this place we call the interweb. :D

[Whoracle]

Originally posted by Led
Skilled jetpack infantry would have much higher mobility than any regular infantry, yes? Even if it was only a quick burst for a second or two, people would of course find ways to fight that would yield maximum advantage from it
GASP!! you mean get good at the game and use the items affectively? you dont say! :eek: *now for serious response*

isnt that the point of the game. to use your items to the fullest capability?


The way I see it, jetpack infantry would own any other kind of infantry. The only counter to jetpackers would be other jetpackers.
i was under the impression there is all sorts of anti air weaponry

Who would want to play the only antitank d00d only to get wasted by a dozen people with jetpacks?
so limit the amount available. it can be a specialist equipment.


and as ive said before...they could sacrifice armor for their mobility...and that being said...maybe to limit their weight...they could only carry one or 2 weapons...and they couldnt be heavy weapons like a rocket launcher or so.

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some of you are reading way too deep into this. its not meant to be some Uber pack that will render the game completely unbalanced. with its introduction, their would be limits on its uses, and their would be equal balances to defend against them.

[Led]

Antiair weapons, yes, but the idea was to only have the jetpack for quick bursts, right? Antiair weapons would not really come into play if they never reached a decent altitude.

Uber or not, jetpack troops would have an advantage over all regular infantry. It comes again to 'why would anyone want to play anything but a jetpacker?' Of course, you could say the same thing about vehicles, but that has the balance of vehicles being unable to go inside buildings, and regular infantry does have its uses.

Limiting the amount of jetpacks would not be a good idea if they implement them. Then we would get llamas grabbing them and going afk for a few hours, just to tick people off. Or even worse yet, people TKing each other to get the chance to spawn one.

[Whoracle]

Originally posted by Led
Antiair weapons, yes, but the idea was to only have the jetpack for quick bursts, right? Antiair weapons would not really come into play if they never reached a decent altitude.
so use your automatic rifles and snipers and shotguns....decreased armor...easier to kill....just spray and lead and you have dead jpers

Uber or not, jetpack troops would have an advantage over all regular infantry. It comes again to 'why would anyone want to play anything but a jetpacker?' Of course, you could say the same thing about vehicles, but that has the balance of vehicles being unable to go inside buildings, and regular infantry does have its uses.
you half answered your own question. there is a balance. vehicles cant go indoors. etc.

jpers wont have very good armor and will be easier to kill. they also wouldnt be able to carry the same amount of weapons/ammo or heavier weapons b/c they cant weigh a ton if they want to fly

Limiting the amount of jetpacks would not be a good idea if they implement them. Then we would get llamas grabbing them and going afk for a few hours, just to tick people off. Or even worse yet, people TKing each other to get the chance to spawn one.
you make it sound like this wont happen with vehicles...which im positive that if it happens with the JPs, it will with vehicles.

and once again...not everyone will want a JP. its not gonna be an uber pack....and there will be downsides (aforementioned) to being a JPer that would put people off to being them. only the people serious about it will want to be it.

its just like vehicles. everyone loves to shoot guns. but who just wants to drive around and not get to shoot??? theres a special breed out there that love to pilot and will do so. just like there would be that special crew out there that would give up their weapons to be able to perform the special role of Jper

[wunghee]

U GUYS ARENT EVEN TALKIN ABOUT IF THERE IS JETPACKS ANY MORE SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!:mad:

[Sandtaco]

woah, calm the hell down hoss.

[wunghee]

lol
sorry oops:

[Led]

Originally posted by wunghee
U GUYS ARENT EVEN TALKIN ABOUT IF THERE IS JETPACKS ANY MORE SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!:mad:

Open gameplay forum, we can talk about whatever we want, go away :P~

[Whoracle]

yeah this has finally degenerated into an actual conversation so shut your trap newblood

[Archonxvi]

If the cloaking suit did not exist in this game, one could easily respond to its addition by using the exact same comments you are making. However, cloaking is balanced though exteme weakness and the inability to carry virtually any weaponry. I would think that something similar could be done for a jetpack.

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Yeah I think I said that earlier... Just balance out anything you add into the game. Not easy but hey making games isn't always easy :P~

[Whoracle]

Originally posted by Archonxvi
If the cloaking suit did not exist in this game, one could easily respond to its addition by using the exact same comments you are making. However, cloaking is balanced though exteme weakness and the inability to carry virtually any weaponry. I would think that something similar could be done for a jetpack.
case in point. i coulda argue all day long how lame cloaking is...and how newbies will all be running around cloaked and not doing anything and how its overpowered... etc

im not saying put a JP in game...but its an idea...it could be something for an expansions... its not all that terrible if you have an accurate depiction of what it would be like

(aka just dont think about Tribes/Tribes2)

[BLuE_ZeRO]

I want some water combat damnit!

[Led]

I do think that jetpack infantry with a little limited boost to just get over walls, just like the Vanu MAX does would be a nifty idea. Just no DMey stuff :(

[BLuE_ZeRO]

I want boats! I want boats! :nazi: :rawr:

[Led]

They have boats in BF1942... honestly, how many people use them? They make great artillery, but only when used correctly (funny! :D), so pretty much the only thing boats are good for are taking out other boats.

I think it would dilute the game too much, spread out the playerbase over an already huge battlefield :)

[BLuE_ZeRO]

The boats in BF1942 are horrible. Make something like in bloodwake. Fast gun boats that make for incredible water battles. BF1942 boats are slow, hard to maneuver and very very very very gay! :nazi: :rawr:

[Whoracle]

this is primarily ground based warfare...or land based i should say

and vehicles to accent the battle but everything starts and ends on LAND. boats would just not work

*edit* bloodwake? jesus....then i want some Twisted Metal vehicles :lol:

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Hell yeah! I call the ice creme truck!

[Led]

I call the front end loader :D

[Whoracle]

i got MINION

[BLuE_ZeRO]

bzump! :rawr:

[EineBeBoP]

Well, this has turned into an interesting conversation. and all in the few hours I was at school.

HuZZaha!

[BLuE_ZeRO]

:D

[Whoracle]

it actually turned into a decent convo

[EineBeBoP]

'tis a christmas miracle... an early 1

[BLuE_ZeRO]

We turn senseless topics into decent conversations but we turn decent topics into... well you saw the threads lol :rawr: :lol:

[EineBeBoP]

you make good point blue, hmmm... let us sit and ponder.....





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what were we thinking about again?

[BLuE_ZeRO]

I forgot... :(

[Hamma]

This spam and hijacking of threads will have to stop..

[Unregistered]

Indeed.

[Navaron]

Jeez no wonder you guys are frikkin commanders and admirals and stuff and I'm a lowly recruit *sigh....still*.

[BLuE_ZeRO]

I agree. (with hamma and unreg)

Hey for the most part my posts contribute to the threads. Some of the threads today were an exception but that's because they got hijacked before I got there :(

[Hatte]

Woah, doubled the size of this thread in a few hours, kinda off topic too. =o Maybe its time to lock it?

[Unregistered]

I guess it's the genral nature of forums to go off topic from time to time, but lot's of folks that post here want a forum that is strictly for disscussion of about the game.

That's why the Lounge was created. For anything and everything you want to post about. Out here we'd like things to be about PS as much as possible, because beleave it or not when people first come to the site they are looking for info about the game.

[EineBeBoP]

sure blue... blame it on other ppl. eh? Good Idea!

heh it was that guy! he ran into my room, hacked my comp. so i couldnt use it for 15 min. then posted as me and ran away! the SOB is still on the loose careful all!

[wunghee]

yea.........vote on my poll is Tom gay?

[EineBeBoP]

who b tom?

[BLuE_ZeRO]

hey cmon I didn't screw the thread up... right away... this started out as a serious thread but just sort of drifted off. I just let it drift :lol:

[EineBeBoP]

Originally posted by BLuE_ZeRO
hey cmon I didn't screw the thread up... right away... this started out as a serious thread but just sort of drifted off. I just let it drift :lol:

lol well, im not complaining... yet... anyone know how I can check how many posts I have?

[BLuE_ZeRO]

You can always ask an admin. Hamma took out the post counter because people were abusing it.

[EineBeBoP]

How would I go about doing that? hamma is admin correct? is he watching this forum? is he watching ME?AHH! ther're everywhere! SPYS! RUN AWAY!


/me runs and hides in the corner


hamma if you see this, mind PMing me about my post count? thanks :D

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Post it in the lounge or something... this isn't the best place to post that. Say Hamma! how many posts do I have? and he'll either say how many you have or "DIE! I'm not your post counter!"

[EineBeBoP]

rgr dat thanks blue :D

[BLuE_ZeRO]

np :D

[Hamma]

I think this thread has run its course, nice job tho blue :p

Keep posts as much on topic as possible or they will become breeders of spam, then locked. :)