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Navaron
2002-12-17, 08:50 PM
Seriously,

What is it that is keeping the NC rercuit base down? (According to that poll) What is it that is making them less appealing? I know the Vanu guys really like the tech. What's making the NC less appealing to the masses? Is it colors? Could it be the shot guns? People think they have no long range weapons? Let's keep most of the comments above the belt . I'm curious. Don't bring up the rocket scientist geeks who are posting the queef code.

Thanks

Nav

(I posted this over on the official site also)

diluted
2002-12-17, 09:00 PM
i dunno why. NC have no downsides it seems and even their story is better imo. i personally am going to be NC right off the bat then experiment from there.

�io
2002-12-17, 09:04 PM
Well a lot of people don't like slow powerful guns over the rest.(me for one, shotguns are ok but i prefer nearly any other gun. :p)

Some don't like their backstory. (me again, getting freedom by crushing others isn't the best thing)

And those colors aren't the snaziest. :p


In short it's simply a matter of personal choice, some like them others don't. :)

Camping Carl
2002-12-17, 09:06 PM
You guys take the poll to seriously, they aren't down that far. They'll be back up, believe me.

zMessiahz
2002-12-17, 09:12 PM
Those polls don't mean a whole lot anyways. I would guess that 75% or more of the people who will play the game either A. Haven't heard of it yet or B. Don't want to waste time reading about it until its released.

Navaron
2002-12-17, 09:17 PM
I should have clarified, I know that the poll isn't scientific, but it is interesting that they are behind. I immediately picked them. I just wonder what it is that is keeping people from jumping on the bandwagon. Just curious. I know most of the people flooding the forums now and in the next few months won't have a clue. There should be a fact site, with *proven* facts about each Faction. That would be cool. I know there is sorta stuff like that, but it would be "nooberific".


NAV

Don't Tread On Me I'm NC

Unregistered
2002-12-17, 09:25 PM
I had a tough time picking between the NC and TR. I really like the Judge Dread look of the NC, but in the end the High ROF of the TR guns won me over.

diluted
2002-12-17, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by Unregistered
but in the end the High ROF of the TR guns won me over.


noooooo rof w/ lower dmg = bad ! :nono:

Hatte
2002-12-17, 09:49 PM
I chose the Vanu because they seemed very offensive to me, which is my style of play. The NG seem like very strong defenders, opposite to my style, and the TR, well they are just communists. =P

Whoracle
2002-12-17, 09:59 PM
Terrans sounds like they will look the coolest (camo-wise)

Vanu is a cooler name.

Dragoon412
2002-12-17, 10:33 PM
Well... TR troops look fairly cool, seem to pack massive firepower, and are portrayed in a way that they seem rather balanced.

And say what you want about the purple, but VS troops have great-looking armor, unique weapons, and seem oriented towards mobility and flexibility.

Meanwhile, what's the NC have? Ugliest armor in the game? Check. Ugliest colors? Check. An entirely one-dimensional playing style? Check.

Don't get me wrong, I have every intention of playing NC, because that single dimension of play style they'll offer appeals to me, but I'll really pine for the VS mobility advantage (especially since I want so badly to play a jump trooper).

Personally, I just have this feeling that most of the servers are going to see the TR and NC forming some sort of unofficial alliance against the overly-populated VS. I mean, is there any doubt that all those damned 1337 kiddies are going to flock to the VS after release?

"wtf d00d tr sux u shud play vanu we hav nrg bullentz!111"

BLuE_ZeRO
2002-12-17, 10:37 PM
Polls give a general idea of what the public thinks and so far looks like TR is going to be the bigger populated one. I don't think people are going to go straight to Vanu because for some reason they see purple and think "OMG gay color! I'm going to be the r337 black and red" 3/4 of the people are basing their choice on empire by what the colors of the armors are.

diluted
2002-12-17, 10:37 PM
.. ok screw you and your opinions nc basher guy >:P


oh and are you sure about that? it doesnt sound correct "choosing because of color" im sure people arent THAT ignorant. especially the ones willing to pay monthly for a fps game. not just casual gamers will do that ya know.

Whoracle
2002-12-17, 10:38 PM
no SCREW YOU SIR

diluted
2002-12-17, 10:40 PM
NO SCREW YOU, IN FLAMES LOVER ><


(the band. if ive made a mistake my apologies)

Whoracle
2002-12-17, 10:43 PM
YOU SIR WILL DIE

Nobody insults pre-Clayman era In Flames and lives.

Dragoon412
2002-12-17, 10:47 PM
Holy crap, Whoracle, is your sig designed to weed-out the epileptic among us? :p

And diluted, I think you overestimate the intelligence of the average gamer. ;)

Whoracle
2002-12-17, 10:48 PM
if im paying for a game...and im not sure i will

you better believe im gonna look like a pimp when i play

Doobz
2002-12-17, 10:53 PM
r337=reet

what's reet?

Whoracle
2002-12-17, 10:58 PM
its the real version of "leet"

stupid asians couldnt pronounce it and kept saying "leet"

and since so many of them game it just became accepted

Strygun
2002-12-17, 10:58 PM
reet = elite in a stupid form =)

Dragoon412
2002-12-17, 11:00 PM
r33t = 1337 for people who speak Engrish? :p

*shrugs*

They had r33ts and 1337s in AO... those things were hilarious.

�io
2002-12-18, 12:41 AM
My vision of things.

TR: Very cool RoF. Ok vehicles. Ok armors. Ok backstory

NC: Very nice damage up close. Ok vehicles. Bad backstory. Ugly armors.

VS: Very nice mobility. Very cool armors. Cool vehicles. Good backstory.

The population?

1st TR:30-40%
2nd NC:25-35%
3rd VS:20-30%

Hatte
2002-12-18, 01:02 AM
I tend agree with you Dio, but I think we're both biased, if the vanu are so good, as you raised no negative points, there would be alot more people playing them.

�io
2002-12-18, 01:07 AM
Well yeah probably.

My opinion of the armors and vehicles is far from being the general concensus. Most think the VS have "gay purple" armor and ugly hover buggies. I do not. :)

And the VS have negative points i just didn't mention them because we do not yet know how negative they will be. We know they will have less armor than the other 2 factions but how much less? And we don't know what the damage and RoF will be either.

In short as usual we will as to wait and see when the game arrives.... *sigh* man this game is taking time to get here. :p

Saint
2002-12-18, 02:16 AM
Dio, here is my take on things.

NC = The freedom fighters. Very high damage with slower rate of fire. Decent mobility. Their colors are alright and their armors are decent looking. The only downside is that their empire specific weapons have short range, but they have have very good armor with shields.

NC if you like to blow shit up.

TR = The tyrannical empire. Low damage with fast rate of fire. Decent mobility. Their colors are awesome, but those damn goggles make the armors look super gay. The only downside is thier terrible damage for how many bullets they can throw at you, but at least they have decent armor.

TR if you like to fill things full of holes.

VS = The wannabe aliens. Moderate damage with moderate rate of fire. Good Mobility. Thier colors are pretty funky, but their armors look so sweet. Their only downside is that all of thier energy weapons make it imposible to be a lucrative killer with purple and green beams flying everywhere and thier lack of armor.

VS if you like anal probing and you are anti-human, heh.

Whoracle
2002-12-18, 02:18 AM
i think ill be NC if i get the game.

i thoroughly enjoy blowing shit up and going on killing sprees

Saint
2002-12-18, 02:20 AM
I am gonna start a new thread with a poll to see if people agree with me.

Whoracle
2002-12-18, 02:27 AM
oht hats where ive seent his...or where ive seent hat

Hatte
2002-12-18, 04:28 AM
VS if you like anal probing and you are anti-human, heh.

Well I have always played the non-human races in games.. but for anal probing.. C'MERE BIG BOY! ;) :p

Corbie
2002-12-18, 04:56 AM
well i wouldnt be surprised if part of whats keeping people from NC is the lame RPing going on on the NC forums.

ive got nothing against RPing..but thats not exactly what I would call alot of the posts on the NC boards.. alot of them are like poorly written comic books.. which is pretty bad :P.. considering that comics books are so corny they make me wanna puke sometimes...the NC posts are WORSE than that.

�io
2002-12-18, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by Saint
but those damn goggles make the armors look super gay.

(...)

VS if you like anal probing and you are anti-human, heh.

Well there's a mature and unbiased description if i ever heard one. :lol:

Whoracle
2002-12-18, 03:50 PM
iiiiiiiiiii want it theeeee GAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY WAAAYYY


TELL ME WHYYYEEEEE

�io
2002-12-18, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Whoracle
iiiiiiiiiii want it theeeee GAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY WAAAYYY


TELL ME WHYYYEEEEE :spam: :nono:

Whoracle
2002-12-18, 04:20 PM
how is that spam. i stated the faction im thinking of joining.

:rolleyes:

Zarparchior
2002-12-18, 04:29 PM
Spam, spam, spam!

BAN HIM! BAN THE SPAMMER! :p;)

Led
2002-12-18, 04:52 PM
I actually prefer the look of the NC armor. The goggles on TC do not look that great to me, and the Vanu armor just rubs me the wrong way. I just like the general futuristic look of the NC armor, call me geek :D

Plus the weaponry appeals to me. I love using shotguns in online games, nothing beets the feeling of wasting a l33t sniper with a hail of buckshot from two feet :rawr:. The high power, fewer shot philosophy also fits well with my playstyle, I tend to pick my shots more than spray and pray.

Then again, I could be totally off, and completely hate them after only five minutes of play. We will only know when it ships :D

I can only hope I can get this thing within a week of release for once. Amazon = teh suq for getting crap shipped on time.

BLuE_ZeRO
2002-12-18, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Led
call me geek :D


GEEK! :D but seriously the Vanu looks about 50x more futuristic than any of the other armors so I dunno... it's all about personal tastes though so no big deal.

Whoracle
2002-12-18, 04:55 PM
the goggles do make the Terrans look kinda gay....but their colors are badass..

the Vanu look badass fromt he start, despite the purple colors.

and the NC...well....they just have bright guady colors. if they were diff colors they would look much cooler

BLuE_ZeRO
2002-12-18, 05:02 PM
Yeah NC might look cool with diff colors and well... a complete armor revamp. Their armors are just really ugly, especially the MAXs.

Sandtaco
2002-12-18, 05:05 PM
The TR MAX looks so damn crappy. I think it's the whole large helmet thing.

Flashingfish
2002-12-18, 05:05 PM
Firstly: I really don't understand why people are bitching about colours. Who really gives a damn? You're not going to be ogling your mates while you play, you're going to be shooting the enemy. And if you really cared that much, you'd play a different empire to the one you want to be, so you can look at the armours more :p

And even though the NC have less numbers, do you honestly think each and every one of them will be equal in skill? And will they all be playing at the same time? I think not. As long as there is around 30-40% of each empire, it will be very fair.

Whoracle
2002-12-18, 05:08 PM
if im paying to play this game each month i better be kicking ass in Style

BLuE_ZeRO
2002-12-18, 05:11 PM
I agree whoracle. Fish you do realize the #1 reason behind almost anyones choice for an empire is the colors and what they look like. Why do you think TR is winning? It's not because they have a fast rate of fire. I bet about 1/2 of the people that chose TR don't know anything about any of the empires, they just chose it because the color scheme is a good one. Frankly I think the purple is cooler but black/silver/red is still damn cool. NC...well... it has Blue I'll give them that but it just doesn't work well with the yellow. :rawr:

Whoracle
2002-12-18, 05:17 PM
when it boils down to it people just wanna look good.

in games where its not about accessorizing (ala EQ and other MMORPGs) and getting the most powerful unique equipment....

people just wanna look good. thats why you see custom skins...new player models added in games...etc

Zarparchior
2002-12-18, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Led
I actually prefer the look of the NC armor. The goggles on TC do not look that great to me, and the Vanu armor just rubs me the wrong way. I just like the general futuristic look of the NC armor, call me geek :DI disagree. :(

Plus the weaponry appeals to me. I love using shotguns in online games, nothing beets the feeling of wasting a l33t sniper with a hail of buckshot from two feet :rawr:. The high power, fewer shot philosophy also fits well with my playstyle, I tend to pick my shots more than spray and pray.I agree! :)

People say the goggles look "gay" but WTF is wrong with you guys? The goggles are thousands of times better than yet another visor wearing empire. :rawr:

I simply cannot believe that people agree with me on the NC. I don't like their armor style one bit. The colors are :confused: but the models are :ugh:.

The Vanu just look leet. Hands down. I never argued that. :D

Of course, that is what makes the world go' round: opinions! So we can argue until PS comes out if we want to, but we won't change each other's opinions. That is why I say...

:spam: :spam: :spam:

Led
2002-12-18, 05:52 PM
N00bs! You are all n00bs!


















But wait, so am I!
:cheers: