A few more questions!

[Led]

One question has been bothering me for quite a while:

How well 'connected' are you to the ground in this game? For example, in BF1942, it felt as if I was sliding around on ice sometimes. And if anyone has ever played Endless Ages (UGH), there was almost no feeling of being grounded at all.

And secondly, another flight model question:

I have read that the model is going to be akin to helicopters/vtol aircraft. Is it going to be akin to T2 (sorry!) where the only way to control your altitude was via the booster key, or will there also be Z axis controls?

[Whoracle]

rofl HOLY SHIT you played Endless Ages???

i stopped playing a while ago but goddamn i played for a few months and helped bring it into GOLD mode.

hahaha that game was fun until everyone starting using exploits and the bugs kept piling up

[Jinxmasta]

Hamma has statedthe flight model feels very much like T2 (which is NOT a good thing). Hopefully later on they can make it more advanced and realistic so we can do more advanced manuevers.

[Led]

Nono, that is not a flight model question. More of a flight controls question. Will I be able to hover up and down of my own free will, or will I have to buzz around to get some speed to fly up?

PS: Endless ages was CRAP!@# I got sick of that game after ten minutes.

[Whoracle]

Originally posted by Jinxmasta
Hamma has statedthe flight model feels very much like T2 (which is NOT a good thing). Hopefully later on they can make it more advanced and realistic so we can do more advanced manuevers.
please explain how making it more realistic would lead to advanced maneuvers

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Originally posted by Led
Nono, that is not a flight model question. More of a flight controls question. Will I be able to hover up and down of my own free will, or will I have to buzz around to get some speed to fly up?

PS: Endless ages was CRAP!@# I got sick of that game after ten minutes.

Well considering you can take off from a stand still I think you'll be able to go up and down without speed.

[Led]

Immelemans, split-s, barrel rolls, flying upside down five feet off the deck while your passengers are screaming... :D

Aye, you could do some of that stuff in T2, but only through some real work. I always hated not having a roll key or the ability to invert whenever I wanted and stay that way.

[Whoracle]

when did you play Endless Ages?

after it went gold. or while it was still beta? and what beta did you play during?

that could make all the difference in the amount of fun you had. it had a learning curve and it wasnt easy for newbies.

but once you got powerful it was all manner of fun...until bugs and stuff and some assholes joined the game and kidna ruined it

[Led]

Some beta a few months before it went gold. The graphics were horrid, the controls were awful, and I did not feel connected to my environment at all. The game just had no style.

[Whoracle]

ahh well. i had plenty of fun. back on topic tho.

does rolling even do anything at all? other than looking pretty it doesnt seem like it would serve much purpose

[afex]

Originally posted by Led
Aye, you could do some of that stuff in T2, but only through some real work. I always hated not having a roll key or the ability to invert whenever I wanted and stay that way.

you're contradicting yourself now.

you just said its hard to do in t2, which means you need skill to do it. you just want a button you can press and it does it for you?

[BLuE_ZeRO]

No in T2 it was almost impossible to do those maneuvers on a regular basis. I think that's what Led's getting at.

[Whoracle]

in T2 you could boost yourself straight up.

but doing barrel rolls was impossible. and flying upside down was damn enar impossible and could only be done from a short period of time...

the only thing you could do with a LARGE area of space was a flip...and you needed some good heigh to do so.

[afex]

Originally posted by Whoracle
and flying upside down was damn enar impossible and could only be done from a short period of time...


not true.

it just takes practice.

[Led]

You could never do a straight roll in t2. Shrikes could do loops, and I could pull off an immeleman in a bomber, but that was about it.

And yes, you should be able to roll just by pushing some keys or moving the mouse. Just like it is in every other flight game out there :D

Rolling would do more than just look pretty, it makes a whole lot more maneuvers possible. The helicopter style flight model would make it accessible to the casual, lowskill player, but the ability to do advanced maneuvers would keep it interesting for the advanced pilots.

I for one would enjoy being able to pull a split-s and try for a getaway while dodging like a crazy woman, rather than diving straight for the deck and hoping they are bad shots :)

[Jinxmasta]

Exactly! Realism = barrel rolls and many other manuevers that couldn't be done in T2.

[Whoracle]

how real is this game supposed to be?

[Led]

'Realism' is a poor choice of words. 'Better flight controls' would be a more accurate statement :D

[Whoracle]

hehe. i guess it would be alright to implement....kinda like in Starfox...

all i ever did in that game was fly around like a drunken sparrow and barrel roll the entire game

[Jinxmasta]

Better flight controls would be better wors to use but realism still makes sense since it is realistic to be able to do a barrel roll and it is unrealistic not to be able to.

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Hard for sci-fi games to be "real" since everything is pretty much made up anyways.

[Jinxmasta]

I like the flight model in BF1942. I could do a bunch of aerial manuevers and plus, that was with World War 2 planes! Think about what you should be able to do in the future with more advanced aircraft.

[Whoracle]

Originally posted by Jinxmasta
Better flight controls would be better wors to use but realism still makes sense since it is realistic to be able to do a barrel roll and it is unrealistic not to be able to.
actually that is a poor choice of words.

helicopters cant do barrel rolls. some fighter planes cant barrel roll. JETS can do barrel rolls.

it just depends on the technology available. certain vehicles are able to do certain manuevers...

and that should be replicated in game...imo

[Led]

The flight model is helicopter-like. The vehicles themselves are definetly not rotary wing aircraft :D Nothing is preventing these from having, say, little maneuvering thrusters that would roll them right on over.

[Whoracle]

now what would ROCK is if you could control how hard you thrust a wing....

so like you could put thtrust on the left wing and tilt and start to curve....

or you could slam it on and go into a deathspin

[Zarparchior]

Originally posted by Whoracle
hehe. i guess it would be alright to implement....kinda like in Starfox...

all i ever did in that game was fly around like a drunken sparrow and barrel roll the entire game :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Too true... Of course, it deflected the majority of the projectiles being spewn at you though, so it served a purpose. ;)

It wouldn't have a beneficial factor in PS unless they made it the same as in Starfox - which is bad, BAD! So let us scrap this idea totally. No more discussing, no more comparing, NONE. Just stop it and post on another thread. :p

(Disclaimier: Humor is subjective)

[Led]

Just think of the size of the controller required to fly using all that though :jawdrop:

[Whoracle]

This game needs X-Wings asap

and a talkign Fox.

[Led]

And a beat up old chevy with drunken rednecks in the back, toting potato launchers!

*splat*

[Whoracle]

this isnt funny Led. im being serious.

This game NEEDS a talking fox

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Why are there no monster trucks in this game? WTF! :mad:

[Led]

And a fairy that follows you around going 'HEY!#%^' every time you see an enemy *serious face*














:rofl:

[BLuE_ZeRO]

:lol: OK this thread died

[Whoracle]

on a another happier note....i know have an avatar picked out

[BLuE_ZeRO]

roflmao :lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl:

[Led]

http://insanecleric.homestead.com/files/02.jpg
is that?

[BLuE_ZeRO]

exactly what it looks like :lol: Damn trouser snakes :rawr:

[Whoracle]

its a cropped version of the Mr. Bean picture of him in his underwear.

someone animated it with a trouser snake...and it says Be Afraid, Be Very Very Afraid at the top

[BLuE_ZeRO]

I am very very very afraid :brow:

[Whoracle]

ill bet u are :eek:

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Ok I'm going to lunch... hold any spam convos till I get back so I can pariticpate :rawr:

[Whoracle]

look what i found

https://www.endlessagesportal.com/screenshots/group.jpg
admin edit: changed to link

im hidden behind the damn bloblics....poor little froggy

[Hamma]

Lets try and keep posts from going completely off topic.

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Hamma I think it's a bit too late for that...

[Hamma]

Its never too late.