PlanetSide $12.95 a month.

[Ghryphen]

www.planetplanetside.com

[Strygun]

It will most likely be $12.95, it's what everyone expected. Doesn't mean it WILL be, but it's a good estimate.

[Determinado]

i wouldn't be too happy with that, i just mean, $5 would be like the perfect for an mmoFPS, this isn't really 'everquest' with shooting, it's a simple fps with still limited posibilities, i just mean; ps features:
* Vehicles
* 20 Battleranks
* Buildings
* Lots equipment, but don't even think about saying it's like everyquest or any other RPG, it's simply guns, armors, you know, pretty much the tribesthingy here!
* 3 armies, not different only other vehicles and some weapons.

Is this worth $155,4 / year?
I just mean, with that price you can buy a decent CPU each year aswell; 2.2Ghz is about $100 now...
Memory (256Mb) about $58
Well that's just a VERY little bit more;
ehem; well this isn't hardware so like $5 wuld be really much
if you guys of SOE want really much peepz to join the battle then just think man; if you get 40000 peepz to play PS...
You would make $2400000 each year if you only charge $5/month
With like $12.95 you'll make... $6216000
SIX MILLION DOLLARS FOR SOME UPDATES?
ARE YOU INSANE? IF IT IS THIS WAY HELL NO,
I'M NOT PAYING; $5 ISN'T MUCH FOR NORMAL PERSONS,
BUT $12,95 IS!!! AND YOU'LL GET EVEN ALREADY 2400000 F*CKING DOLLARS FOR ONLY THAT 5 DOLLAZ!!!

please, think about the normal gamer, we won't just play planetside and just planetside; with half-life 2 coming up, CS:CZ, TF2, well damned planetside is done...
I'll simply buy $200 for upgrades and i'll have a nice gamer pc,
then i buy HL2 for a ONE-time payment of $50 and damned... oh damned...
They are VEHICLES who actually drive the way they should in HL2!
What are you waiting for damned? In begin of 2004 we'll be playing planetside; planetside in half-life 2!!!

[Determinado]

and btw, diablo 1&2 run for free...

[Lendl]

$6 million is probably what it costs to operate their data center (hardware), isp, and staff (operations, networks, call center, programmers)

per month

[Strygun]

Originally posted by Determinado
and btw, diablo 1&2 run for free...

only because battle.net does not host their own play servers, or have a dev team constantly adding features.

[Trebax]

6 million a month to maintain servers? are you kidding?

[ObnoxiousFrog]

Well, in PS, there are lots of people in it doing what they do. That needs big servers. Getting fast reaction time in battle. Big servers. Processing free entities (bullets, explosions, bulletholes). Big servers.

[kerosene31]

Hopefully they have some longer term deals like if you pay for 6 months up front , you only pay $10 / month or something.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Where did you get the 6 million $ figure from? I'm just curious.

[tmartinez72]

Here's the price scheme I WISH they would implement:

$5/month for 5 hours of play. Then $2/hr after the first 5 hours until the next billing cycle.

This keeps everyone happy. Those who can just afford $5 just pay $5 and be done with it. While those who love the game can play more at an additional cost.

That'll solve EVERYONE's problem! See? Now ain't I the smart one. :love:

[Determinado]

Originally posted by Determinado
With like $12.95 you'll make... $6216000
SIX MILLION DOLLARS FOR SOME UPDATES?
ARE YOU INSANE?

That's where i get 6Millions; 40000 players paying each $12.95 each month...this is what i did:
Price * 12 (=price for one year) * payers
That's 6Millions 216k, and that's a lot!
Since they could also use local webhosts for their
servers and connections, this doesn't cost $6Mills,
as they could use some connections between hosts
so everyone could have a ping of at least 100, it would
only increase performance and if they would do it this way,
they couldn't get wrong; i just mean if you have the ISP
who is running a PS-server, it would be a new feature of
your ISP (internet service provider btw)

And you say diablo1&2 don't use their own servers to run their games on, i don't get it, what servers do they use then?
Blizzard servers as far as i know!

6Mills isn't too much, they did a great job surely but damn,
a subscription costs 155/Year? THAT is much, i just can't believe
you would have to pay like 3 games (full price, $50) each year, just to run one game who doesn't add any VERY special feature to the FPS-genre, exception for its size.

So that's how i get 6Mills, and i wouldn't believe you if you
told me the first year only 40k players would play PS,
it's the max of a server and there will be several servers, and more players (100k is really not much if you look at certain MMORPGs)
100k players * 12 * 12,95 = 15 540 000
(says my calculator)
as you see, i split up the numbers a bit,
just to make stuff clear ^^

[IDgaf]

5 hours for 5 dollars?

I regularly play Bf1942 for 5+ hours, sometimes 12 hours at a stretch.*

I prefer the monthly fee to your system. Crikey.

IDgaf

*Yes, I have a job.

[Determinado]

Originally posted by tmartinez72
Here's the price scheme I WISH they would implement:

$5/month for 5 hours of play. Then $2/hr after the first 5 hours until the next billing cycle.

What are you talking about? That would get the price up damn much! I guess i would have played 10 hours AT LEAST per month; and that's already $15, and 10 hours isn't much, you've got these peepz playing professional counter-strike who play 3 hours/day, 5 times each week just for training! Not my kind of scheme!

[SpacemanSpiff]

Originally posted by tmartinez72
Here's the price scheme I WISH they would implement:

$5/month for 5 hours of play. Then $2/hr after the first 5 hours until the next billing cycle.

This keeps everyone happy. Those who can just afford $5 just pay $5 and be done with it. While those who love the game can play more at an additional cost.

That'll solve EVERYONE's problem! See? Now ain't I the smart one. :love:

So let me get this straight. First of all, there are a lot of people out there that play at least 5 hours a DAY. Now what would that make the total cost for them at? Hmmmm.... time to bust out the calculator.

5*7 = 35 hours a week
35*4 = 140 hours a month
140-5 = 135 since you're talking about 5 hours per month costing 5.00$
So, that leaves you with 135 extra hours per month...
135*2 = $270.00 a month! Wow... that's NOT BAD AT ALL! *intense sarcasm*

[Tatter]

Going to have to think on this fee for PS.

Yes, 12.95 is not THAT much. Yes, I know about production costs and maintenance costs.

However...

It's the same price to play some other online games that have a heck of alot more content in them. There is no way that it costs the same to maintain PS as compared to EQ. I consider this overpaying.

When you start paying for several online games, like I do, you have to compare what you are getting for your monthly fee content-wise, as well as enjoyment.

Just watch, I also bet they'll have us buy expansion packs.

[simba]

Originally posted by Determinado
you've got these peepz playing professional counter-strike who play 3 hours/day, 5 times each week just for training! Not my kind of scheme!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
hehe, 3 hours a day!!!!!!!!! 5 times a week- JUST 4 TRAINING!
:lol:
sorry, sorry sorry but i ocudletn help it, it was such a nice joke :) .
Kinda like Jay leno.
I didnt knew half the guys who played CS was pros:lol:
hehe

[Matuse]

Since they could also use local webhosts for their servers and connections, this doesn't cost $6Mills

Let us not confuse what they COULD do with what they WILL do. They *could* mail you jellybeans every month, but it isn't going to happen. Local webhosts would be a shitty idea for a thousand reasons. Never happen.

[web hosting] would only increase performance and if they would do it this way, they couldn't get wrong

Until people start cheating with no way to stop them, and people cancel their subscriptions. Oops.

ISP (internet service provider btw)

ISP means internet service provider? WELL GOD-FUCKING-HELL. IT SURE IS GOOD THAT YOU ARE HERE TO TELL US THESE THINGS. MAYBE I'LL LOOK INTO THIS WHOLE NETWEBERINT THING SOON WITH YOUR AMAZING INFORMATION.

And you say diablo1&2 don't use their own servers to run their games on, i don't get it, what servers do they use then? Blizzard servers as far as i know!

He means the game runs on YOUR computer, not theirs, so the amount of processing and bandwidth power required at their end is significantly less than the scheme that planetside will be using. I really strongly recommend that you either improve your language skills (I'm guessing that english isn't your native language), or stop getting into arguements where you have no facts.

you would have to pay lik 3 games (full price, $50) each year, just to run one game who doesn't add any VERY special feature to the FPS-genre, exception for its size.

What would you rather do, spend $155 per year on Planetside, or $500 a year buying 10 other games.

Ooooh, TOUGH CALL!

[tmartinez72]

Hey! You should see what they do on their off-time. Mouse-click exercises. Finger stretches. The keyboard bench press.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Professional CS players playing 3 hours a day? Try 8 hours a day when an upcoming tournament is about to occur. 3 hours? pffft! :p

[simba]

Originally posted by tmartinez72
Hey! You should see what they do on their off-time. Mouse-click exercises. Finger stretches. The keyboard bench press.
Ah cool, ur a guy in the dev team! (or ur only a wannabee :( )
and ur telling us that PS sux, hmmmmm thats..... weird.
hey! just bcoz u dont have a decent answer doesent mean u have to lie that ur in the dev team :p .

[simba]

Originally posted by Unico
Professional CS players playing 3 hours a day? Try 8 hours a day when an upcoming tournament is about to occur. 3 hours? pffft! :p
lol dude, he was just kidding :p .
It sure was funny :D

[Spider]

God people!

The guy doesnt know shit about anything

Let me explain this easy.

Diablo 2 servers are automated... the blizzard servers are basiclly chatrooms with crappy anims.

The game is hosted on the computer of the game creator.

No devs are there to catch the cheaters hackers and bugs.

The updates happen almost never

The connection is horrible!



Now the cost for PS is basicly for maintenance, they pay their employees the dev's they cover the damned game's cost to produce it. You get many updates no cheaters or hackers... Now don't tell me the shit you think they can do, coming from the guy that didnt know that D2 games were hosted on your computer.


I do beleive sir that you are a moron!

Learn the facts before trying to argue!

[MuadDib]

/\

And Spider wins by using the almighty power of reason and facts.....

[tmartinez72]

Originally posted by simba
Ah cool, ur a guy in the dev team! (or ur only a wannabee :( )
and ur telling us that PS sux, hmmmmm thats..... weird.
hey! just bcoz u dont have a decent answer doesent mean u have to lie that ur in the dev team :p .

At what point does it read that I was on the dev. team? At what point do I say that PS "sux"?

I'm probably the biggest PS fanboi yoiu can meet. Hell, I want PS to cost $20/month just to keep the kiddies like you out.

Dude. What the hell are you talking about?! Obviously, English isn't your first language, so I'll forgive you this time.

[SaltzBad]

My only complaint is that there isn't a reduced payment scheme for 1 character per server - I'm not bloody likely going to want/need 4 per server or 16 in total.

[Tytharel]

Here, here Spider.

[Fire_Monkey]

Originally posted by Determinado
i wouldn't be too happy with that, i just mean, $5 would be like the perfect for an mmoFPS, this isn't really 'everquest' with shooting, it's a simple fps with still limited posibilities, i just mean; ps features:
* Vehicles
* 20 Battleranks
* Buildings
* Lots equipment, but don't even think about saying it's like everyquest or any other RPG, it's simply guns, armors, you know, pretty much the tribesthingy here!
* 3 armies, not different only other vehicles and some weapons.

Is this worth $155,4 / year?
I just mean, with that price you can buy a decent CPU each year aswell; 2.2Ghz is about $100 now...
Memory (256Mb) about $58
Well that's just a VERY little bit more;
ehem; well this isn't hardware so like $5 wuld be really much
if you guys of SOE want really much peepz to join the battle then just think man; if you get 40000 peepz to play PS...
You would make $2400000 each year if you only charge $5/month
With like $12.95 you'll make... $6216000
SIX MILLION DOLLARS FOR SOME UPDATES?
ARE YOU INSANE? IF IT IS THIS WAY HELL NO,
I'M NOT PAYING; $5 ISN'T MUCH FOR NORMAL PERSONS,
BUT $12,95 IS!!! AND YOU'LL GET EVEN ALREADY 2400000 F*CKING DOLLARS FOR ONLY THAT 5 DOLLAZ!!!

please, think about the normal gamer, we won't just play planetside and just planetside; with half-life 2 coming up, CS:CZ, TF2, well damned planetside is done...
I'll simply buy $200 for upgrades and i'll have a nice gamer pc,
then i buy HL2 for a ONE-time payment of $50 and damned... oh damned...
They are VEHICLES who actually drive the way they should in HL2!
What are you waiting for damned? In begin of 2004 we'll be playing planetside; planetside in half-life 2!!!

The costs are for server maintinence, not for content. That's why you pay for the box. If you think about it, PS servers will take a lot more maintinence than an EQ server, with no PvP combat. If you don't like it, stop whining and go buy HL2, no-one cares.

[KaRtToOn]

I don't think you can even begin to imagine the costs of running some of the clusters they use.

[justmust]

Yes D2 Runs for free........but look at how bad the hacking on D2 has gotten.

[MuadDib]

Correction (as it has been stated many times in the thread) D2 does not run a MMORPG free. It runs a chat service & a server finder. All the servers are provided by players.

[Saethan]

And the chat/server finder still sucks.

[Incubus]

Bah, Spider already pwned him, so I will just say GGs Spider and be done with it. :D

[Whacko]

hahaha funny seeing all these people whine about a possible 12.95

if you don't want to pay to play go play a game like CS......sheeesh but think about it....you will part of a great game...so no matter what it costs I'm in.

[Gladiator]

So is there a flat rate or is the money priced hourly

[tmartinez72]

It's a flate rate. $12.95/month or a game card for those without CCs.

[Gladiator]

CCs?

[Endless]

credit cards

[Determinado]

Ok so here's my reaction; i don't care what you'll think about it:
(Vs. Matuse)
First 2 quotes don't make any sense,
they could engage a contract doesn't mean anyone can simply go and
run a server if they 'd liked to.
Then you say there would be people cheating and stuff if the servers
aren't monitored... well it WILL KEEP happening, can you tell me dude,
would they ban 12,95/month for more inventory space? Then again,
would they monitor the servers? No they won't...not with 40k peepz
playing on one server, oh no, monitoring won't work. Anti-cheat won't do
it either, it never does (why they call it hacking anywayz?)
then
"ISP means internet service provider? WELL GOD-FUCKING-HELL. IT SURE IS GOOD THAT YOU ARE HERE TO TELL US THESE THINGS"
Well you maybe didn't know but...eh...not everyone even knows what btw means,
or rofl, lmao, and all of that shit. Nor everyone is english; just trying to be
funny by saying i'm dumb...great for you
Then i'm asking wich server diablo and such uses, well, i tough it was like in interstate,
you tell server what gametype and players, pass and such then it runs on the company's server,
not too strange, since there's no hosting options in diablo and no 'server down' message
once the one who started server leaves, next player seems to take it over.
(It's true offcourse, otherwise blizzard would run all their games on one server)
Quote:
(me) you would have to pay like 3 games (full price, $50) each year, just to run one game wich doesn't add any VERY special feature to the FPS-genre, exception for its size...
(other dude) What would you rather do, spend $155 per year on Planetside,
or $500 a year buying 10 other games.

I must say i'd rather buy like half-life (vehicles, much new features and grafix),
new CPU and some memory,
price? 50+150+50, not mentioning i would also have to upgrade pc when buying PS... you know half-life mods? All are free, just mean,
no-one stops playing half-life unless they are impatient.
Different with PS? No new genre, only new features to the game added,
and you can't make your own mod. Offcourse it's not what i really ask,
but half-life is at least as good as planetside, even if you just look
at the competition of those mods with less players;
I think Matuse doesn't say anything really,
just saying the dev-team does a great job (and that's true)
and i'm a dumbass. I don't give a fuck what he thinks about me,
nor i care about what i say (lol), but i do know telling
what an ISP is to peepz ISN'T BECAUSE YOU THINK NO-ONE KNOWS!
Come on, just look at the reaction;
Main thing is; in half-life you chose wether to pay,
to pay a part or not to pay for servers.
Clanpeepz need it, communities need it and stand-alone players
join the servers. Ah crap man what i'm a doing ffs...


Nywayz, wrote my reply so deleting wuld be strange :-/

[Determinado]

Now just look at Gladiator,
is it a crime some don't know what CCs means,
what anything means?

:rolleyes:

[Tieom]

There needs to be a rule that your post must contain at least as much text as your sig...
But then people would just spam wierd crap at the end of their messages.
I mean, goldfish lamp wallpaper skeleton in my Bavarian Star or what? Flowers mirror computer Smurfs every time Moses flies playing cards in or around Paris.

[Determinado]

Originally posted by simba
[Bhehe, 3 hours a day!!!!!!!!! 5 times a week- JUST 4 TRAINING!
:lol:
sorry, sorry sorry but i ocudletn help it, it was such a nice joke :) .
Kinda like Jay leno.
I didnt knew half the guys who played CS was pros:lol:
hehe [/B]

Well duh you don't seem to get it right?
3 * 5 = 15 wuhuw
5 hours he sayed he wuld make $5
Rest $2/hour
That's $25 dollar/week
[JUST 4 TRAINING
Thinking bout those guys who don't spend all their
money on ONE FREAKIN game, who have a life and such,
who actually know people outside a game;
but that wouldn't be like you i guess...
Like just go play cs from 8 in the mornin to 12 midnight...
And i can assure you playing a game whole day is the most creative thing i ever heard, MUST BE REAL GOOD!
If there only would be some contests in PS, where you can actually have like 2 weeks to win; most points is objective, total domination is the end.
I don't really think most of csplayers play more then 3 hours/day... just thinkin bout all the dudes i see who come home from school and go play cs, most likely they only play 3 hours when it's school, pretty normal i think!

[Matuse]

My only complaint is that there isn't a reduced payment scheme for 1 character per server - I'm not bloody likely going to want/need 4 per server or 16 in total.

No reason to reduce the cost for this. Multiple characters doesn't really cost SOE anything, characters are just data (and in a game like this, not very much of it)...hard drives are large and cheap.

they could engage a contract doesn't mean anyone can simply go and
run a server if they 'd liked to.

All it would take is one less-than scrupulous anonymous employee at one of these off-site locations to leak the source code, and suddenly 10,000 people all set up their own private PS servers, and nobody would continue to pay under those circumstances. Keep everything under your own, tight, control. It just works better.

Then you say there would be people cheating and stuff if the servers
aren't monitored... well it WILL KEEP happening,

No, it won't. This is part of what we pay the Dev's to handle, and the mechanism behind the game makes it rather difficult. It may sporadically happen at the beginning...everquest had people cheating at the start (there was a program that let you run 10x faster than normally possible), but the Devs came down on those people with a ton of bricks, then fixed the problem.

can you tell me dude,
would they ban 12,95/month for more inventory space?

I can't speak to what their policy on cheaters will be, but if someone managed to cobble up a mechanism for expanded inventory space, I would imagine that anyone using it would face an account suspension at the very least. Banning would be more likely. Losing the $12.95 of one cheater is better than losing 20 legit accounts who couldn't tolerate being put at an unfair disadvantage for playing by the rules. The first people who get caught cheating WILL get banned, I can promise you that. Hell, they'll probably put notice of the fact on the official website, and on an in-game message so that everyone knows it. Ounce of prevention and all that.

Then again, would they monitor the servers? No they won't...

Yes, they will. It isn't even very hard. The most common methods of cheating (inventory expansion, aimbots) are rather easy to detect. You don't even need people doing the monitoring. Just set up the game itself to check for these kinds of things, and flag suspicious activity for a human to look over. Also, they'll log everything.

not with 40k peepz playing on one server, oh no, monitoring won't work. Anti-cheat won't do it either, it never does

40K people on a server? Not a chance. The stated population for a server is about 4k people at the same time.

Everquest has four HUNDRED THOUSAND player accounts, with the potential of 8 characters per server, and something like 45 servers...and nearly everything you do is logged. I don't see Planetside being any different.

The big differences between anti-cheat on (for example) Counterstrike and Planetside:

1)CS cheat designers have access to the server source code which arbitrates all actions in the game, so they have complete knowledge of the best ways to fool it. Also, in a game like that, the files to manipulate are held client-side, not server-side. This is not the case in Planetside. The cone of fire annihilates aimbots all by itself, not even factoring in the fact that the client wouldn't be allowed to control it by the Dev Team.

2) Consequences. Get got cheating on CS, and just go to another server. Get banned from Planetside and...oops, time to use the CDs as beverage coasters.

I must say i'd rather buy like half-life (vehicles, much new features and grafix), new CPU and some memory, price? 50+150+50,

Do you mean Half Life 2? I don't see the relevance. It's a different game. Like saying I wouldn't buy a racing game because I already own tetris.

not mentioning i would also have to upgrade pc when buying PS...

If I decide to play Planetside, it will mean buying a completely new PC. So what? Are the developers responsible for how you spend your money?

you know half-life mods? All are free, just mean, no-one stops playing half-life unless they are impatient.

Or don't like them, or get bored with them, or hate all the cheating, or want a different experience, or want to be in a really really large battle....that's 5 reasons to not get half-life mods, I'm sure there are others.


Different with PS? No new genre, only new features to the game added, and you can't make your own mod. Offcourse it's not what i really ask, but half-life is at least as good as planetside, even if you just look
at the competition of those mods with less players

If your big concern is modding, then Planetside isn't the game for you. There's nothing wrong with that. Don't buy it. But also don't bitch about it. There are lots of games that many people felt were good but which I would compare unfavorably to a bladder infection...I don't go to their forums and tell them how dumb they are just because our tastes are different.

[HS Warwolf]

I just heard about planetside about a week ago. I think that a flat rate would be good. I mean sometimes when I get home from school I'm on my computer for 3+ hours a day playin games on the internet or surfing the web. One thing that is kinda dumb is that there goin to charge u 12.95 a month. That's like buying a new game of planetside every season. I wouldn't mind something like 5-8$ a month. I can't pay 13$ a month when I have to wait another year and 1/2 to get a job that pays higher than my allowance of 10.00 a month! When I get a job it won't be a problem in 1 1/2 years if the gas prices aren't at 2+ dollars a gallon. If I'm gonna start an outfit like I plan to, by that time, most of the players will be affiliated with other outfits. :sniper: :whip:

[HS Warwolf]

One thing I left out, I was wonderin where they're gonna be selling the game cards or whatever.

[Determinado]

quote:
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I must say i'd rather buy like half-life (vehicles, much new features and grafix), new CPU and some memory, price? 50+150+50,
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Do you mean Half Life 2? I don't see the relevance. It's a different game. Like saying I wouldn't buy a racing game because I already own tetris.

---
LOOOOL
Nono, that's not what i ment, I just know vehicles were possible in hl, but in hl2 they will be the same as in tribes or a race game, a very good point wich will allow modding peepz to make like a mafia-game with drive-by shootings, and this on maps who are large enought. HL maps were pretty little, making large fields or terrains something you never saw in hl. In HL2 I know, actually I think, that the maps would be at least 8 times as big as the usual ones. This means the perfect mod would be some mafia-game in 1920-30, a large city with NPC's (these are in devlopment by Roleplay HL, options to trade and talk), shops, drivable cars and unlimited mafia organisations (each player could start one)
This WILL be possible with hl2, and since i know it could be possible with Planetside also, it's really too bad they don't allow the making of mods. I just mean, we pay for changes but we can't do it ourselves. Those guys of valve (creators of hl) simply release a game with a damn good engine, support mods hell a lot and don't have to be payed just for sitting in their lazy chair watching peepz creating the new features for them!

I start liking you lol ;)
Yar last post was somewhat more like about games :)

[ParadoxSix]

One thing I left out, I was wonderin where they're gonna be selling the game cards or whatever.

I'm pretty sure they said they would sell 90 day game cards in the press release.

[Demdadar]

:confused: hey guys you really can't pay 13 bucks per month ? You work as a tramp or what ? ( don't want to offense anyone !!)

[PhyreFox]

Yes, they will be selling 90 day game cards. I've already arranged to buy them at my local Electronics Boutique :D

Is it a bad sign when the people at EB know your name when you breeze in the door every two weeks right after you recive your paychek, and they knew you would be coming?
Just curious :rolleyes:

[Determinado]

offcourse I can afford it, but you know, i want some life OUTSIDE of planetside, plz man, i could also pay the double but it's fucking much a year, too much

[sommy911]

If I did a survey about the people bitching about the price, I'm willing to bet that 95% are under the age of 18. You guys either need to find a job instead of wasting all your energey complaining. There are countless posts by 14 year olds in the sony forums complaining about the price.

[Determinado]

hey hey you got it right there! I actually Am EXACT 14 years old, but hell man, 80% of the people who played max payne were also, so is it gonna be different then? Is PS a game who will be played by people, the half of them under 18? Nope, most of 'm will be under 18, and i must say...sigh...does age matter? I can get my parents that far they pay it but hell, i don't wanna pay so much - it's just a game and it's just planetside; and besides man, i'm not going to play JUST planetside becus no modding stuff and such. Read my previous replies for what i will be playing - half-life2 it's gonna rule!

[Stax]

All you guys complaining about a $12 monthly fee - be happy that in PS you'll never learn what a buffbot is :p

Stax.

[Nekota]

Well I'll agree with you in that HL2 looks great and I'll most likely get that too when it's released. It'll never be Planetside. The best you can hope for will be CS or FA with prettier graphics nothing at all that'll approach the persitance and character development in Planetside. Couple that with added features Planetside will continue to evolve where as HL or HL2 mods will be pretty much the same.

[NightWalker XI]

I heard it was going to be $10

Its hard for me, Im still in College (High School in America) and I am only able to work at weekends and want to buy stuff, it may seem little sicne it is monthly but it is a bit.

[HS Warwolf]

Well the funny thing about the gaming community today is that most of us are under 18 and don't have a good paying job. The other thing that is kinda funny to me is that when the game boy came out, most of the people who bought it were adults. Back to what I was sayin though. Almost all the people who buy games today can't get a job that pays higher that 50 bucks a month. Now ya, you can save up enough money to but ps but then you have to pay almost 1/4 of your monthly allowance just to pay to play. Then if you wan't to go buy another game or sumpin like that, 1/4 of you money is gone monthly. For people who have jobs and they can afford it it's not a problem. Most of their customers can't afford it. They'd probably make a lot more money selling the actual game if they had a lower monthly price. One thing i'm curious about is if they'll allow you to use debit cards instead of credit cards. I can't get a credit card for a while and anyways their just ripoff's. You go to pay for sumpin that's 100$ and you end up paying something like 800 to the credit company. Debit card's would be a heck of a lot better so you're paying them your money and you don't have to pay the messed up credit companies.:evil:

[NightWalker XI]

Warwolf thats exactly what I mean, I guess it does require high maintenance but I wish it was only $5 or sumthing....

[Nekota]

Originally posted by {HS}Warwolf
Well the funny thing about the gaming community today is that most of us are under 18
and

Originally posted by {HS}Warwolf Most of their customers can't afford it.


The average age of gamers is in the early to mid 20's. (source: http://www.arcadezen.com/mt/archives/000016.html )

Originally posted by {HS}Warwolf and don't have a good paying job.

You make a sight more then I did when I was younger at $4.25/hour and I could afford $13.00/month.

Originally posted by {HS}Warwolf Almost all the people who buy games today can't get a job that pays higher that 50 bucks a month.

Where do you live where you can only earn $50/month? The national minimum wage is $5.15. Factoring in a modest 20% in taxes you'll have to gross around $63/month to earn only $50/month. At $5.15/hour you're looking at 12.23 hours/month to earn that. That's roughly 3 hours a week. Here's an idea if you worked and extra 45 minutes a week you'd have enough for Planetside.

Originally posted by {HS}Warwolf Now ya, you can save up enough money to but ps but then you have to pay almost 1/4 of your monthly allowance just to pay to play.

Ok now I see your problem. You don't actually have a job. Well... go get one. McDonalds is always hiring. With only 13 hours a week it'll be cake. You should be able to do it standing on your head.


Originally posted by {HS}Warwolf They'd probably make a lot more money selling the actual game if they had a lower monthly price.

The problem with the unit sales is you only sell the game once. So the money earned of per unit sales is finite. This is one of the reasons why a monthly fee is charged becuase, sales alone won't be able to sustain the life of a MMOG. Sure a lower monthly fee would most likely create a larger audience but, there's a balance between quality and quantity sales. A good example of this is the sales figures for Ford and Ferrari. Ford may sell more units but, Ferrari charges more per unit and therefore both are able to make a good business at selling cars. They just approach the market at different angles.

Originally posted by {HS}Warwolf One thing i'm curious about is if they'll allow you to use debit cards instead of credit cards.

Well if you have a debit card with a Visa or Mastercard logo on it, it can be used as a credit card. Other solutions are http://www.visabuxx.com/ prepaid disposable credit cards.

Originally posted by {HS}Warwolf I can't get a credit card for a while and anyways their just ripoff's. You go to pay for sumpin that's 100$ and you end up paying something like 800 to the credit company.

Quite an exaggeration and only if you make the minimum monthly payment. You're well within your rights to pay off your bill every month however you're also permitted to stretch it out. The intrest incurred because of it is paying for the service that the credit card company is offering you. It's totally up to you use your credit card responsibly though. If used responsibly it's not a bad deal and alot better then carrying wads of cash in your back pocket.

[NightWalker XI]

I can use my debit card?

Yay, cause my mum wasn't gonna pay for it :eek:

[HS Warwolf]

The devs should include some kind of editor so that they don't have to waste money making additions to the game when the gaming community can do it themselves. Example: Take a look at Morrowind, one of the best rpg's yet. Why is it? You can manipulate every aspect of the game. Add your own weapons, Armor, anything. A week ago some dude made a life sized airship. Another guy added like 20 more creatures to the game. Animations, Textures, Scripts, everything. peeps all the time are talking about adding a navy or mechs or more weapons to ps. I say don't leave it up to the devs. Have fans make the additions themselves and release them to the game community if they want. Then we don't have to pay an additional 20$ or 30$ or whatever.

[DarkDragon]

I am a teenager and 13 bucks a month is no big deal for me. Those of you without jobs need to start doing more work for your parents and start receiving a decent allowance.