what do commanders think of the new system...

[Jinks]

I would like to know what fellow commanders think of the new XP system. I know there was a thread started about non XP whores who are somehow comfortable at BR 5. I can get BR 5 in 2 hours. Before the first wipe i was 18/4. I had the best time, it was really fun only minor bugs and stuff. Now I am not at 150% loving this game as I was. Maybe at 98% love for this game. Still a wonderful game but I blieve this time slice factor won't be good.

If you want to imrpove this game and the experience (and you can flame me on this later) give a certain ammount of set experience for TOWERS, not just bases you can get. Towers are key points in this game and experience should be givin to them. With the old exp system of unique kills. Why not integrate them and have unique kills over time slices. Sharing kills over squad isn't a huge deal after BR 15 you get like no exp anyways. I can kill any max in two shots with my Phoenix missles. Thats 350 exp.

I am worried about the CEP, precious precious CEP. Every single time I lead a sqad and never join one. I occasionally let people get promoted in outfit by leading a squad and me watching. For like 99% of the time i go on the continents that are almost locked down, HART in there and start retaking it. If there was a set exp for towers and bases. Just a default of say 500 CEP for leader and 500 fo squad members and say 200 for towers. This would be much more incentive then to say, ok lets all go to Cyssor. Because no one will go anywhere else because everyone is on cyssor or Esamir.

I like going to other continents and retaking the whole continent with only 3 squads. Ishundar, Solsar, Ceryshen, all of these are fun continents no one go to, because of the Climate or whatever. Eh, whatever floats your boat is hat i say.
A set amount of exp for a tower and base would make going to other continents more fun until you retake half of the thing for them to showup. Give me your view.

*Flame On*

[Jinks]

For people who are lazy heres what I said in a nutshell.

-New XP system is dumb.
-Lattice Good.
-500 Default for Bases CEP for Comm and BEP for Squad members.
-200 For towers CEP and BEP.
-Give team capture exp otherwise everyone will go solo.
-We need team elements because it is a team based game.
-Don-t turn this into EQ. Played it for 4 years, it got crapper, same asDAOC, AC, AO and the others.
-thanks for your time

[LesserShade]

I like the time slice thing but I'm not completely sold on it. The old shared XP system was too damn easy to exploit. Squads I used to be in would split up and have members sit in on different caps across the map and we'd rake in BEP and CEP like no other.

[Pilgrim]

The new xp gives the bone to commanders... and I realize how much that sucks. This will change... they have allready said they thought people were gaining cep too slow, now with this epic slow down I can't see them not improving it.

I like the ideas of set xp for bases and towers (though it could lead to exploits... I doubt it)

I gotta say the I mis-spoke when I said that BR5 was enough... I really get comfy at BR6 first implant... and 9 cert points, but that is just me.

The systems needs to change, I am sick of 99% of the battles on a server being non-fights... too many from one faction camping XP... it sucks.

Just me

And I still love PS at about 99%

PAX

[HappyHitman]

Your right towers should gain you XP, your idea is cool but i like not know exactly how much XP im gonna gain at the end of a capture, because I feel that this makes me do missions because Im part of a team as opposed to do it because I know exactly how much XP im gonna gain. People should play for the sake of playing not for the XP. Xp should be there to help you progress to keep your experience of the game changing as opposed to being the reason to play.

So to sum up, I agree they need to change something, but I don't like the time share idea, but they still need to add in squad XP sharing. maybe boost the XP gained for the more people of your squad in the SOI.

any thoughts.

HappyHitman

[Masurao]

The new XP system is terrable. Though they wnated to get rid of the solo hackers? not creat more. Team mates are going to be killing eachother like crazy to get the hack. The slice systme is seems good to me, but the squad not getting credit for a Base Hack? that removes a crap load of team eliment. People will have to get hacking and advance hacking cert if they ever plan to get any real gain.

[LesserShade]

Maybe I am not understanding something about the new slice system.. but it seems to me that it will help make people play as a squad because you have to sit in the SOI and perhaps do some work to defend that hack to get any points rather than delegating someone from your squad to be the XP bitch and have him go sit at a base while everybody else runs off to assault another base somewhere else.

[Jarlo]

Yeah Shade but anyone who does not want to sit and rot in the SOI is punished. This means snipers, pilots, tankers, AMS, ANT are all punished for doing their work outside of the SOI.

[LesserShade]

Punishing the ant driver is a problem I agree. However, if you are leaving a base the second you hack it, why do you deserve as many points as the guy who sat his ass there for 15 minutes and actually defended the hack? The slice system sounds good to me.. if you sit in the SOI and help defend the base for 5 minutes and then leave you at least get 33% of the max experience.

I liked it when they first changed the XP system to continent wide, but frankly the system was too easy to abuse.

[LesserShade]

ah ok, i've reevaluated my stance on the issue. Airlift pretty much said it best Fuck your goals, this is an FPS. I think I'd rather just max my character's levels out in 2 weeks and then just enjoy the frag fest. :p

[obskure]

u can completely bum rush a very occupied base and only be there for like 17 minutes and not get full exp. i just fail to see the logic in that.

[1024]

i dont like it. I think they should switch back to the one right before this. Although i do give kudoes to the devs for trying out something new. ahaha i used the word "kudoes" :D

[Dharkbayne]

It's spelled "Kudos" you dumbass, like teh kandy, :p

[TheGreatCarbini]

The lattice I dont really care about, makes for big battles, the time thing gives you less exp, so iunno take that how you want it won;t take long to get BR20 with hardcore playing. CEP is now really hard to get, I like this, as a commander, I'd rather not have the command channel filled with a few people who happened to fall into CR2.

Although my faaavorite change, aside from the 9700 fix, is the new gate map. O man, I love Hossin so much and was afraid only the Vanu would ever see it, now theres always a fight of some sort on every island.