Starcraft:Ghost

[Harps]

how do u guys think this game is ganna be.. I personaly wish blizzard would spend their time on a starcraft 2 .. but i guess it would be cool to see all the races up close and personal

[Angelos]

It's going to suck.

[OneManArmy]

its going to rock, I've always wanted to get up close and personal with the units of starcraft... plus :hitit:

[UNEEDASSHOE]

I've seen all the stuff about it and it looks to be pretty impressive, maybe, but then again I've seen some other games like that and they didn't turn out to well; so we shall see sooner or later. Starcraft 2 would be a better way to spend their money and time though. That's just my opinion though.

[NeoTassadar]

YEAH! I want to take down a Ultralisk with that scytheknife!

[OneManArmy]

please, theres no point in releasing starcraft 2 just to please you when the original starcraft is still maknig them ass loads of money in korea, its all about economics..... (although I want it badly too ;))

[Angelos]

Starcraft sucks too.

[NeoTassadar]

BLASPHEMY!

[Angelos]

I have 3 RTS games installed, all better than Starcraft. You MIGHT be able to name 2, but the best one I'm betting you haven't played. See, Blizzard does not make the best games for their genres. If you played outside the box of popularity, you might know this. Diablo can't even be called an RPG, otherwise it'd get laughed out of it's genre. Starcraft and Warcraft are behind the times and nothing new. Ghost is just going to be for fanboys, it's not going to be uber cool.

[OneManArmy]

angelos is such a happy gamer... I can see he really enjoys games, he thinks you're not cool because you don't like underground shit... we should all take a lesson from angelos on how to be a 1337 gamer...

[NeoTassadar]

This is not exactly Starcraft or Warcraft (except 3's) time. They are old games. But they are still great. On top of that they were all ahead of their times, and above average by today's standards as well. Sure, it cannot be compared to some newer ones by graphics or difficulty, but definately by storyline, depth, and gameplay.

[Flameseeker]

Blizzard set the bar for RTS. StarCraft rocks, it's one of the greatest RTS to date. What beats it?
WarIII, The Frozen Throne.
Errr, that's it. No other RTS comes close. I have Emperor: Battle for Dune, Age of Kings, Strifeshadow, and I have played Praetorians and StarWars: Galactic Battlegrounds. None were as good, although Strifeshadow was very close, it merely lacked a community and single-player campaign.

[Angelos]

Even Shogun: Total War beats it, except maybe it's a slightly different genre. Turn based RTS(sounds funny) is a rare breed, but still RTS at heart.

Kohan is superior to all RTS blizzard has ever come up with. If C&C would give up on super weapons, they'd show blizzard how to make 3 unique sides. Age of whatever was even better.


Do you know what blizzard makes? Rush games. Games that require no time to develop skills or strategy for them. And when I mean no skills or strategy, I am comparing this to games that require those things heavily. In Diablo you just rush threw swinging your sword and whatnot. It really is an easy game. Warcraft and Starcraft are basically the same with different skins, and it's all about rushing. No long battles. When one army meets the other, you know who will win before it's half done. In a game like Kohan, a whole army could attack your main city and it was iffy who would win until the invader died. In C&C you had options of strategy with each side on how you can surprise the bad guys. In Starcraft you just send a lot of units at them.

They were never ahead of their time, they never had more features or better gameplay. The only thing they really had was cinematics that no other game could touch. But that doesn't make the game good. Fact is, at the LAN parties here you don't see blizzard games. In fact, we often don't play the popular games. We are always trying new things, and often we find things better than what's popular.

[NeoTassadar]

Judging by your description, you must have got owned badly and consistently in Starcraft. As for C&C, all of them were good, but badly unbalanced. Every time. Never played Kohan, but heard good things. But, if you think Starcraft is about rushing, you have much to learn. One big sign: hose special abilities are there for a reason.

[Angelos]

No, I didn't get owned in starcraft. I refused to play. It wasn't that good compared to other games. I am not going to waste my time with a game knowing I can play other games that are better and more fun.


I didn't like most C&Cs, and still don't really like Generals. But I must give them credit for having every single unit unique on each side, and the themes consistent. And surprisingly... it's all balanced.


Blizzard RTS can't be anything but rushing. There is no strategy involved in the battles. The game itself is too limited to have any.

[OneManArmy]

No, I didn't get owned in starcraft. I refused to play. It wasn't that good compared to other games. I am not going to waste my time with a game knowing I can play other games that are better and more fun.



that line makes no sense and totally destroys your credibility.... lose.. :nono:

[tok1m]

starcraft is l337... warcraft is l337, but i think generals was more complex... but blizzard beats C&c because of their l337 storyline and their l337ness

[UNEEDASSHOE]

starcraft is l337... warcraft is l337, but i think generals was more complex... but blizzard beats C&c because of their l337 storyline and their l337ness

If your talking about Civil War Generals then your all wrong cause that game sucked ass. If your talking about something else then thats okay I guess. Starcraft is one of the best game i've ever played, and online it is the best game i've ever played.

[Unregistered]

I think he's talking about C&C Genrals. I've got it, but I haven't installed it yet so i can't comment on eather or not it's any good.

Seems to be a habit I have with C&C titles. I still have my unopended C&C Renegades that I bought because all my friends told me to get it, and as soon as I did they all quit playing (thanks Hamma! ;) ) and made me go get SoF2.

[NeoTassadar]

Originally posted by Angelos
No, I didn't get owned in starcraft. I refused to play. It wasn't that good compared to other games. I am not going to waste my time with a game knowing I can play other games that are better and more fun.


I didn't like most C&Cs, and still don't really like Generals. But I must give them credit for having every single unit unique on each side, and the themes consistent. And surprisingly... it's all balanced.


Blizzard RTS can't be anything but rushing. There is no strategy involved in the battles. The game itself is too limited to have any. Hmmm...the content of the first paragraph eliminates the possibility that you know enough to write the third from personal knowledge. And if you heard it from another source, that source gets constantly owned in Starcraft.

[UNEEDASSHOE]

I probably shouldn't be commenting on it either but I never liked those games neways. As for most all other titles they are good most of the time.

[Hamma]

Originally posted by Unregistered
I think he's talking about C&C Genrals. I've got it, but I haven't installed it yet so i can't comment on eather or not it's any good.

Seems to be a habit I have with C&C titles. I still have my unopended C&C Renegades that I bought because all my friends told me to get it, and as soon as I did they all quit playing (thanks Hamma! ;) ) and made me go get SoF2. :love:

[Bighoss]

Age of Empires two is one of my favorites espically internet play. the other night I was bored so I re installed it and played on the internet and set up the best base. it was a small island, but completey surrounded by walls and had tons of cannon towers and castles to defend it. The only place where you could land was my small port which was loaded with cannon towers. I had depleted a lot of resources so I just a ton of farmers and would use the market. My island was near a corner so people only found me while they were on the downfall. I swept in and crushed them all.

Its just so much fun cuz its like playing history! even though the Mongols never met the englsih

[Sputty]

Hamma is a secret weapon employed by the gaming industry to cost "friends"(Hamma's just a bot, that's why you see so many "." posts) milions of dollars.

On another note, Ghost will probably be a decent game, but I'll just rent it. I don't get why they aren't making Starcraft 2 right now.

[OneManArmy]

oh, I'm sure its being made, look how tight info on HL 2 was up untill a few weeks ago, most people didn't even know it exsisted letalone it was almost ready for a release

[Hamma]

ohno

[Warborn]

Flameseeker:
None were as good, although Strifeshadow was very close, it merely lacked a community and single-player campaign.

Funny you should say that. Tom Cadwell, one of the developers who worked on Strifeshadow, is a developer currently working on Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne.

Angelos:
No, I didn't get owned in starcraft. I refused to play. It wasn't that good compared to other games. I am not going to waste my time with a game knowing I can play other games that are better and more fun.

You have no opinion. All I've seen from your side of it is that you're "against The Man" in your gaming tastes. You don't like Blizzard because everyone else does. You don't play their games because everyone else does. You're biased, and therefore should not give an opinion on games in a thread where we don't all share your bias.

[Sputty]

pwned

[OneManArmy]

multiple times (if you look up) ;)

[UNEEDASSHOE]

Originally posted by OneManArmy
oh, I'm sure its being made, look how tight info on HL 2 was up untill a few weeks ago, most people didn't even know it exsisted letalone it was almost ready for a release
ive known about starcraft ghost for almost a year now so its not new news unless you live in Brazil or some shit like that but you know how it goes

[OneManArmy]

wow, uneedasshoe, way to get the facts wrong, that part of the convo was talking about Starcraft 2. cheers mate ;)

[mistled]

I know our boy has been pwned about three times already, but I'd just like to ask how anyone can say that WarCraft was popular because of cinematics?? I spent hours playing the damn tiny ass demo. It was like two stupid, simple levels that I couldn't get enough of and had to show all of my friends. There was nothing like it out there and it was that small little demo that put Blizzard on the map, not the cenematics.

btw, shouldn't people who dislike big games now have loved Blizzard back then?? Personally, I'd never even heard of them before that demo. (they did third party developing before that I think)

[Warborn]

I know our boy has been pwned about three times already, but I'd just like to ask how anyone can say that WarCraft was popular because of cinematics?? I spent hours playing the damn tiny ass demo. It was like two stupid, simple levels that I couldn't get enough of and had to show all of my friends. There was nothing like it out there and it was that small little demo that put Blizzard on the map, not the cenematics.

The demo was cool. I like it especially because it explains how the Island Trolls got hooked up with the Horde.

btw, shouldn't people who dislike big games now have loved Blizzard back then?? Personally, I'd never even heard of them before that demo. (they did third party developing before that I think)

Yeah, the company was tiny back in the day when they were actually called Silicon and Synapse. They did a lot of stuff like ports etc, made a few games (ex. The Lost Vikings), and got noticed from there. I guess people just like to hop on the bandwagon though, hating anything that's successful for poor reasons. I mean, I could see if Blizzard started releasing game after game, all of which were poor quality, and charged money for Battle.net or something greedy like that, but they don't. Hell, they even go the extra mile to make all their games Mac compatible. It's stupid that they should be hated by people simply because they have a following and aren't some underdog, no-name company which is better than everyone else, but doesn't do well because they're being unfairly treated by publishers/customers, or some other angsty BS like that.

[UNEEDASSHOE]

Originally posted by OneManArmy
wow, uneedasshoe, way to get the facts wrong, that part of the convo was talking about Starcraft 2. cheers mate ;)

oops my bad:confused: i guess i should make im always wrong on everything or right either way