Exp is too fast!

[Hijinks]

I thought the point of the xp changes was to lower the leveling speed.

If that was the goal, it was totally unsuccessful.

http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?worldId=15&charId=274403

This guy is already level 14! We will have level 20's within the week!

[Hamma]

You can do anything if you play 24/7

either that or he found an XP exploit

[Hijinks]

Lets do a little math.

He has 337666 xp.

400 Kills.

Lets say he is working alone so there is no exp splitting.

Avg 100 xp per kill. Thats 40,000 xp.

337666 - 40000 = 297666

Now he has 38 base caps.

297666 / 38 = ~7833

So he averages 7833 exp PER BASE CAP assuming that he ISN"T in a squad?

I think hamma is on to something.

[Ridah]

I read that people were teaming up with enemy factions and capping bases. Then the enemy dude would resecure and they would move over to the next base.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Exactly. Some PS gamers actually don't have jobs. :p

edit - Teaming up with enemy factions? Wow... that's one way to do it. :o

[Banditman]

The only people punished by the new experience system are the average players.

The "all day" gamers are STILL going to hit high battle rank very quickly.

The exploiters are STILL going to hit high battle rank very quickly.

You and me are the ones who suffer in this new system. I try to play a couple hours a day. Not a HUGE amount, but a fair amount. I will be MONTHS getting to where I was (twice) in beta.

I'd love for a Dev to explain to me how that is "fair" or "balanced". Unfortunately, they suspended my account for pointing this out.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Originally posted by Banditman
The only people punished by the new experience system are the average players.

The "all day" gamers are STILL going to hit high battle rank very quickly.

The exploiters are STILL going to hit high battle rank very quickly.

You and me are the ones who suffer in this new system. I try to play a couple hours a day. Not a HUGE amount, but a fair amount. I will be MONTHS getting to where I was (twice) in beta.

I'd love for a Dev to explain to me how that is "fair" or "balanced". Unfortunately, they suspended my account for pointing this out.

What??? They suspended your account? Please, do tell this story in as much detail as possible. :confused:

[TheEvilBlight]

Odd, he certed in med assault, combat engy, reinforced and reaver?

Reaver explains the kills...

[Banditman]

Glad to.

I was one of the ones on the Planetside forums yesterday who was heavily in favor of fixing the Experience system.

Sporkfire shows up and declares that all the discussion of the Exp system must stop. He says he will lock or delete all threads dealing with it.

I posted a thread asking if he really thought he could delete or lock all the threads dealing with the experience system. He stated that yes he could and would and in fact could do more. He then locked my thread.

Ok, fine. I continued to post in other threads my opinions about the experience system. Those threads were soon locked as well. I had to step away to *gasp* do some actual work @ work. I come back and my account is suspended. No notice as to why. No explanation. No indication of how long.

Now, if they were just suspending my right to post on the forums, fine. However, they also prevented me from even playing. This, I must say, is on the verge of utter gheyness.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Banditman - that is completely preposterous and totally unacceptable. Are you a member of a particular outfit? The only reason I'm asking is that we really need to bring this matter out in the open. I'm going to copy and paste what you just said at my own outfit's forums and even in a particular alliance forum with nearly 1,000 members. I suggest others do the same. The devs had no right to silence anyone. Aren't we the ones that are supporting their paychecks. Is it not their responsibility to keep all of us (the gamers) happy? I'm absolutely shocked.

Watch... the devs are going to see this post and suspend my account now as well. :o

[kerosene31]

Yeah it doesn't surprise me. It just takes someone to play constantly. With college out, lots of students are home with nothing to do. Basically if someone just goes and caps bases all day, they are going to level very fast.

It isn't really a problem that bothers me. This game isn't like other games like DaoC where the high level players dominate. I'm perfectly happy go along at my low level as long as I can compete. Last night I stopped worrying about xp and just went out and had fun. I got into a big battle over a tower which was a lot of fun. Of course, towers are meaningless xp wise, but it was a blast.

[Banditman]

Well, had I been ABLE to play for long enough to actually FORM my outfit, yes.

I am the captain of "The Templars". We've been around since 1997 playing games from NetMech, to Tribes, to MechWarrior 4, to Tribes 2 . . . and perhaps to Planetside.

I'd love to see us go to Planetside, but it's pretty freakin hard to encourage your teammates to pick the game up when the team captain is suspended from play.

[Airlift]

Now, if they were just suspending my right to post on the forums, fine. However, they also prevented me from even playing. This, I must say, is on the verge of utter gheyness.

:nod:

It is definately shitty for them to jump over forum suspension, but your mistake was in choice of forum. Sony brass isn't going to let negative publicity be generated on their servers and bandwidth whether the devs are still looking for more opinions on it or not. It is irrelevent that you like the game, they will take whatever action they feel is necessary to make it stop. The idea is that a fewer suspended customers is better than a greater number of dissuaded potentials.

They probably aren't reading these threads anymore anyway. Undoubtedly they have a shit ton of feedback on the matter and aren't looking for more. I just hope that they take a step back, see which activities are rewarded in the system, and think about which activities should be rewarded to coax people into playing the fun way(s) again.

[Cyber]

Originally posted by Hijinks
Lets do a little math.

Lets say he is working alone so there is no exp splitting.



Lets assume he's instead working in a squad which is still imo the best way to get XP.

Avg 10 xp per kill. Thats 4,000 xp.

But, lets say the rest of his squad averages at least 350 kills during the same period of time and there are 9 of them.

That's 31,500 more XP.

Now he has 38 base caps.

Lets take a conservative estimate for base XP.

38 * 2000 = 76,000

Now we have 111500 XP still unaccounted for.

He could have done 92 base resecures to make this up at 1,200 a resecure. Of course I don't think the number of base captures is deadly accurate because I don't think my own base capture number takes into account bases I wasn't in for the hack occuring or something because I noticed a gap in the # of bases I had gotten XP for and the # of bases counted as 'captured' by me. I think that as a result makes it doubtful any of these estimates is right. And I also think odds are he IS NOT exploiting.

Why? Cause I'm Battle Rank 10, I haven't been exploiting, I've got 29 base captures and 490 kills. I've been with a squad the entire time I've been playing and we haven't really even been pushing to get bases alot of the time (we easily get draw into tower wars ;) ) but if we had been hitting base after base and leaving anytime resistance became enough to slow us down and instead of staying moved to hit some easier base? I could have been BR14 by now easily enough.

http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?charId=273479&worldId=15

[OneManArmy]

no idea what all the posts are about, but I want to level fast, I want to get my certs and move on. I could care less about what level I am, this is a FPS, so honestly the faster I can vary my characters weapon loadout the better...

and I'd just liek to add that unicos sig fucking rocks. Greatest comic ever. period.

[Jarlo]

It will massively slow down at BR14 anyway. I played a long time last night and had alot of fun and several caps and got to br6. Thank god darklifght again!

[LesserShade]

Originally posted by OneManArmy
no idea what all the posts are about, but I want to level fast, I want to get my certs and move on. I could care less about what level I am, this is a FPS, so honestly the faster I can vary my characters weapon loadout the better...

^damn yes exactly.

[Happy lil Elf]

Wanna know how you too can level extremely fast? Talk to an enemy outfit and make a deal. You both split up over two bases. You then spend your time killing each other but with both bases being hacked and then resecured on a regular basis. At 1500+ exp per resecure, exp starts going up rather quickly.

[Noxx]

With such large problems of this nature this early in the game I think Planetside could quite possible be taking a nose dive to the shitter.

[Cyber]

Noxx, what large problem?

People who play advance faster then people who don't?

BR is pretty irrelavent anyway, just play the game. If you enjoy that great, if not well, probably time to find a new game.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Originally posted by Airlift
:nod:

It is definately shitty for them to jump over forum suspension, but your mistake was in choice of forum. Sony brass isn't going to let negative publicity be generated on their servers and bandwidth whether the devs are still looking for more opinions on it or not. It is irrelevent that you like the game, they will take whatever action they feel is necessary to make it stop. The idea is that a fewer suspended customers is better than a greater number of dissuaded potentials.

They probably aren't reading these threads anymore anyway. Undoubtedly they have a shit ton of feedback on the matter and aren't looking for more. I just hope that they take a step back, see which activities are rewarded in the system, and think about which activities should be rewarded to coax people into playing the fun way(s) again.

What about feedback in general? Is there a way besides the forums (the most practical way) to continue to give feedback to the developers without getting your account suspended? Heh.

[Banditman]

Originally posted by Unico

What about feedback in general? Is there a way besides the forums (the most practical way) to continue to give feedback to the developers without getting your account suspended? Heh.

No, I cannot post at all, I cannot play at all. I can post here, but that certainly doesn't get my point across to the developers.

Now I read the forums and find that the same issue that got my account suspended is STILL being discussed. I'd like to know how many accounts have been suspended.

I feel a bit singled out because I had a strong opinion. Was I upset and angry about the topic at hand? Certainly I was. Did I continue to express myself in unlocked topics? Absolutely. None of those things should suspend my ability to play the game. If they were really frustrated, fine, remove my ability to post. But to take away my ability to play a game I paid for is ludicrous.

[Airlift]

I doubt we are seeing the beginning of a nose dive into the shitter. Before this game would ever get close to the can, we would see a few things:

1. A restructuring of the Reward System, the flaws of which were irrelevent in the artificially bloated advancement rate of beta, but dominant over other issues at current rates.

2. Price discounts in either the boxed game or the monthly rate. I don't think rate changes are coming, but the box price will probably plummet if the game starts to have problems.

3. Accelerated content releases. This is likely to be the first and most common measure taken to thwart retention problems.

[Airlift]

Bandit, have you called the SOE support number? They have to at least tell you the duration of your suspension, even if they can't tell you a real reason for it, right?

[tmartinez72]

I thought the leveling would be slowed down for us real-life 8-5 working stiffs. To tell the truth, I'm leveling FASTER now than I was in beta!!!

Why? The humungeous cap bep. From getting 300-500 at the end of beta, I get 2000-5000!!! All I do is look at where we have a hack, go there, and camp. I'll fight if there's baddies (hopefully there is a lot to increase bep).

[LesserShade]

^yeah, but here's the catch. You have to find yourself a zerg swarm to get that kind of XP. Last night I was following my outfit all over the world and we were the underdogs in every battle which inevitably meant over the course of like 4 hours i got like from BR5.0 to BR5.8

[AcidCat]

Originally posted by kerosene31
Last night I stopped worrying about xp and just went out and had fun. .

I learned this lesson in beta. The best way to really enjoy the gameplay is to stop being a slave to exp.

[Banditman]

Oh, you can bet I'm gonna have a "chat" with one of the "Customer Service" people as soon as they open.

They are gonna have to give me a legit reason for sure. Right now it simply looks like I am getting screwed.

I may just grab the "friend" key and give that a try, though it would suck that all the experience I gain there would mean nothing for my main character.

[Plato]

That's fuct, they need to let you back in the game. As for XP it appears the major lvls are 6 and 12. After that XP doesn't really matter much at all.

You cannot carry around all that much in the way of weapons, equipment or conjure vehicles at any moment...so having BR will never make anyone uber but the implants are nice. I find myself with a very well-rounded character at BR12.

I'm BR5 right now and I want DL so bad!

[IDgaf]

Bandit,

Just post your story all over the web. Sony are stopping you playing for having an opinion. That is a very, very, bad idea on Sony's behalf.

Go and look at the Ts&Cs and find out where it says they can do that. It will say that. Be prepared for them to wave that in your face.

This is a big story guys. It's not just about planetside, it's about Sony's recently financial problems (posting lower than expected profits), the massmarket of online gaming and people being exposed to new ecommerce models.

If Sony continue to do this when people are outside their free beta period, that's when you can really make shit hit the fan.


IDgaf.

[Bodhidharma]

Do you realize just how many companies are reporting "lower than expected profits"? It's just not SOE. It's the state of the market right now.

Him being banned has nothing to do with SOE market price, their PEI, or anything else profit related.

[Hamma]

With all due respect, they can do whatever they want to. Its their forums, their game, their rules. Freedom of speech does not apply, if they say something should not be discussed, then it should not be discussed.

Thats one of the many reasons we have these forums, do discuss stuff freely without getting banned.

In short, I don't dissagree with what they did.

[kerosene31]

Bandit - honestly you might want to just give Sony a call and give them a quick "I'm sorry and I won't do it again". I'm not saying they were right or you were wrong, but that is probably the easiest way to get back in the game. Anyway good luck.

[Seer]

I have to agree with Hamma on this one. Spork called for discussion to stop in a forum he controlled, and you ignored him. Welcome to banville, that's the way it goes.

[BeerJedi]

On the XP deal. If someone is playin' 24-7 (or close to it) stays near all the hotspots and keeps in a large 10 man squad.

He's gonna get that XP. I've noticed you receive XP when your own squad mates die. You get near BR4 just from runnin' the trainers.

You can do ANT runs which give a nice load of XP. I don't think there is an exploit out there (could be) but this is also a game where BR doesn't mean a thing. I'm BR5 now and i'm just as effective as any of my brethern of higher BR. I'm now shootin' down reavers that come near me, i popped three vanguards on foot last night. MAXs should run from me, i've got 30 of 'em already (i didn't see combat until mid BR3 btw).

So, everyone, just breathe.

Now as for SOE reaction to Bandit. I agree with Hamma's statement.

[Banditman]

I might not have a problem with it either, provided someone had provided a "if you post again Im going to suspend your account".

However, this was done without warning. I posted EXACTLY three items after the threads started getting locked. THREE. Only one was a "New Post". The others were just responses.

Does this not seem "over the top" to you?

[Seer]

Bandit, I can sympathize with you, but the idea that there will be consequences if you continue posting against a forum moderator's wishes is implicit. While it would be nice and polite to say that further posting will result in suspension, I imagine Sporkfire wasn't in a nice and polite mood after you openly questioned his authority.

[Mold]

err nm

[Chanfan]

Do I like what they did to you? No.

Can they do it? Most certainly, it's their boards / game, and in their user agreements.

Were you over the top? Well, yes and no. I think it's pretty obvious that if they've posted "no more discussion on X topic", that doesn't mean you can continue to discuss it - even if someone else started the thread - just because they haven't been quick enough to lock or delete the thread yet. They warned, and you crossed the line not once, but three times. I'm sure they feel justified.

Others kept doing it and didn't get banned? That's called being unlucky. Just because others are speeding on the freeway doesn't mean you get out of your speeding ticket.

But as I said, do I like it? Not a bit. It galls me, certainly. It flies in the face of the idea of freedom of speech to lock and delete opinions they are tired of, or don't like. But, it's not against the (US) law of freedom of speech - as it's their private property, to do with as they like.

I seem to recall in EQ, that not only were accounts banned for in game exploits, and in Sony forum postings, but for postings on other forums, IIRC.

I recall one case of "slash" fan fiction - that is, some fiction set in EQ posted on a privately run (but publicly accessible) message board. Slash being erotic or pornographic fan fiction. The person who posted it got banned from his EQ account for misusing copyrighted characters (races and gods in EQ). Caused quite a stir at the time.

There were some other EQ bannings that came across as pretty unfair or aggressive. One does have to remember that you generally only hear the banned players side of things, so a dash of skepticism is called for. But, their certainly have been a few that seemed way out of proportion to the crime (such as engaging in behavior you thought was "good tactics" that turns out to be an exploit, and getting perma-banned).

Sony can and will ban folks - they have a history of it. Anyone got any good EQ examples, so folks know what to expect and watch out for?

[LesserShade]

I have to side with bandit here. It is one thing to ban someone from the forums because they disobey the wishes of the moderators, but a game ban too?? If that is in fact what happened, it is 100% complete bullshit. This isn't beta anymore, nobody is getting a free ride. Between the game cost and the monthly fees we're going to pay around $200 for the first year. $200 should buy you some level of assurance that you aren't going to get banned from the game in which you are paying too much money for when a dev has a temper tantrum over some forum posts.

[Hijinks]

If any of you tards don't think they are cheating, check out the screen shot in the first post of this thread.

http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/planetside/Forum7/HTML/000310.html

discussion over.

[Chanfan]

Originally posted by Mold
this may be their game, but he did pay for it. That would be like buying a truck and GM taking it away because you made it look ugly, and not giving you your money back.

Hmmm. Perhaps more like buying some left-handed swazzleback golf clubs, that only worked at GiantCo's Golf driving range.

Then going to the their driving range and continually shouting that "GiantCo's golf ball return system SUCKS!", after being told to stop.

Then not being allowed back on their driving ranges, so your left-handed swazzleback clubs are now useless.


Yes, a bit of a stretch, but the software paradigm is a bit odd�

[Banditman]

What I *really* have a problem with is being put in the same catagory as someone who steals an account key or uses massive exploits or attempts to hack the game.

That is crap. Look, I could probably swallow it if they just stopped me from posting, thats fine. But I just payed $55 for the game, let alone the upgrades that I bought for my PC that would certainly not have been needed for any other reason.

Once more . . . I didn't cheat, didn't hack, didn't steal. I simply stated an opinion on an open discussion board.

Wanna know what's even better? I did the "Online Chat" thing at station.com . . . here's the chat log, unedited. This conversation took well over an hour and at the end I was "hung up" on by the CSR:



You have been connected to CSR Chris R..
CSR Chris R.: Hello Brian, Thank you for contacting Sony Online Entertainment. One moment please, while I read your question. Thank You!
CSR Chris R.: How may I help you today?
Brian Starks: You did not receive my question?
Brian Starks: Still with me ?
Brian Starks: Chris?
Brian Starks: /me taps microphone
Brian Starks: "Is this thing on?"
CSR Chris R.: what is the problem
Brian Starks: My account has been suspended for some reason and I have no reason why.
CSR Chris R.: what is the station name
Brian Starks: banditman9876 . . . when I initiate chat here, all of this information is asked for . . . do you not receive it?
Brian Starks: O_o
CSR Chris R.: i do see that you are suspneded...
Brian Starks: and?
CSR Chris R.: I am sorry I do not see that
Brian Starks: So are you telling me I am suspended for "no reason"?
CSR Chris R.: i cannot find any records of that
Brian Starks: Am I being unreasonable in asking for some sort of reason?
Brian Starks: If I am suspended without reason I can only assume this is some sort of error and would like it corrected immediately.
Brian Starks: I have been a station member for quite some time, an EQ subscriber since the day it was released until April of this year.
Brian Starks: I dropped EQ to participate in Planetside, and now I cannot do that?
CSR Chris R.: I am still checking
Brian Starks: Would you prefer to chat on the phone?
Brian Starks: I'll be happy to give you a ring.
CSR Chris R.: I cannot find any info at at all on that
Brian Starks: I understand. I would like the suspension removed.
CSR Chris R.: let me have the account key
Brian Starks: I am not at home, however, I may have access to my home PC, let me check.
CSR Chris R.: well you will need to call in with the account key so I can find the account and investigate further
Brian Starks: It should be registered to my station ID should it not?
CSR Chris R.: yes, you are right but I wont to make sure that account key matches the station name given...
Brian Starks: How about we verify it with CC information instead, since I do have my wallet here?
Brian Starks: Or perhaps I can give you the order numbers or something else out of my station account history.
CSR Chris R.: I need the account key
Brian Starks: May I ask why you need that information as opposed to any other form of verification?
Brian Starks: It seems you simply wish to assure yourself that the person you are chatting with is banditman9876.
CSR Chris R.: that is true
Brian Starks: As I've said, I am at work and do not have access to any of my game items at present. However, I think that there are other means of assuring you that I am who I say I am.
Brian Starks: Perhaps the billing address ?
CSR Chris R.: well you will have to contact us when you have the information that I am requesting
Brian Starks: You seem to be a bit unreasonable . . . have I offended you in some way ?
CSR Chris R.: I need this to look and verify this account
Brian Starks: Can you at least give me a phone number so that when I am at home this won't take an hour ?
CSR Chris R.: 858-537-0898
CSR Chris R.: Ok Brian, Is there anything else I can help you with today?
Brian Starks: I had certainly hoped that you could have utilized some other form of id, since I can provide you with all of the account details except the one you have asked for.
Brian Starks: Who should I ask for at that number ?
Brian Starks: For obvious reasons I want to talk to someone who is familiar with this incident so that it might expedite the clarification of this problem.
Brian Starks: I am waiting ......
CSR Chris R.: yes but I am trying to assist and find out why you are suspended
Brian Starks: I understand, I merely wish to know who to ask for when I call in with the information you requested. For obvious reasons I don't want to go thru the whole thing again.
CSR Chris R.: the account is suspended
Brian Starks: Yes, we agreed on that an hour ago.
Thank you for using InstantService. You may now close this window.

[Winged_Nazgul]

What's really impressive about this guy which nobody has mentioned is that he is also CR1. Which means to get the CEPs necessary to advance to CR1, he had to forgo the huge BEP bounties he would've gotten from taking and resecuring bases. In other words, he should be ranked even higher if he didn't also lead a few squads along the way.

Wow, I thought I needed to get a life. :)

[Banditman]

Actually CR1 is pretty easy to get. It only takes 4 or 5 good base caps to get if you are in a 10 man squad.

[Winged_Nazgul]

Yes, but you're also giving up the BEP from those caps at the same time.

[Matuse]

Just post your story all over the web. Sony are stopping you playing for having an opinion. That is a very, very, bad idea on Sony's behalf.

Pfft, Sony won't really care. He abused the direct wishes of an admin, and he got the back of Sony's hand for it. Good for THEM. I'd have done the same. In comparison with what they have done in the past, this is nothing. It was alluded to above...someone posts a story on a non-sony forum involving eq-like characters which is rather barbarically violent, and he got his account banned.

Anyway, reading that chat log, Bandit: Have you read it since you actually had the conversation? I don't think you were clearly comprehending what was going on there. The guy said several times that your account was NOT suspended, and that he could find no record that it had been. Further, he wasn't being irrational about asking for the account key. If that is what they are based on, then that is is...the billing address on your credit card isn't even something that he would know, nevermind be able to use as verification. The entire conversation had a feeling of you being pissed off and taking it out on him, and he was just trying to do his job.

Later on, he said you were suspended, not banned. Have you checked your email-of-record for the account? They always send out letters for suspensions giving vague details on the why, and also telling how long you are suspended for, as well as specific steps on what you can do to help rectify the situation.

[MiP]

Originally posted by Banditman

Wanna know what's even better? I did the "Online Chat" thing at station.com . . . here's the chat log, unedited. This conversation took well over an hour and at the end I was "hung up" on by the CSR:

That is the worst customer support I've ever seen. If your chat log is really uneditted (and I'm not saying it isn't), how come it took an hour for that little dialog to occur? Were you left waiting 5 minutes between each response?

I definately want to hear how things work out for you Banditman. Getting suspended from playing the game is complete rubbish. If SOE is having a tough time with profits or slower than expected Planetside sales, they are making things much worse for themselves by taking it out on subscribers. If they are getting cocky because sales are on target or higher than expected, they really need to do an attitude check before the market does a 180 on them. No matter what, they live and die by consumers choice.

[Nekota]

The XP and Ranks are irrelevent. One of the beauties of Planetside is that Rank doesn't mean anything. If you want to a be a Medic you can be one before you leave Sanctuary just in VR training alone. By Rank 5 you can start piloting a vehicle (maybe not a Reaver but anything else). So let's say you do get to Rank 20 all that means is you have more options. You can't really do them all at once though. So it's not important if you can do everything. What's important is that you can do something well.

[Seer]

LesserShade, they're probably within their rights to do so, if they deem forum posts 'player activity' by a certain account, under section 6 of the EULA.

6. We may terminate this Agreement (including your Software license and your Account) and/or suspend your Account immediately and without notice if you breach this Agreement or repeatedly infringe any third party intellectual property rights, or if we are unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide to us, or upon gameplay, chat or any player activity whatsoever which we, in our sole discretion, determine is inappropriate and/or in violation of the spirit of the Game as set forth in the Game player rules of conduct, which are posted at a hotlink located at www.planetside.com.

All in all, it sounds like banditman was suspended, not banned. If that is the case, he simply needs to wait out the suspension.

[Ouroboros]

http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?charId=291835&worldId=15
Take a look at that and tell me what you think.

[Navaron]

HFS- I could see being br 12 by now, but only 13 kills - EXPLOIT CITY!!

I say we make a posse, find these guys, and kill them all night.

And about the account thing - that kinda stuff is one of the many reasons people hate sony. Personally, I think they have the right to do it, but it wasn't the right thing to do. They shoulda warned you at least. But reading that transcript, you don't seem like you're being all that helpful either.

[Pilgrim]

Y'know...

How the Hell do you get to BR12 with 13 kills and 10 Facility hacks...

I'm an honest hard fighting monkey, so here's what it looks like

http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?charId=275080&worldId=15

I don't get that, but the hack thing has always seemed a bit off to me anyway.

All of that done in squads, and honestly thank you very much!

And BTW TR FEAR ME!!!!

[Plato]

13 kills? REF, AV and sniping... There's going to be people with a higher BR than kills soon before they hit 20..

Check out these from http://boards.station.sony.com


--------- Greggor----------

How do they do it? I think many have heard of it already, more will soon. You take your squad, block out a cap room physically to deny access to enemy OR FRIENDLY soldiers. Then, a 2nd account with an opposing faction character or a willing enemy joins your squad in the cap room. You protect him from any friendlies trying to kill him because you need him to stay alive. Your enemy patsy hacks the base, your squad hacks it back. Advanced hackers on each side, so it takes 60 secs to ping-pong the base once. Wash, rinse, repeat. Bring the beer, chat it up, ping-pong, ping-pong.

-------- Nekota ------------

Ohh it gets worse. Last night while piloting my Mosquito around I came across a NC wearing standard armor who took out one our guys (Terrain Republic). His name was Anermerix or something to that effect. He then proceeded (while under constant fire) to KNIFE a MAX, knife a Spitfire Turret and then start shooting at me with his pistol. The whole time under constant fire and he never dropped. Right now that's the only time I've seen this but, god forbid this starts becoming more common.

------------ TrueBluey-------

This morning I logged in my char which happened to be in Hossin.
It was locked by the NC. BUT the base I was in happened to be just the hacked by the TR.

Weird I thought.

So I run upstairs. While doing so the base was rescured. Then it was hacked again. Then resecured.

You get the picture. I witnessed this done more than 10 times inside 2 minutes. Finally I reached the top and found some TR and NC. They all turned around and shot me.

My guess is that this is some cheap exploit to get BEPs fast.

[IDgaf]

What Sony are doing is a bad idea. It might be legal - totally legal - but it's not a good idea.

I work for a multinational that is reasonably big - over 12 million customers in the country I'm in alone, plus many others in associated companies.

Much of what I do is about customer experience. There has to be a 'superlative' customer experience that customers to come back. The customer experience starts from the moment they enter the shop,through the purchase, the first time they ring up with a post-purchase query and beyond.

Now, while it's probable that the people complaining about XP will be swamped by people who don't care about it at all - and thus subs will remain high - it's still not good practice for Sony to out-and-out ignore the angry people.

So what do you do? Placate the angry people. Reason with them. Take them aside. Don't, though, ignore them or put them on hold.

Falling back on actions that can be justified by Ts&Cs should be a last resort. Sony are starting off on the wrong foot and for an untested product in a choppy market, that's a bad idea.

I'm going to get my copy of PlanetSide this weekend hopefully and see what the system is like. My concern is that if I do have a problem (whatever it may be), I would like to feel assured that that problem will be addressed fairly and promptly.

It could be about any issue. Just let us know we'll be heard. Manage our expectations fairly, realistically and we'll be happier for it.

IDgaf.

[2coasts]

banditman, try death threats to the dev's families and children, that should work.

[ReneG8]

Well that would be the same behaviour he showed in the official forums, and which made him to be suspended, and now he shows himself here as the mistreated one.

well use the devtracker, i followed his posts a while. He was quite offensive towards sporkfire.
Although i cant understand why they suspended him from game, a single forum ban would have been enough.

[2coasts]

I think though that SOE may be in breach of contract, they are denying him a service that he paid for, does it say anywhere in the lisence agreement that the game service can be revoked for disobedience on the online forum?

[ObnoxiousFrog]

I dunno.
From what I'm hearing, SOE is a Stalanist dictatorship which purges all radical upstarts who could ruin their ideal prtrait of themselves.

[ReneG8]

The REALLY Annoying Frog is right ;)

No honestly, i doubt that they arent allowed to ban certain people. They have some � (paragraphs) in their users licence which should allow them these actions.
Otherwise they could be dragged to court, because the servers had a 5 minute downtime, for example. That would also be a denial of service.
So i think there are some Backdoors in their agreement. Still i doubt that they are allowed to ban some1, and get that 1 punished another time by paying for time he didnt play. In other words, Banditman should atleast be payed or stuff, for his personal downtime.

as for all of my posts i apologize if i didnt met the point, as english is not my native language!

[vawlk]

Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff
The devs had no right to silence anyone. Aren't we the ones that are supporting their paychecks. Is it not their responsibility to keep all of us (the gamers) happy? I'm absolutely shocked.

You didn't read the EULA or the Forum Rules did ya...

They can silence anyone they want on their system.

They don't have to keep us happy...they just have to supply a game. Can't keep everyone happy.

[vawlk]

Originally posted by Hamma
Thats one of the many reasons we have these forums, do discuss stuff freely without getting banned.

you are a loser!


:) j/k

[Matuse]

Sony can ban your account because one of the sysadmins had a bad cup of coffee that morning, and there is nothing you could do about it.

[PapaRoach]

I am one of the ppl who is reading this in disgust I have seen this happen to other MMORPG's if something is going on in the company or aload of ppl have a complant the company will try and shut it up by banning/suspending people.

Pure And Simple
PapaRoach

[Incubus]

U from Vacaville PRoach?

[PapaRoach]

Originally posted by Incubus
U from Vacaville PRoach?

Vacaville, CA no lolz unless your emplying something else I am over in Tucson Arizona, But I am from england.

Peace
PapaRoach

[Incubus]

Ahh, Ok.

[instant]

Originally posted by Banditman
I might not have a problem with it either, provided someone had provided a "if you post again Im going to suspend your account".

However, this was done without warning. I posted EXACTLY three items after the threads started getting locked. THREE. Only one was a "New Post". The others were just responses.

Does this not seem "over the top" to you?

Well, When you see the SOE reps' in their gestapo uniforms you'll learn not to say your thoughts out loud, or even think them.

SOE - you either accept and agree or you try to keep silent.

I bet they're going to go on a witch hunt and ban players who 'diss' the game in fan forums as well.. Would'nt surprise me at least.

Wonder if SOE got some of the old UO GM's to join their order.

Well, sorry about your ban, they did'nt want to discuss the XP system in Beta Either.

[instant]

Originally posted by LesserShade
I have to side with bandit here. It is one thing to ban someone from the forums because they disobey the wishes of the moderators, but a game ban too?? If that is in fact what happened, it is 100% complete bullshit. This isn't beta anymore, nobody is getting a free ride. Between the game cost and the monthly fees we're going to pay around $200 for the first year. $200 should buy you some level of assurance that you aren't going to get banned from the game in which you are paying too much money for when a dev has a temper tantrum over some forum posts.

One of the reasons the DEV team should be kept FAR away from the Customers after release.

[instant]

Originally posted by Nekota
The XP and Ranks are irrelevent. One of the beauties of Planetside is that Rank doesn't mean anything. If you want to a be a Medic you can be one before you leave Sanctuary just in VR training alone. By Rank 5 you can start piloting a vehicle (maybe not a Reaver but anything else). So let's say you do get to Rank 20 all that means is you have more options. You can't really do them all at once though. So it's not important if you can do everything. What's important is that you can do something well.

You have not played the game enough to say something like "rank does'nt mean anything".

Rank means everything.

[ThEOnLyOnE]

Originally posted by instant
You have not played the game enough to say something like "rank does'nt mean anything".

Rank means everything.


Respect... but not for getting in the action.. doing your thing..
and getting your killz..

[Destroyeron]

He has no life.


I have no life either....yay!

[eM_Xenon]

Originally posted by instant
You have not played the game enough to say something like "rank does'nt mean anything".

Rank means everything.

I completely agree ranks mean ALOT.... Hmm so does rank not matter when i have my surge and second wind and darklight implants. Engineer,medic,adv hacker,reinforced,med assault,heavy assault,specail assault?

That means i have more powerful guns can fix myself and repair myself or just hack what i need. Its like a sqaud in one person. no br5 can touch that. or br10 for that matter.