NC = Owned

[powdahound]

So true. :p

[Powerflux]

Aye. =/

[powdahound]

Hopefully the devs will see the stats and everything and realize that something should be changed. ;)

[CosmicBlend]

Yes the NC get hammered..

[Seer]

Oops. I'm going to edit this post out. I was reading the graph wrong.

:o

[NoSurrender]

hey powda lets take pity on the Vanu they really get theyre ass kicked ;) we all know its true cmon ppl admit it and BTW TR Pwnz

[NoSurrender]

yay im a veteran finally a ranking to be semi proud of yay ~hands out cookies~

[Trol]

I think not. Wait utnil you get hit by HEL. We do all the owning ;)

[Hype]

No, look at the stats.....NC sucks hard, pure and simple. Overpowered TR is dominating everything.

[Hellsfire123]

two biggest outfits on emerald are NC. Sturmgrenadier and Retards with sticks both number close to 300. Dont know why i practically never see NC, im always fighting TR.

Somethings obviously wrong though, as the TR presence always seems to be HUGE in battle. I think they are loggin alot more time then the rest of us.

[Crono]

True, but it's not like anyone needs to look into it... The NC will come back sooner or later. (me = got pwned by some NC earlier)

[powdahound]

I can't believe those two top NC teams with like 300 members... The outfit ranking system is pretty lame, because they really shouldn't be at the top. It should require skill, not mass recruiting to get lots of points.

[NoSurrender]

The reason you always see TR is alot of troops will head to one place (we are very organized) i see alot of the same players at bases (sputty i see some CDL alot etc etc)

[Yuyi]

we always get owned on emerald :(

[Arakiel]

Oh, yeah. TR is dominating because they're "organized." Not because the striker/cycler/TR MAXes are ridiculously overpowered.

I end up fighting almost nothing but TR and it's tiring - the sheer amount of Striker troops that sit there and talk about their ub4hl33t skills is sickening.

[2coasts]

In my experience, the NC are much more persistant enemies than the Vanu.

[MJBuddy]

ya, sadly i think NC has some good qualities...however i find many of us lack common intelligence to do basic strategic manuvers

hell, if a vanu goes for the generator i see everyone flee while i scream "ITS A DISTRACTION" in the chat box and kill off 3 cloaked units making their way to the CC...pathetic really

[Powerflux]

It might be my commanding. :D

http://home.attbi.com/~powerflux/battlescribbles1.jpg

[Sputty]

Originally posted by Arakiel
Oh, yeah. TR is dominating because they're "organized." Not because the striker/cycler/TR MAXes are ridiculously overpowered.

I end up fighting almost nothing but TR and it's tiring - the sheer amount of Striker troops that sit there and talk about their ub4hl33t skills is sickening.
Guass is better than the Cycler in anything but point blank range fighting meaning I see a guy with a Guass and I run at him guns a blazing as if I play it safe and crouch and fire back I'm dead.
The Striker is on par with the Phoenix and Lancer(the most balanced weapon class in the game IMO. Lancer can snipe infantry adn do well against armor. Striker can lock on a nd shoot fast making it good against MAXes while Phoenixes can fire from cover and has more power per shot. MAXes don't decide the battle. They're basically n00b weapons or for defense after getting the hack. They're big flashing targets outside and inside a deimator can kill a MAX pretty damn fast. Yes, I play TR and often chat to other commanders as we decide to attack one base. So we are pretty organised I think when we attack. I've become familiar with certain commanders and they have to me. We are able to plan attacks(not coordination but just "Let's take this place") and the rest of the people follow us in. Also, it matters the time. I was playing at around 4-7 today and the NC and VS were owning us forcing us to oull back to single towers and causing fun but losing battles. The funny thing is there was no communication then at all. No other commanders were really on. They lock Ishundar and that's when I said "fuck it" and went to sleep. Don't blame it on weapons. I could whine about the MagRider and thge Vanguard but I understand they they are tehre for balancing overall.

[PeregineDive]

LOL - nice job commanding Powerflux. I envy the NC now b/c of that... :D


-PD

[Matri00]

my opinion is that VS has the best weapons (and not overpowered)...the lancer is much better then the pheonix and the striker....with a few shots of their weapons u kill almost anything and almost every VS weapon has splash damage so u can kill a group of 5 peeps easily...NC weapons - good....TR weapons - hopeless....

[DigitalDeviant]

Like previously stated.. If NC got just a little organized.. we could easily dominate.

[Onizuka]

As I have said, there are thousands of players coming and going every hour, so how can they be "organized" So what we have people yelling over global chat, even if people did listen it really wouldnt help that much.

[DigitalDeviant]

well.. uhh.. maybe people need to listen and assemble.. RavenUSC3 seems to be a good commander but no one wants to play as a team.. Just like defending.. people let TR rip through the home continents because they can fight and get xp for them later.. its kinda stupid.. a little bit of teamwork goes along way.

[Franchize]

First off I play for the Terran Republic on Emerald. In my oppinion I think that the New Conglomerate are some of the toughest most organized opponents I have faced. They seem to be more organized than any force I have encountered, with well coordinated attacks, and a dogged determination. They are most worthy advesaries.

The most organzied squad level tactics I have seen, have been from the Vanu, although their large scale attacks seem half hearted and they don't seem to follow through. What's kinda cool is that each of the factions seem to be developing their own characteristics. I will admit that the Terran Republic seem to have the advantage in numbers overall on Emerald, and it seems that the primary method of attack is a massive human wave, or zerging as it has come to be known. Many outfits, like the one I am proud to be in use some good team tactics and we like to move in together as a cohesive unit, but even our outfit finds itself breaking down and just making a made rushes to the enemy lines using brute force of numbers to wear the enemy down.

The NC on the other hand are formidable with their vehcile tactics and will make full use of their Vangaurds, Lightinings, and Sunderers as armored units supporting each other, often sending two such battle groups to outflank a position and then moving in for the kill.

Despite what many think, as a Dual Cycler MAX our MAX is not the best overall MAX, now before you flame me for this, let me state that defensively the Cycler MAX is incredibly effective and is better than any MAX in the game, but it is not so on the offense. It is too slow, and it's special firing mode requires me to anchor in one position and as everyone knows immobility=death in Planetside. The most effective MAX's I have seen in the game hands down are the Vanu MAX's. In the hands of a skilled player they are truely frightening. They have the mobility to outmanuver most TR soldiers in Reinforced Exo-suits.

If any faction gets a boost I believe it should be the Vanu, as they definitley need improvements to their weapon damage and vehcile toughness. I have tried all of the anti vehcile weapons, and IMO the Striker is the best by far, with its ability to lock on a target and guide the missle in for the hit. The Lancer though very accurate and with some effective damage is far too slow and the Phoenix is just way too underpowered for it's rate of fire and though you can manually guide the missile it is not very accurate.

Right now the biggest problem facing the NC is being outnumbered by the TR. However, I have found that in the battles we do lose, it is due to better tactics and organization by the other side, rather than weapons or equipment. Even when we have outnumbered a well organized Vanu or NC force we have been beaten if the other side coordinates and operates in a cohesive force, due to the TR's tendency to simply "zerg" forward.

These are just my observations from the game, and I really have enjoyed reading this thread. Very good points by everyone.

[MJBuddy]

**bows** good post franchise

we call it the gate floods, being when we secure a home cont of TR and they figure it out, we bunker down at their warpgate and watch the flood of people jam through and go strait for the base

[Neon Apocalypse]

2day the vanu had attacked oshur, took the whole thing, it was previously controlled by NC, and we took it, THAT IS PERSISTANT.

[MJBuddy]

so ur bragging about taking back one of your home continents? o ur good now, u took bases on a continent that u can go strait to without hart or transport...how hard and full of skillz u must be

[ZionsFire]

nc arent that bad:(

[ZionsFire]

or are we:confused:

[Flashingfish]

Originally posted by DigitalDeviant
well.. uhh.. maybe people need to listen and assemble.. RavenUSC3 seems to be a good commander but no one wants to play as a team.. Just like defending.. people let TR rip through the home continents because they can fight and get xp for them later.. its kinda stupid.. a little bit of teamwork goes along way.

You think raven is a good commander? What are you smoking? Ok so maybe he's a good commander to new people or those who don't look at the map.

"TR are hacking [insert base]!"
"We need an ant at [insert base]!"
"Attacking [insert base] on [insert continent]!"

Wow... great commanding.

[MJBuddy]

well, that is being a great commander. He doesnt take credit for winning it all, he says he is just tellin us what commanders tell him

[powdahound]

We now own instead of get owned... :lol:

Hopefully they can balance things out a tad more. :) It's definitely getting closer, vanu needs a little boost tho.

[NoSurrender]

nooo way powda vanu are doing alot better i remember fighting them on hossin on the 21st and we had to fight HARD and when i was on today on cyssor they fought hard (they have a stratagy Ram as many Magriders and Reavers as they can get down ur throat but i dont find i just shoot em down with my AA max) :)

[MJBuddy]

vanu are on the level now, i think TR needs more people because too many jumped ship

they can bitch about nerfing all they want, but they lost because they quit, not because of the downgrades

[Cease]

TR has the people. I think the problem is a lot of TR just feel NC is overpowered. Regardless of merit to that belief, its still there. So TR will go fight Vanu rather than NC. For example, over the weekend while NC was steamrolling Forseral and Ishunder, we had a population lock on Amerish. Maybe that doesnt mean anything, but it showed me the majority of TR would rather fight Vanu than NC.

It will probably get worse before it gets better. My outfit was fighting NC all weekend. We pretty much got our asses handed to us every step of the way. We were simply outnumbered. Needless to say, I doubt many of us are eager to fight NC anytime soon.

[MJBuddy]

well, vanu are having fun taking us on. Probably why TR go for them, they are bunkering down on us so bad its hard to travel from base to base without getting sniped or MAX raped

[Kaikou]

almost a month old thread while the first posts were "nc are getting owned"

currently I don't see the NC getting owned...I see the NC with double the population of the other 2 empires and owning 5-7 continents constantly on emerald.

The TR have been heavily occupying Amerish because it's the one continent that they don't have to deal with phoenix/jackhammer users. Those are the only 2 weapons I ever see the NC use...

[NoSurrender]

we use alotta gauss but trust me ive gotten owned many a time by a cycler and those god damn DC maxes pwn and i think its the ppl we had 37& while TR had 30% and VS had 34% see it is the people im tried of the bitching and the nerfing but all i see the TR use is Chaingun gauss and striker they love the striker

[MJBuddy]

well lets see, what 2 weapons would you use? those are our 2 special weapons that allow us to defend.

ya, some use gauss, like me. But i also use a sweeper **gasp** thats right, i dont use either of your 2 steriotypical weapons...

all i see are terrans weaing goggles....damn dirty no-dirt-in-thier-eyes terran...NERF TEH GOGGLES!

[Diddy Mao]

I'm no Psychcologist but I think it's called an Inferiority Complex! they were winn'n before the "Nerf the Terran Patch" then they got afraid before they could realize what had happened most have jumped ship to NC! so the original TR who stuck it out are outnumbered! "Not" outgunned they still have the best max's by far! The TR that are Still TR can't handle loosing cuz they were so use to winning either blame the Patch or the JH when it is sheer number's that gives them the disadvantage! Look at the Vanu always outnumbered but they have strategy lately! Terran Grit ur Teeth and give it another go! u can do it!:D

[Arakiel]

Originally posted by Kaikou

The TR have been heavily occupying Amerish because it's the one continent that they don't have to deal with phoenix/jackhammer users.

That's why the VS are often there, too. Well, that and the fact that the battles there are almost always centered around closely-clustered bases (Ikanam->Kyoi) and you tend to get 5k caps back and forth.

[Sputty]

Originally posted by Arakiel
That's why the VS are often there, too. Well, that and the fact that the battles there are almost always centered around closely-clustered bases (Ikanam->Kyoi) and you tend to get 5k caps back and forth.
Amerish owns. I play on Amerish almost always.

[Arakiel]

Yeah. I saw you there yesterday, I think. I think I said 'hi' or something equally witty, but you ignored me and BROKE MY HEART. :(

:( :(

[JLeeAZN]

Hahaha

[12tontuna]

TR Human wave attacks + NC Jackhammer users =


you do the math.



And FYI, although I have the Jackhammer cert, I prefer to use the Bolter OR the Suppressor. And I'm always in the starting armor as well, so don't gimme the "you got a backup weapon" crap.

Each empire uses what works best for them. The NC just got given the best HA cert. The TR have the best MA/Max (although the Vanu MA is nice now)...and the Vanu have the AV/DeathStar advantage.

Once the HA certs are finally worked out, everything will be much more fun.

[Bismarck]

Gotta love the cycler :) I use it more than the MCG. The cycler owns the MCG IMO. Its good at long distance, the MCG can't kill anything beyond 5 meters unless you're really good or really lucky. But if you get within 5 meters of a MCG you won't have to worry about it for too long.