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Black
2003-06-10, 12:07 PM
I was thinking about the bolt driver to be replaced with empire specfic sniper rifles any ideas for each empire?

heres mine:
TR: fires faster and has a lot of ammo
NC: has a good punch to each shot.
VS: fires the Laser and instanly goes to target but doesnt have much punch that the NC would have

Tell me your ideas thx


From:Black

Onizuka
2003-06-10, 12:10 PM
okay, the terrans would be a sniper-chaingun thats ownes from all distances and the NC would have a bolt driver (stays the same) and the VS would have a laser shooting one that when comes on contact burns like hell

Jarlo
2003-06-10, 12:16 PM
Don't forget the VS one would also light up when fired so a nice halo of light would surround the sniper after firing.

On a more serious note, the VS shot should do more vs armor than most sniper shots as well.

Searo
2003-06-10, 12:19 PM
NC: MAG-Sniper, kills Reinforced in one hit, 1-shot clip, loooong reload time, (6-8 seconds)
TR: Chaindriver, kills nothing in one hit, has a 20 bullet clip, fires rather slow, long range
VS: Warper, kills Standard one hit, instant shot "warps" plasma into the target, 2-shots, CoF contracts quickly, reload time of 5-7 seconds.

Black
2003-06-10, 12:29 PM
Some of these sniper rifles seem a little to powerful
e.g. VS

JakeLogan
2003-06-10, 12:36 PM
to true these rifles do sound to powerful I think they should set up like this NC basic bolt driver except with a 5 round clip major kick back due to its fire power though. TR 10 shot clip with weaker bullets. still has some kick back just not as bad as the NC boltdriver. VS basic laser sniper rifle long distance low kick back should have its problems though not sure what maybe power shortages?

beavis88
2003-06-10, 12:40 PM
IMHO, the bolt driver is the last thing we should suggest messing with. Besides, the more empire-specific shit that goes in the game, the more assclowns we'll have whining about it.

r3d
2003-06-10, 12:42 PM
Simple solution to the snipers

NC: Shotgun sniper, shoots 5-7 bullets that wont hit anything(e.g. jackhamme)

TR: Chainsaw sniper: Shoots chainsaws, homing 1 hit kill anti air/anti armor/ap/normal/instant/plasmaburn/jammer/mine sweeper/shotgun blast with 99999 bullets/goes through walls/team friendly/BR and CR rank goes down if hit/infinte range/causes game to crash if hit/ steal your account/takes over all hostile facitlies on the continent used/ unlocks closed warpgates/heals teamates/ gives BR and CR to teamates/infinte ammo/causes TR to win for the days stats/one kill counts as 1000.

VS: Beamer with a sniper scope.

EDIT:Added more to TR

�io
2003-06-10, 12:42 PM
1 hit kill on reinforced = :nono:

That would just create to many lamers who take sniping to be l33t fr4x0rz and pwnz j00!

MilitantB0B
2003-06-10, 12:59 PM
IMHO, the bolt driver is one of the only things in the game that is almost perfectly balanced. If it aint broke, don't fix it.

Madcow
2003-06-10, 01:03 PM
I agree that there's absolutely zero reason to go empire specific with the sniper rifle. All of these suggestions do nothing but make sure NC has the best gun. TR shoots tons of bullets, VS shoots an energy beam? Is there any way that the gun can also unfold into a giant billboard with a sign that says "Have your reavers shoot their missiles here" with a giant arrow pointing down at the shooter? That's pretty much what those two suggestions are anyhow.
The bolt driver should remain as it is, I actually just got the cert last night for the first time and had an absolute blast. There's a lot more thinking to it than I'd given it credit for and if you take your time and think it through you can get many kills without revealing your location. I'd hate for that to go away for the sake of being empire specific.

Seer
2003-06-10, 01:33 PM
For the NC, two words: sniper shotgun!

Zarparchior
2003-06-10, 02:55 PM
If this was taken seriously, this is my Ms. Cleo immitation of her telling the future of Planetside...

TR: Chaingun Sniper Rifle (codename: Firestorm)
--- Fires at a very fast rate, is very accurate up until very long range. Needs to be crouched to be very accurate, but would maintain a good amount of accuracy when running around and jumping because we are the TR.

NC: Shotgun Sniper Rifle (codename: Hailstorm)
--- Shoots like a sniper shotgun. Pellets would stay within the CoF (not go outside like the other shotguns) and thus the CoF would be a bit larger than the other SRs. It's accuracy would be better when crouched, and marginally worse when running around. It would mainly be for short - medium longish distances.

VS: Energy Sniper Rifle (codename: Nova)
--- Expels energy orbs that move at Comet MAX speed. Damage would be decent at medium to short range, but would fall off significantly at longer ranges. Would be super accurate if crouched, but would mess the CoF to hell if moving the mouse or character at all. It would also leave a very bright trail behind the orbs so you can see where the person is.

NightWalker XI
2003-06-10, 03:01 PM
If anything that is common pool at the moment gets some empire specific stuff I say it should be aircraft

Zarparchior
2003-06-10, 03:05 PM
I agree. We need some overpowered TR aircraft, semi-balanced NC aircraft, and gimped VS aircraft. :D

I like my VS sniper rifle. It catches the spirit of the Vanu. :p

aiwest420
2003-06-10, 03:10 PM
bolt driver is perfect, no need for empire specific sniper rifles :)

Hellsfire123
2003-06-10, 03:14 PM
By tr sniper, you really mean either the repeater or the cycler right?

By VS you mean the Lancer?

By NC you mean the scattercannon?


Seriously though, TR should have an semi automatic rifle, much like a PSG-1. NC could be a bolt driver that does the same hp damage, but significantly more armor damage. VS could be a 3 shot, slightly more accurate version of the lancer.

1024
2003-06-10, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by MilitantB0B
IMHO, the bolt driver is one of the only things in the game that is almost perfectly balanced. If it aint broke, don't fix it.

exatly waht i was thinking. THe sniper rifles are fine. Lets focus on fixing the broke stuff rather than tinkering with the not-broke stuff.

Seer
2003-06-10, 03:29 PM
All kidding aside, I think the bolt drive is all the 'super long range weapon' anyone would every need. It would have been easy to mess up balancing the sniper rifle, and we shouldn't give them a second chance to screw up since, as others have pointed out, they got it right the first time.

Darksim
2003-06-11, 01:30 AM
FOOLS! the lancer with zoom implant owns,i got my 4 shots off before the boltdriver can kill me with 2 :P!


Lancer needs plasma burn!

oh and i snipe harassers and they send me angry tells!

NeoTassadar
2003-06-11, 01:46 AM
Since VS weapons are usually different from the standards of that class set by the other two empires, how about VS sniper rifle that merely disables the target for a few seconds? Lock weapons on anything for five seconds. Add paralysis on MAXs and extreme slowdown for ground vehicles (engine shutdown for air) for same duration.

TheRegurgitator
2003-06-11, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by Darksim
oh and i snipe harassers and they send me angry tells!
lol

CDaws
2003-06-11, 02:51 AM
I sniped a bit while they had the BR 10 set during beta and I lone wolfed for a while, I loved it. I haven't touched sniping since then untill tonight. I'm not the best sniper by far in any game, I prefer to get up in someones face and blow them away but, tonight was a different story.

I picked up sniping again tonight and I was just into BR 11 not even a scratch on filling up the first block. I got started after finding a great spot on a cliff beside a rock I was taking my time and in a few hours I had a block and a half filled with just snipershots :)

I admit it does take much longer to rack up points sniping but, if you have a great location and move to a different one every 20 min or so and keep hidden it is a rush. The best thing about sniping, it is a great demoralizer to other players and keeps them paranoid so that they aren't as effective as they would like to be.

I know I'm the same way if I'm being shot at not knowing where the shots are comming from and just seeing my allies drop dead next to me with out any enemies near by.

Bring back the glory to psychological warfare.

On the topic, the boltdriver is IMHO the most balanced of all the weapons and does not need to be changed. On the Empire specific sniper rifles, I don't really think there needs to be any but, who knows? Only time will tell.

JakeLogan
2003-06-11, 08:14 AM
Well what I said I should have added that this is what I think they should do IF they ever decide too. But it shouldn't be done till everything is balanced.

1024
2003-06-11, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by NeoTassadar
Since VS weapons are usually different from the standards of that class set by the other two empires, how about VS sniper rifle that merely disables the target for a few seconds? Lock weapons on anything for five seconds. Add paralysis on MAXs and extreme slowdown for ground vehicles (engine shutdown for air) for same duration.

Now engine shutdown for air, NO WAY. Maybe a reduction in speed but defeiently no engine shtodwn. And i can jsut see a whole squad of these guy on top of a hill along wiht another squad owning an antire base.

NeoTassadar
2003-06-11, 01:37 PM
How about just reseting the throttle to zero? They can immediately put it back up, but it will give the effect I'm looking for here.