I made a thing (Terran Propaganda Piece)

noxious · 2012-03-29, 12:13 AM

Edit* It gets auto-resized Click here for full size

noxious · 2012-03-29, 12:15 AM

If people like this idea I will continue producing these. I have some ideas for future posters. I might even be persuaded to do them for the NC and the VS, though I would need to create distinct narratives and visual styles for each of them to really make it work.

Feedback is welcome!

SKYeXile · 2012-03-29, 12:17 AM

lol I was thinking of doing the same the WW2 style posters...with less text though and focus more on the slogan and picture. looks good but.

Skitrel · 2012-03-29, 12:18 AM

This is glorious. A suggestion though, add the image URL link to the top of the first post too, the automatic image resizing on the forum makes it a little hard to read without clicking through and people are LAZY.

I've rehosted it on imgur. I really don't recommend using dropbox for hotlinking on forums or anywhere else, it'll expend the max downloads extremely rapidly and break.

Imgur link: http://i.imgur.com/sgTLY.jpg

EDIT: Also there's a typo on the first line "officies" instead of "offices"

EDIT2: Just noticed the stomping on the NC logo, brilliant.

noxious · 2012-03-29, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Skitrel

EDIT: Also there's a typo on the first line "officies" instead of "offices"

Oops. I ran all the copy through MS Word but it doesn't check all-caps because it interprets them as acronyms (or something), and I missed that one when manually checking the all-caps text. This is why I like using Dropbox for hosting things though; I made a phantom edit

TheDrone · 2012-03-29, 01:49 AM

Having read all the PS fiction I'm not sure I agree with the blatant DDR-style propaganda of the TR. They're actually a lot more humanitarian than the NC (who are the actual bad guys, despite their calls for "freedom").

But then again, there might be a massive difference between old-style TR and Auraxis/infinite war style TR.

Skitrel · 2012-03-29, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by noxious

Oops. I ran all the copy through MS Word but it doesn't check all-caps because it interprets them as acronyms (or something), and I missed that one when manually checking the all-caps text. This is why I like using Dropbox for hosting things though; I made a phantom edit

Yeah, the thing is though things don't stay up on dropbox forever, sites imgur only removes content if it's not viewed once for a full 6 months. Basically meaning most things stick around forever.

Be a shame when someone finds this thread through google in a year and your art has disappeared for all eternity, hence rehosting somewhere better.

Geist · 2012-03-29, 12:22 AM

Looks great. One thing though, the MAX in this picture is already stepping on a Dead NC...

Raymac · 2012-03-29, 01:55 AM

Officially, I wouldn't wipe my ass with this disgusting TR propaganda rag. NC 4 LIFE!!

Unofficially, that is freakin awesome, noxious. Well done, sir. Well done.

Mechzz · 2012-03-29, 02:02 AM

This looks great. It's pretty much advertisement-quality. Maybe PS2 website could host this sort of fan-made advertising?

Atheosim · 2012-03-29, 02:10 AM

I don't like the "'Freedom?' Not on our watch!" bit because it makes them sound like some sort of Pol Pot type deal.

Mechzz · 2012-03-29, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Atheosim

I don't like the "'Freedom?' Not on our watch!" bit because it makes them sound like some sort of Pol Pot type deal.

Funny, that's how I always see the TR - angry little red and black peeps who are just really nasty. That's not based on anything personal about players who play TR, it's just what their unifom makes me think of?

"Freedom is Slavery" seems to fit them perfectly.

Interesting how different people envisage the empires in their own unique way!

Atheosim · 2012-03-29, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by Mechzz

Funny, that's how I always see the TR - angry little red and black peeps who are just really nasty. That's not based on anything personal about players who play TR, it's just what their unifom makes me think of?

"Freedom is Slavery" seems to fit them perfectly.

Interesting how different people envisage the empires in their own unique way!

Yeah, I've always seen them as the people who actually think things through and act for the good of all of the people, whereas the NC are solely seeking power and wealth, and the VS are endangering the entire human race by fucking with shit they don't know about.

TheDrone · 2012-03-29, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Atheosim

Yeah, I've always seen them as the people who actually think things through and act for the good of all of the people, whereas the NC are solely seeking power and wealth, and the VS are endangering the entire human race by fucking with shit they don't know about.

Quite an apt analysis of all sides.

Apparently not a lot of people know the background of the TR.

The TR were the guys who effectively saved mankind and lead it to prosperity. The TR democracy (because they really are) reacted to the alien threat rationally. They did the same with internal threats. Which is quite surprising considering mankind had just emerged from a more than 70-year long gruesome war. One would expect a dictatorship, but the TR isn’t. Sure, they might suffer from a certain form of stagnation and perhaps decade and some corruption. But their track record has proven that these are tolerable mistakes, if one considers they’re still able to act rationally and make tough decisions when needed.
Then you’ve got the insane libertarian NC. Glorified corporate lapdogs who happen to mistake freedom with anarchy. When you shout “freedom” and are willing to demand the ultimate sacrifice of freedom from others (by killing them) through terrorism it would seem you have a few wires crossed.
The VS are even bigger crackpots than the NC. Glorifying a means (technology) with no real purpose, save perhaps a kind of sad, no pathetic, to emulate their deities, which happen to be some unknowable aliens. To the petty mind advanced science is indistinguishable from magic and it’s clear that the VS fashion themselves wizards through their advanced weaponry.
Although it should be quite obvious that the VS have anything but a highly evolved morality as they join in the war just as easily as the other “primitive” factions.

A choice for the TR is a rational one.

Skitrel · 2012-03-29, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by TheDrone

Quite an apt analysis of all sides.

Apparently not a lot of people know the background of the TR.

The TR were the guys who effectively saved mankind and lead it to prosperity. The TR democracy (because they really are) reacted to the alien threat rationally. They did the same with internal threats. Which is quite surprising considering mankind had just emerged from a more than 70-year long gruesome war. One would expect a dictatorship, but the TR isn’t. Sure, they might suffer from a certain form of stagnation and perhaps decade and some corruption. But their track record has proven that these are tolerable mistakes, if one considers they’re still able to act rationally and make tough decisions when needed.
Then you’ve got the insane libertarian NC. Glorified corporate lapdogs who happen to mistake freedom with anarchy. When you shout “freedom” and are willing to demand the ultimate sacrifice of freedom from others (by killing them) through terrorism it would seem you have a few wires crossed.

Woah hold on a second, this misses the point and oversimplifies the situation.. The Terran Republic FORCE everyone to be part of the Terran Republic, nobody is allowed to create anything else even if they were to do so peacefully. While they may remain an internally utopian democratic regime their attitude towards and other kind of regime even being allowed to exist is very clearly that of oppressiveness.

Everyone is allowed to exist but only as long as they conform to the laws and rules of the Terran Republic, everywhere. If anyone does not, they must be destroyed.

The NC want something different to the Terran Republic, but they're not allowed it, their only option is therefore fighting against them and ultimately seeking to destroy them.

You're spot on with the VS though.

The Terran Republic is best compared to the Roman Empire, ignoring the supreme emperor part to make them fit though. Inwardly it's a democratic society that seeks to be somewhat utopian, outwardly though they sought to conquer and assimilate absolutely everyone into their empire. The Terran Republic ended war through achieving just this, uniting absolutely everything under one banner and one law. I'm sure you can understand how some people might disagree with that though, it's definitely oppressive. While it does indeed create peace, it does it through power and force, that's wrong. It's anti multiculturalism at it's best, could even be viewed as a form of facism, accept our law and culture or be destroyed.

Equality for all...

As for their image, they're the product of TRay, who worked on Fallout 1 and 2, of note - he created the look the Enclave has. They're quite clearly inspired by the look The Enclave had and understanding this helps understand the oppressive through force nature of the Terran Republic, they share a huge amount of look and similar oppressive ideals with The Enclave of fallout, and as such it's pretty clear they're not the good guys, at least from typical societal viewpoint of the year 2012.