News: New Blog via Smed talks ESports, Outfit Bases and More. (Overall Discussion)

Razicator · 2012-08-11, 08:27 AM

Also a bit more info on PvE (near the end of the link, #5)

I mean we did have the pro-gamer CS guy join the SOE team for balance, but it was still up in the air I believe the extent to which PS2 will be an eSport. Well, check this out. Almost last sentence, #7.

http://john-smedley.livejournal.com/2412.html

What do you guys think? Good? Bad? What do you hope it'll be?

I'm thinking they're thinking more battle-islands-esque stuff, that's what Higby worked on in PS1. Isolated continents for more outfit or squad-based play.

Of course, all eSports games must have a good spectator camera, so I'm hoping for good UI stuff to come along with this. Things like being able to disable your HUD, or to have a noclip mode to fly into the air to record stuff ONLY in these theoretical battle-islands for neutral players.

Slide Surveyor · 2012-08-11, 09:50 AM

This won't be good.

Boone · 2012-08-11, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Slide Surveyor

This won't be good.

Did you even read it? RTS elements in my opinion would be amazing.

Anyway, before people cry in the future and claim promises weren't kept - I want to be crystal clear and say that these are NOT promises these are ideas

Emperor Newt · 2012-08-11, 10:06 AM

"Mac version (soon after launch)"

Sounds promissing. If so getting PS2 to run under Wine should be much easier

eSports is always a very tough nut to crack. I don't think it is impossible in PS2 or that it would make the game bad/worse. But it has to be taken very carefully. And I think SOE is very aware of that.
eSports is a huge money sink and rewards are not guaranteed.

Envenom · 2012-08-11, 10:10 AM

I'm down. I think it would be awesome.

LancerNC · 2012-08-11, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Envenom

I'm down. I think it would be awesome.

me too!

ringring · 2012-08-11, 10:18 AM

Nothing there excited me. I have to be honest.

well, maybe more vehicles.

I wish he'd said more continents (apart from the empty ones for outfit bases).

PS2 needs more continents first and foremost .. the rest is meh.

Goku · 2012-08-11, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Razicator

tuff, that's what Higby worked on in PS1. Isolated continents for more outfit or squad-based play.
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That sounds like a great option for how to deal with this segment of game play.

Timealude · 2012-08-11, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Boone

Did you even read it? RTS elements in my opinion would be amazing.

Anyway, before people cry in the future and claim promises weren't kept - I want to be crystal clear and say that these are NOT promises these are ideas

This.

Pyreal · 2012-08-11, 10:40 AM

1) Player Owned bases - we plan on releasing continents that are empty or partially empty where players can build their own bases. These are open world bases so others will be able to attack them. We're also planning on having these continents heavily resource based with new resource types that will be very rare..and lots of cool new stuff that can be built out of these new resources.

+

2) Harvestable resources - imagine SC II style resource harvesting with physical vehicles doing the mining or the harvesting.

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4) Lots more vehicles and weapons - just what it sounds like. Many of these will take very rare resources to make.

If you need to harvest them, can your harvester be attacked and looted?

Will harvesters need protection? Do we now have mining in PS2?

Originally Posted by ringring

Nothing there excited me. I have to be honest.

well, maybe more vehicles.

I wish he'd said more continents (apart from the empty ones for outfit bases).

PS2 needs more continents first and foremost .. the rest is meh.

Did you even read it?

"We also don't want to charge for things like new continents or new planets (in the future)."

You haven't even played retail and you are already bored with the content?

Masterr · 2012-08-11, 10:49 AM

I hope the priorities are

1. weather

2. mac version

3. more vehicles

4. E sports support

5. player owned bases

6. water between continents (down the list bc of difficulty)

7. NPC enemies (invasions)

everything else is meh. (harvestable resources, npc armies)

Ivam Akorahil · 2012-08-11, 11:02 AM

1) Player Owned bases - we plan on releasing continents that are empty or partially empty where players can build their own bases. These are open world bases so others will be able to attack them. We're also planning on having these continents heavily resource based with new resource types that will be very rare..and lots of cool new stuff that can be built out of these new resources.

LOVE IT

2) Harvestable resources - imagine SC II style resource harvesting with physical vehicles doing the mining or the harvesting.

LOVE IT

3) Water between continents - seamlessly - this is really hard tech, but our goal is to make the whole planet seamless and allow water based vehicles.

LOVE IT

4) Lots more vehicles and weapons - just what it sounds like. Many of these will take very rare resources to make.

LOVE IT

5) NPC enemies - I don't want to call this PVE. That's not exactly what we have in mind. More like a global invasion that goes after everybody. This isn't a bunch of quest givers saying "go kill 10 rats" - this is bad ass aliens that want to gut you.

:O speculation is over thats what he means!

6) NPC armies - imagine as the commander of a base sending an NPC army towards another base MOBA style except it's in the middle of the Planetside 2. This isn't another game mode. It's all part of the same game.

LOVE IT

7) Esports support - we plan on doing this pretty soon after launch. We plan on making this a big big thing and putting a lot of our resources behind it.

BRING IT ON

8) Weather

hooray!

Stardouser · 2012-08-11, 11:07 AM

Sounds good to me. The only thing I want to know is, this NPC invasion that he wants to do. I DO like the idea, but is it going to be a weekly thing, or a daily thing? Daily would interrupt killing the other scum empires. Weekly or monthly however would be a nice break from the grind.

Graywolves · 2012-08-11, 11:11 AM

I'm curious about them seamlessly connecting continents on a world with oceans.

I don't care much for the PvE elements. He might not want to call it that but that's what it is, even if integrated with the rest of the PvP world. Absolutely don't want waves of AI attacking like in a MOBA. An every man for themselves invasion type deal could be acceptable on rare occasions but going beyond that would just be taking novelty/gimick too far.

ringring · 2012-08-11, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Pyreal

Did you even read it?

"We also don't want to charge for things like new continents or new planets (in the future)."

You haven't even played retail and you are already bored with the content?

Yes, I read it ....

NPC invasions .. like a Rift? but enough of the digs....

the major thing missing from PS2 is the meta game, especially at the world or inter-continental level. Once it's there the game will be interesting in the long term .. without it, it's just a shooter!

In order for there to be a inter-continental strategy the devs need to resurrect some ps1 concepts such as sanctuaries and links between continents and capturable continents.

At present each continent is uncapturable and exist in isolation from the others.

However, in order for that to happen several additional continents are necessary.

Continents are #1 and in my view until there is a 'grand metagame' having planetside in the game title is a bit of a conceit.