The Riddle of Command

[Airlift]

What would you do in these three scenarios:

1. You're assaulting a base under a commander you've worked with a few times before. He issues a command that in your estimation improves your squad's chances of winning but will surely result in your death. There are no AMSes supporting the attack and no advanced medics around to revive you, so if you comply you are out of the fight but you may come out the hero.

2. You're in the same situation as above, but you estimate that the order you're given will result in your death and nothing else.

3. Same situation, but now you are the commander. You figure that one sacrifice charge will push your side over the edge to victory. The problem is that when you issue the order, the soldier refuses to comply.

[edited for more gooder grammar and spleeling]

[protocol_alpha]

1 i dont know
2 i dont know
3 Shoot him myself ...

[Civilian]

1. You're assaulting a base under a commander you've worked with a few times before. He issues you a command that in your estimate improves your squad's chances of winning but will surely result in your death. There are no AMSes supporting the attack and no advanced medics around to revive you, so if you comply you are out of the fight but you may come out the hero.

Imo, this is pretty simple. If it results in your squad(and when I say your squad, I mean your "clan" or "outfit") taking a base, especially when you are given an order, you should follow it. If you are joined up with a mix squad, I might think twice about following such an order. But, I would likely still follow it.

2. You're in the same situation as above, but you estimate that the order your given will result in your death and nothing else.

In this case, once again, I would always follow the orders of my outfit commander. If I'm in a mix squad, I would be unlikely to follow that command.

3. Same situation, but now you are the commander. You figure that one sacrifice charge will push your side over the edge to victory. The problem is that when you issue the order, the soldier refuses to comply.

I would either:

A: Give the order to another soldier, willing to make this sacrifice.

or

B: Assuming there is another commander in squad, you always have the option to sacrifice yourself. And a good leader leads the way.

And if this soldier were in my "outfit" there would be severe reprecussions for ignoring an order. If he is just someone that joined up with my squad, I don't think there is alot you can do.

[SmokeJumper]

<personal opinion only>

1) Obey my commander.

2) Obey my commander. I signed on for the duty. It's my fault if I picked a bad leader. I'll quit after the battle is complete or when there's a lull that allows him to look for replacements.

3) Tell the person to charge and that it's critical. If he disobeys again, eject him from my squad and start looking for replacements.

See? I belong on the TR.

[SleightOfHand]

No, the TR mercilessly guns them down. The NC doesn't care if they obey or not because they want absolute freedom.
The VS designs a device based off of ancient Vanu technology to see if they should kill him, kick him, or leave him.

[txMaddog]

Hmmm...interesting questions. I assume I've had time to think about the situation and it's not one of those middle of a firefight snap decisons.

1. I do it. I don't mind taking one for the Team (or whatever).

2. I do it. Then ask the person WTF was that supposed to accomplish??

3. Before battle I appoint a co-leader and make sure everyone knows the chain of command. I'd do what's needed for the Team and rely on my co-leader to handle the situation til I got back on site.

[grunkfest]

1. Conform and obey.

2. Conform and obey.

3. Order all other members of the squad to shoot the disobedient. If the damage is shared out between the whole squad, grief points per soldier shouldn't be too much. Re-issue order to the squad member who fired on the dissident last.

I too will play TR. Conform or die - it's pretty simple really.

[Sputty]

For `1 and 2 I'd follow and then if 3 I'd ask him again, kill him then kick him out of the squad..there...problem solved. I'd make sure I'd have someone I know well with me to make sure people understand the "chain of command" unless he was in my outfit or whatever then I'd just go on my own if tehy didn't do it and hope someone else follows me.

[Zatrais]

1.) I'd follow the order

2.) Yup, if i join a squad and the commander sends me off to die i'll do it.. the commander will learn from having a sqaudmemeber die needlessly

3.) I'd shoot him myself for treason against the republic and cowardism hehe.

[Sputty]

Originally posted by grunkfest

3. Order all other members of the squad to shoot the disobedient. If the damage is shared out between the whole squad, grief points per soldier shouldn't be too much. Re-issue order to the squad member who fired on the dissident last.
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There are no grief points in squads.
Edit: Noticed a grammar error and I can't have those!!!

[EineBeBoP]

Originally posted by grunkfest

....3. Order all other members of the squad to shoot the disobedient. If the damage is shared out between the whole squad, grief points per soldier shouldn't be too much. Re-issue order to the squad member who fired on the dissident last.

I too will play TR. Conform or die - it's pretty simple really.

I too will play TR. Confirm or Die- It's pretty simple really.


Only a damn TR soldier would do such a thing. No second chance? no warning?? (i unerestand if this in a firefight) The TR are brutal, cold, heartless animals. thats why i joined the NC

1. Follow orders
2. With my outfit (clan squad etc.) I follow w/o question take 1 for the team

3. sacrafice myself, make sure i have a safe 2nd in command






***** no offense to any individuals, I just dont think that what the TR belives in is moraly correct*****

[Squeeky]

1. You're assaulting a base under a commander you've worked with a few times before. He issues a command that in your estimation improves your squad's chances of winning but will surely result in your death. There are no AMSes supporting the attack and no advanced medics around to revive you, so if you comply you are out of the fight but you may come out the hero.

Thats the whole idea right? I wouldnt be selfish, and i would in any case, any way shape or form, i would ALWAYS follow orders.

2. You're in the same situation as above, but you estimate that the order you're given will result in your death and nothing else.

I would follow orders

3. Same situation, but now you are the commander. You figure that one sacrifice charge will push your side over the edge to victory. The problem is that when you issue the order, the soldier refuses to comply.

I would kick him from my squad, making sure not to work with him again.

[Airlift]

Ok, here's my followup question:

You are putting a squad together and have one open spot remaining. Two players that you have worked with before are interested. One is as uberleet a player as you have seen, with unmatched reflexes and the aim of a bot. Unfortunately, he knows how good he is and as a result has a problem following orders. Guy number two is not really a good twitch player and doesn't have good aim either, but he is all about the team and will follow even suicidal orders without hesitation or question.

Who do you put in?

[Sputty]

You forgot to kill him first, Squeeky. And I'd probably pick the the worse, but more dependable soldier. I don't want any asses going around and jsut getting in the way of a planned attack.

[EineBeBoP]

I kick out Squeeky and invite both

There! problem solved!