The denied reproductive rights of males.

[MrVicchio]

A woman has the right to abort a child she does not want, but a man is stuck paying the bill for a child he does not want.

I.E. Consider the following real life scenarios.

Bill and Linda engage in consensual intercourse that results in a pregnancy. There are only a few real outcomes.

They both wish to have the child, and find a way to make this happen either through living together, marriage or another situation that works for both.

Linda wants the child Bill does not. Linda gives birth, Bill spends 18-24 years paying child support for a child he never wanted.

Bill Wants the child, Linda does not. Linda aborts. Bill loses a child

Linda does not want the child but gives the child up to Bill. Linda pays Child support (possible).

Linda cannot bring herself to abort, but neither want the child, it is given away for adoption.

In all of the above situations, after the intercourse, the ball is in HER court as to what happens for both of them, and the unborn.

Men should have the right to "abort" their rights and responsibilities as fathers. After all, fairs fair, and while it's not "their body" it is a major part of their reproductive rights.



I expect every pro-abortion person should support equality under the law (see the 14th Amendment for this.) and back giving fathers the right to abort as well.

[Graywolves]

The law sees it as "her body her decision" kind of thing.

But it's a very interesting thing to discuss. The man should be able to do something instead of being expected to just go with whatever the woman wants.

[Krowe]

Thats generally how it goes in a relationship where the chick is the boyfriend.

[Crator]

Chick is boyfriend = Chick brings home bacon?

[Krowe]

Originally Posted by Crator

Chick is boyfriend = Chick brings home bacon?

When the woman in the relationship loves bacon more than the man, thats a gene pool that does not need to be reproducing.

[Baneblade]

I can understand both sides of this coin. No legislative body would ever rule that a man can make a decision that directly impacts the health and welfare of a woman in regards to childbirth. And while it certainly leaves the man out on the proverbial street, it isn't something that can really change.

The bottom line: The only time a man has the rights to a child he helped create is if he was married to the mother and she doesn't divorce him, but he divorces her. And can prove that he is going to be a better father and mother 24/7/365 with a full time job than she will be 2 hours a day while working at Wal-Mart.

[Graywolves]

Originally Posted by Sobekeus

I can understand both sides of this coin. No legislative body would ever rule that a man can make a decision that directly impacts the health and welfare of a woman in regards to childbirth. And while it certainly leaves the man out on the proverbial street, it isn't something that can really change.

The bottom line: The only time a man has the rights to a child he helped create is if he was married to the mother and she doesn't divorce him, but he divorces her. And can prove that he is going to be a better father and mother 24/7/365 with a full time job than she will be 2 hours a day while working at Wal-Mart.

Women are scary.

[Baneblade]

They are the true masters of the universe after all. Why else would men be so afraid of them as to cover them up with black tents.

[Vecha]

Eh....I'm not "for" or "against" abortion.

I'm a man.


It isn't my body....that's how I look at it.

Though...if they are married...then perhaps there should be some law...or something to protect the rights of the husband who wants the child?

I dunno...

And a bit off-topic,

...really wish politicians would focus on economy, jobs, war, etc and stop talking about Abortion, religion, and everything else...

[Accuser]

Originally Posted by Vecha

...really wish politicians would focus on economy, jobs, war, etc and stop talking about Abortion, religion, and everything else...

Democrats and Republicans work for the same corporate interest groups when it comes to the economy, jobs, wars, etc. If they didn't distract you with abortion and religion you'd realize that and vote for Ron Paul.

[Hamma]

Yea social issues have no place in politics.

[Vecha]

Originally Posted by Accuser

Democrats and Republicans work for the same corporate interest groups when it comes to the economy, jobs, wars, etc. If they didn't distract you with abortion and religion you'd realize that and vote for Ron Paul.

We all have "interests."

Even Ron Paul.

[Traak]

There's always the easy route. Don't have the intercourse.

And, it isn't part of her body, either, it has its own DNA, blood type, and cognitive capabilities. This is known as a "person".

Let the person who you were irresponsible enough to start grow to an age where it can make its own choices, then it can decide if it wants to live.

[Vecha]

Originally Posted by Traak

There's always the easy route. Don't have the intercourse.

And, it isn't part of her body, either, it has its own DNA, blood type, and cognitive capabilities. This is known as a "person".

Let the person who you were irresponsible enough to start grow to an age where it can make its own choices, then it can decide if it wants to live.

So you are for euthanasia?

I've never met anyone pro-life who is also for self-assisted suicide.

Not that I think there is anything wrong with your train of thought.

[Traak]

Originally Posted by Vecha

So you are for euthanasia?

I've never met anyone pro-life who is also for self-assisted suicide.

Not that I think there is anything wrong with your train of thought.

I think you mean "doctor assisted" suicide. No, if you wanna kill yourself, then it isn't a good thing to drag someone else into it, if only for the reason that they may have regrets later.

And, yes, I am a Christian, and don't believe in murder, even self-murder, on moral grounds, as in, it is something we are commanded not to do. Warfare, law enforcement and self-defense, however, are not murder.