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Old 2012-06-16, 08:59 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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SoE should invite hackers to break the game


I really think they should do this at some point in the closed beta. Since this is a F2P game, there will be a LOT of people trying it out, and a lot of them will probably create grief-accounts aswell. I think it would be a good move from SoE to pay some hackers to find at least the easiest exploits before launch, so that they can get sorted out and be better prepared.

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Old 2012-06-16, 09:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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One should not ever Encourage hackers, but deal with them when found. Hackers are not in it to help a company, there in it for the Lulz, or to ruin a game.
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Old 2012-06-16, 09:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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One should not ever Encourage hackers, but deal with them when found. Hackers are not in it to help a company, there in it for the Lulz, or to ruin a game.
I think you miss the point. I'm not saying SoE should encourage players to hack, but rather get in contact with people who have experience with hacking, and work with them to find flaws in their system.
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Old 2012-06-16, 09:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Hire hackers, never invite them.
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Old 2012-06-16, 09:03 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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I have a Network Security Degree myself and this is pretty common within the corporate world... SoE should look at this

you hire a white hat hacker to come in and test your system to find the exploits so you can fix them before they get attacked..... it easier to prevent something then to repair the damage.
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Old 2012-06-16, 09:04 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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No decent hacker would sacrifice his profit. Those who did, though, are not in lines of the current source code.
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Old 2012-06-16, 09:06 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Have to agree with this. I even suggested that SOE hire white hats in the "Oh noes, First Platoon" thread the other day.

They (SOE) should try hard to break their own game. I know I would if it was my game and I was serious about trying to defend it.
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Old 2012-06-16, 09:06 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Originally Posted by Shigins View Post
I have a Network Security Degree myself and this is pretty common within the corporate world... SoE should look at this

you hire a white hat hacker to come in and test your system to find the exploits so you can fix them before they get attacked..... it easier to prevent something then to repair the damage.
Exactly and after SOE accounts were hacked I'd be astonished if they didn't do just this.

Actually actually, thinking about this again there is PCI DSS standard, I wonder if the banks 'fined' SOE? (Slightly off topic.)
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Old 2012-06-16, 09:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Originally Posted by Grapes View Post
I think you miss the point. I'm not saying SoE should encourage players to hack, but rather get in contact with people who have experience with hacking, and work with them to find flaws in their system.
People who "hack" for companies are called devs, they do that now, a hacker finds something a dev over looked, Again NEVER Encourage hackers, do not put a sign up saying "Hey, do you enjoy breaking games! Have a history of it!? ruin the game for others! Why not come help us in are game!"

Most hackers will keep a few secrets to exploit for profit, As i said, Deal with hackers as they are found move on and show the community you would deal with them correctly and not hand them an invitation to do so.

Edit: And if you mean Network Security they have those, that there job BUT Network Security =/= Hacker, you HIRE a Network Security you do not invite a hacker.

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Old 2012-06-16, 09:12 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Originally Posted by Vetto View Post
People who "hack" for companies are called devs, they do that now, a hacker finds something a dev over looked, Again NEVER Encourage hackers, do not put a sign up saying "Hey, do you enjoy breaking games! Have a history of it!? ruin the game for others! Why not come help us in are game!"

Most hackers will keep a few secrets to exploit for profit, As i said, Deal with hackers as they are found move on and show the community you would deal with them correctly and not hand them an invitation to do so.
Stop being ignorant, and re-read what you just wrote.

"Hackers find what devs overlooked" exactly the point, Mr.Intelligence
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Old 2012-06-16, 09:17 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Originally Posted by Grapes View Post
Stop being ignorant, and re-read what you just wrote.

"Hackers find what devs overlooked" exactly the point, Mr.Intelligence
This coming from the idiot who doesn't get the point of what I am saying. They have people for them that think like hackers to try and find exploits.

A REAL Hacker as in a REAL not a hired on tech help IS NOT THERE TO HELP! They are there to make a profit, find an exploit other over looked and to abuse the living shit out of it threw external means, They have 0 desire to help SoE cause it far more Fun/Profitable to just sell or use the exploit.

It be like giving all of Anonymous a invite to Ps2 Does that seem like a good idea to you?
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Old 2012-06-16, 09:20 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Originally Posted by Vetto View Post
This coming from the idiot who doesn't get the point of what I am saying. They have people for them that think like hackers to try and find exploits.

A REAL Hacker as in a REAL not a hired on tech help IS NOT THERE TO HELP! They are there to make a profit, find an exploit other over looked and to abuse the living shit out of it threw external means, They have 0 desire to help SoE cause it far more Fun/Profitable to just sell or use the exploit.

It be like giving all of Anonymous a invite to Ps2 Does that seem like a good idea to you?
You're maybe being a littlle overly literal in your interpretation Vetto. We understand that "real" hackers don't want to help SOE. But there are "good guys" out there with hacking skills who can and do want to help out, maybe for a fee. SOE need to engage with that group.

Because Anonymous will come calling, asked or not.
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Old 2012-06-16, 09:21 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Originally Posted by Vetto View Post
One should not ever Encourage hackers, but deal with them when found. Hackers are not in it to help a company, there in it for the Lulz, or to ruin a game.
white hats.
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Old 2012-06-16, 09:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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I am sure beta will have many hacking attempts.
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Old 2012-06-16, 09:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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This is something games devs seem to skip on. Your supposed to test software in this way :/
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