The New Grief System

[Dairian]

I noticed that there wasn't a grief system in the demo. Probably because this was for testing purposes. But I also have not seen it in any of the other videos as well. I am sure without a grief system it will be hectic, when someone gets mad and continues hunt you down over and over.. This happened in PS1 and there was a system. It would get out of control if there was nothing in place to stop it.

With a shorter TTK it seems that TK'ing will happen more often. So should the PS1 Grief system be implemented for should it change?

Post your ideas how you think the new Grief system should work.

[GTGD]

- Grief "point" system like PS1
- Once you get to a new grief level, you take a hit to your personal resources
- Spammy weapons are disabled
- Weapon lock and vehicle speed reduction after some amount
- Definitely a big flashing grief signal
- Account flag

[Bags]

The ysad grief is coming back with tweaks

[Knightwyvern]

As Higby said in the TB dual commentary, the fact that PS2 is a F2P game makes a grief system a bit useless. There solution to this seems to be having server admins available at all times.

[AvacadoEight]

Originally Posted by elfailo

I am definitely capable of making new accounts to continue tk'ing people.

Theeen maybe we dont want you here?

[kaffis]

Originally Posted by Bags

The ysad grief is coming back with tweaks

"YSAD"? You Shot A Dude?

[Bags]

They said.

Shut up, my laptop's keyboard barely works.

[Knightwyvern]

Originally Posted by Bags

They said.

Shut up, my laptop's keyboard barely works.

For a while there I thought you were talking about Youth Suicide And Depression. :P

[Dairian]

Originally Posted by Knightwyvern

As Higby said in the TB dual commentary, the fact that PS2 is a F2P game makes a grief system a bit useless. There solution to this seems to be having server admins available at all times.

Without a grief system people will just shoot through there own team to try and get the kill.

Originally Posted by GTGD

- Grief "point" system like PS1
- Once you get to a new grief level, you take a hit to your personal resources
- Spammy weapons are disabled
- Weapon lock and vehicle speed reduction after some amount
- Definitely a big flashing grief signal
- Account flag

I think this would be viable. And if someone does make a 2nd or 3rd account At least they will be locked out of there account and will have to progress another character through the cert system. The admin would still be needed to ban anyone who continues to TK. The Grief system would keep the people who play one account and care about progression to watch there fire.

[Tapman]

Higby talked a while back about potentially having an option to forgive if you were killed by friendly fire. I think they are also going to have fairly sophisticated monitoring systems considering the potential for abuse and trolling.

I would like to to see them identyfing if a particular person is killing friendlies on a continued basis or a particular friendly repeatedly without being forgiven, I would hope that they could use a gm to investigate and if identified as a threat be automatically marked with a red spot to all those within a decent range as a teamkiller. Killing a marked teamkiller should count as a justified kill in their stats, not a team kill. Repeat offenders should be suspended from the game, character banned if necessary and hopefully with a reasonable appeals process in case of trolls.

I'm pretty certain that no final decision has been made about the grief system because you can't know what it's going to be like once the populations go up.

[Greeniegriz]

Originally Posted by Bags

They said.

Shut up, my laptop's keyboard barely works.

Lol, i ended up googling "YSAD" and "planetside".

GTGD's idea would work but as Knight said, how can you make sure it works in a F2P game where someone can just make a new account?

Cheers,

GG

[QuantumMechanic]

I suppose there's a possibility that there won't be a grief system because there won't be any team damage enabled...

[QuantumMechanic]

Originally Posted by QuantumMechanic

I suppose there's a possibility that there won't be a grief system because there won't be any team damage enabled...

Although I doubt that because we see the team damage in-game. We just don't see the greif system (yet).

[GreatMazinkaise]

You need the ability to TK gen killers (or the new equivalent)...

[raykor]

How about a grief system that takes away experience and resources?