Prone and lean

[Canaris]

I do like lean in my FPS's ever since F.E.A.R. but for a mmofps like PS2 is it needs... meh I don't think so though I wouldn't be worried over it showing up unlike the other choice

as for prone never add to PS2 you hear me NEVER!!!!

[Gonefshn]

No prone. Just no.

But lean is always cool, not totally necessary but it's cool.

It gives you the ability to use cover the same way on the sides of objects as you can the top. Really adds a cool immersive feeling to games and it's not like you can't shoot someone when they lean out. Who cares if it "helps campers" ?? You can do the same thing. Throw a grenade his way, flank, wait for him to pop his head out. Seriously.

In a game where shooting is the primary mechanic cover should be a HUGE part of gameplay.

[erunion]

The prone hate is interesting.

Its probably not needed, considering how PS1 worked without.

But the idea that prone is facilitates "campers" is just silly. If anything has recently abused the idea of prone its MW where you can instantly prone during a fight, shooting all the while. But that has nothing to do with camping and everything to do with running and gunning.

Edit:The anti-prone arguments are so lame its making me want to see how prone would play out in PS2 beta.

[Sifer2]

Both of those mechanics are not necessarily camping mechanics. Both can be used to aid you in attacking. Since Prone generally means you can crawl. And crawling behind low cover is a good way to advance on a position. Leaning around a corner for a quick peek can also be a safer way of advancing. If you have ever played a real tactical shooter like Americas Army, Red Orchestra, Arma, and so forth you know this.

Anyway we discussed it for well over a year. I was always more of a wait an see type of view point. To me whether it should be in was mostly based on how accurate guns were this time around. And honestly the guns look really accurate an the health bars really low as of the E3 footage. So I am now of the opinion these features actually fit the game design. Since lets face it so much of this game is a rip off of Battlefield right now.

[Vancha]

My experience of lean is primarily from SoF2. Short of getting stuck moving from cover to cover, fights were mainly two people leaning out from opposite ends of a hallway. It's not campier, it's just different. It's a similar dynamic to crouch actually, in that you can enter and leave leaning/crouching instantly.

Prone on the other hand, is a commitment to being less mobile. As with the other thread, we have no way of knowing whether prone would be beneficial to Planetside's gameplay until we play it.

Edit:
Yes to Prone - 29.23%
No to Prone - 70.76%

Yes to Lean - 43.07%
No to Lean - 56.92%

[Crator]

Originally Posted by Gogita

These subjects already have topics, search them. Easy answer.

Not so easy when they close Poll threads. Newcomers cannot contribute to the poll/discussion when that happens. Side-effect: New Polls/Threads will emerge so those who didn't get to participate before can.... Simple fix, don't close hot topic threads.

Crap, I wanna re-vote, I clicked Lean Only but I wouldn't mind having Lean and Prone...

[Dairian]

Fail Pole. They both do not need to implemented into PS2.

[maradine]

Originally Posted by Dairian

Fail Pole. They both do not need to implemented into PS2.

Wouldn't that be the "No, tactical mechanics will slow down the game" option?

[Toppopia]

Originally Posted by Dairian

Fail Pole. They both do not need to implemented into PS2.

And could you explain why they shouldn't be added so we can read your comment and see if it is valid. Thank you.

[Otleaz]

I had a good laugh at all of the people chastising camping.

Lets remove Engineer turrets, base turrets, and the entirety of base defense while we are at it. They all encourage camping and slow gameplay, booo!

Who cares if gameplay slows down? You spend 5 minutes getting to a base, you should be able to utilize some mechanics to stay alive instead of running around like the headless chickens in MW and BF3.

[basti]

http://www.planetside-universe.com/s...ad.php?t=41865

This is the thread you are looking for. And it went downhill from page 1 onwards.

We are not having that again already. Sorry that you couldnt contribute to the old Discussion, but first you should read those 66 pages and then figure out if you can actually say something nobody else said already. Trust me, you wont find any point for or against prone or lean thats new.

Once your actually ready for a thread, feel free to open a new one. But make sure you get the poll correct, because right now "No, to Prone" and "Yes, to Lean" is exactly the same.