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View Poll Results: Do you want Prone in PS2?
Yes 152 31.21%
No 312 64.07%
Other (Explain) 23 4.72%
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Click here to go to the next VIP post in this thread.   Old 2012-06-10, 07:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #856
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Re: Planetside 2 Needs Prone


Originally Posted by DayOne View Post
So why aren't I allowed to cinematically approach a ridge on my belly with a sniper rifle?
hmm?

Hmmm?

HMMMM!?
...because it's much better to fly over that ridge in a Galaxy and cinematically hot drop on said ridge?
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Old 2012-06-10, 07:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #857
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Re: Planetside 2 Needs Prone


Originally Posted by DayOne View Post
So why aren't I allowed to cinematically approach a ridge on my belly with a sniper rifle?
hmm?

Hmmm?

HMMMM!?
Because you can just as easily crouch up. If laying down on a ridge is that "cinematic" for you you're doing it wrong.
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Old 2012-06-10, 07:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #858
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Re: Planetside 2 Needs Prone


Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
The biggest reason not to have prone from a design perspective is risk vs reward. Prone is a risky change that could have significant impact to the game. The reward for adding it is not great. It isn't a differentiator, isn't a killer feature. So it's a big gamble and a big cost to invest the resources into making it and your payout if you win is low. It's a simple business decision. They'd have more clear benefit from investing resources in effort in other things with less risk to the product.
You know, all of that is fine and dandy, BUT it doesn't change the fact that if they wanna try out prone in beta, then they will.

This whole clusterfuck of "PRON WORX CUZ IT WORXED IN SOLITAIRE!" "NO IT DOESDENT CUZ PEPULZ US IT TO CAMP IN MINESWEEPER!" the last, like what 5-10 pages is just completely unnecessary.

Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
Lol dude do you have a brain? Do you have the ability to use logic? If so you should be able to understand that it IS possible to understand that prone will not work in a game like this.

Tell me, what does prone add to benefit gameplay? Keep in mind, this isn't your average twitch shooter/campfest.

I can tell you right now that there is more reason to not add prone than to add prone.
Yeah, good luck trying to convince me with your infailable reasons when I don't really give a shit about if prone is added or not.

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Old 2012-06-10, 07:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #859
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Re: Planetside 2 Needs Prone


Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
Because you can just as easily crouch up. If laying down on a ridge is that "cinematic" for you you're doing it wrong.
I sigh at you!

*sigh*

Originally Posted by Malorn View Post
...because it's much better to fly over that ridge in a Galaxy and cinematically hot drop on said ridge?
He gets it ^

(if you can't tell I'm not being serious by this point then maybe this will help)

:r ofl:
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Old 2012-06-10, 07:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #860
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Re: Planetside 2 Needs Prone


Originally Posted by captainkapautz View Post
You know, all of that is fine and dandy, BUT it doesn't change the fact that if they wanna try out prone in beta, then they will.

This whole clusterfuck of "PRON WORX CUZ IT WORXED IN SOLITAIRE!" "NO IT DOESDENT CUZ PEPULZ US IT TO CAMP IN MINESWEEPER!" the last, like what 5-10 pages is just completely unnecessary.



Yeah, good luck trying to convince me with your infailable reasons when I don't really give a shit about if proneis added or not.
Good response. It's obvious that you don't know why you want prone.
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Old 2012-06-10, 07:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #861
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Originally Posted by Stardouser View Post
For me, this is about the proxy war which prone represents. Your faction wants to prevent people from having certain choices about how to play. Some of you call it camping, others slow gameplay, or whatever else. So let's skip out of the prone debate and look at it this way. Are you so confident that no-prone will solve all the problems you and others have cited that, if prone does not make it into the game, you would guarantee that you won't try to change the game in OTHER ways to try and force people to play your way?

In other words, when people still camp, still snipe effectively, still defend capture point rooms with crouching, etc, will you guarantee that you won't ask for killcam, 3D spotting, sniper scope glint, sniper rifle tracer trails as big as jumbo jet contrails, audiospotting(for who doesn't know, that means the instant you fire a shot you show up on the minimap, line of sight to anyone or not), or anything else designed to prevent people from playing how they want?

Because if we can draw a line in the sand at Prone, and not cross it, then you can have your non-prone PS2.

I will say one thing - if prone encourages camping/overcautious/unaggressive or slow play, so does a low TTK, and I know you've acknowledged that(subject to playing in Beta) the videos show a low TTK. So I know you're seeing the big picture - lets talk the big picture!
Well don't lump us all in together. I have stated several times I think prone takes a few things a little to far, making combat in certain situations go from tough and rewarding to futile and frustrating.

BTW what is 3D spotting?
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Old 2012-06-10, 07:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #862
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Re: Planetside 2 Needs Prone


Originally Posted by Stardouser View Post
sniper rifle tracer trails as big as jumbo jet contrails
Holy shit man, haven't you seen the sniperrifle tracer in the stream?

Like a laserbeam pointing right back where you sit, even empire-colorcoded for convinience.

Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
Good response. It's obvious that you don't know why you want prone.
If it's so good then you should probably, you know, read it.
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Old 2012-06-10, 07:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #863
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Re: Planetside 2 Needs Prone


Originally Posted by mirwalk View Post
Well don't lump us all in together. I have stated several times I think prone takes a few things a little to far, making combat in certain situations go from tough and rewarding to futile and frustrating.

BTW what is 3D spotting?
It's where a 3D triangle shows you exactly where to shoot. This thread will explain: http://www.planetside-universe.com/s...&postcount=155

Originally Posted by captainkapautz View Post
Holy shit man, haven't you seen the sniperrifle tracer in the stream?

Like a laserbeam pointing right back where you sit, even empire-colorcoded for convinience.
So that casualization already made it in...
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Old 2012-06-10, 07:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #864
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3D spotting.. That those little ^ we see above people in the stream? Well the ^ is upside down
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Old 2012-06-10, 07:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #865
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Re: Planetside 2 Needs Prone


There's been like 15 pages added to this thread since I posted last night. LOL

Prone win.
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Old 2012-06-10, 07:52 PM   [Ignore Me] #866
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Originally Posted by Envenom View Post
There's been like 15 pages added to this thread since I posted last night. LOL

Prone stalemate.
FTFY.
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Old 2012-06-10, 07:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #867
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Originally Posted by captainkapautz View Post
FTFY.
Poll says different
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Old 2012-06-10, 07:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #868
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Originally Posted by Envenom View Post
There's been like 15 pages added to this thread since I posted last night. LOL

Prone win.
Fosure! Mind you, the Mordor Army (core group of old school BF2 vets) is coming to PS2!
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Old 2012-06-10, 07:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #869
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Originally Posted by mirwalk View Post
Poll says different
Don't worry about him. There's obviously some sort of mental issue there.
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Old 2012-06-10, 07:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #870
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Originally Posted by mirwalk View Post
Poll says different
As if anyone in here gives a shit about the poll.

If that were the case people would've STFU about it, like what 48 pages ago?

Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
Don't worry about him. There's obviously some sort of mental issue there.
Man, I must've really gotten your panties in a bunch.

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