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View Poll Results: How powerful should the Sniper Rifle be? | |||
It shouldn't exist. | 2 | 2.38% | |
No one-hit kills. | 10 | 11.90% | |
One-hits to head on lighter armours. | 56 | 66.67% | |
One-hits anywhere on lighter armours. | 13 | 15.48% | |
One-hits on MAXes. | 3 | 3.57% | |
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2002-12-27, 03:53 PM | [Ignore Me] #31 | |||
RTCA implemented a system like this, where your sway gradually decreased down to nothing. I actually would have liked it to level off before it hit zero, but that's just me. With a cone of fire rather than a pixel-perfect system, swaying is not really needed. You just tighten up the cone as you hold still over time, and end up with a similar effect. |
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2002-12-27, 04:38 PM | [Ignore Me] #32 | ||
Here are the screenshots that are on this forum for the MAX.
Vanu http://planetside.station.sony.com/i...male_heavy.jpg NC http://planetside.station.sony.com/i...avy_Female.jpg Maybe it's just the angle, but it looks to me like the only thing protecting the face is a transparent screen of some sort. I dont' know what it is made of, but I somehow doubt it would stop a sniper rifle. For all these people saying that a sniper rifle shouldn't be able to hurt a max (on the whole forum, not on this thread as much), how do you suppose we kill one?? If a sniper bullet doesn't even scratch a max, there's no way in hell that any other bullet will either. Rifles simply have larger, more forcefully driven bullets. If that bounces off, there's no hope for any other gun that uses bullets to hurt one of these things and we're back to forcing everyone into carrying a damn rocket launcher of some sort. I don't know about the rest of you, but usually the only people with rocket launchers in the games I play are noobs. A max that can't be hurt by bullets just seems like a terrible way to force us to play how they want us to, so I hope that's terribly inaccurate and they can be taken down by regular shots. mistled -- I'm amazed, btw, that this has been as polite and cordial as it has. Maybe all the anti snipers are waiting to attack together. |
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2002-12-27, 04:55 PM | [Ignore Me] #33 | ||
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Indeed, but if you saw that gamespot movie with the vanu max, they were shooting at it with punishers and stuff like that for quite a while before it turned tail and fled. And the vanu max has the least armor of the three! Just imagine a squad trying to take down an NC max without anti-vehicular weapons!
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2002-12-27, 04:57 PM | [Ignore Me] #34 | ||||||
The Common Pool assault rifle also has an underslung grenade launcher which would do some damage to a MAX. And, of course, there are other MAX's, tanks, Reavers, buggies, and grenades that would all be able to damage a MAX. But, let's not rule out armor-piercing ammunition either (something bolt drivers will hopefully not have access to). Remember, though, that this isn't suppose to be a game of one-man armies running around. It's about large scale combat, and people filling niches. If you encounter a MAX and you're not equipped to fight a MAX, yes, you should die. Likewise, if a MAX runs into an infantryman with a rocket launcher and it's using an anti-aircraft weapon setup, then yes, the MAX should die.
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2002-12-27, 05:06 PM | [Ignore Me] #35 | ||
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mistled,
<I>"...how do you suppose we kill one?? If a sniper bullet doesn't even scratch a max, there's no way in hell that any other bullet will either."</I> <I>"Rifles simply have larger, more forcefully driven bullets."</I> You answered your own question - heavier hitting weapons. I agree - I hope snipers can't do a damned thing to a MAX. It's be nice if just ONCE one of these games got the sniper role right and relegated the bastards to fire support and demoralization, other than catering to the legions of idiots with names like "mastahsnipahpsychokillahgoku420" that think a sniper is a one-man army. If you want to take out a MAX, you ought to be using rifle grenades, hand grenades, rocket launchers, grenade launchers, and other heavier weapons. Think of the balance repreocussions - if snipers can pick off anything from long range, the game will become PlanetSniper - EVERYONE will be using a bolt driver, skulking around in the bushes and waiting for someone to pop his head up so they can have a kill. Really, snipers are nutcases - real world militaries don't rely on them as the backbone of their army because they're difficult to train and exceedingly few people have the necessary skills and mindset to do the job, which is practically a suicide mission. In a game, though, any idiot with the slighest bit of dexterity can turn into a halfway competant sniper, and the psychological factor is completely removed, so the <I>actual</I> controlling factors for the sniper population are removed, therefore, we need other factors to take their place, and making them weak(er) sounds like a damned fine substitute. I applaud PS, 'cause from the sounds of it, someone's finally making a game that's telling the sniper crowd to sit down, shutup, and play the role they're supposed to.
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2002-12-27, 05:06 PM | [Ignore Me] #36 | ||
I really don't like overly zealous pro snipers that think snipers should be the bane of all infantry.
It won't happen, most people are not snipers. the Devs will not cater to "the few, the proud, the snipers" or whatever you say. They cater to the masses. I also highly doubt the devs want a game of sniping... but annyways, you guys run around in the hills sniping me in my MAX while i run out of my transport and to a base for assaulting. |
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2002-12-27, 05:39 PM | [Ignore Me] #37 | ||
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This almost goes along with these threads.
Change the titles to "Sniper thread 1, 2 and 3" http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2002-12-13 |
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2002-12-28, 12:26 AM | [Ignore Me] #40 | ||
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I think they should just take snipers out of the game. Take the bolt driver, the snipers, and the Vanu right out of the game.
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2002-12-28, 02:09 AM | [Ignore Me] #42 | |||
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2002-12-28, 08:00 AM | [Ignore Me] #43 | ||
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I wasn't serious about that post Dio. I think they should leave the snipers in. The Vanu still have to go though They're just too creepy.
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2002-12-28, 10:58 AM | [Ignore Me] #44 | ||
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Well the bolt driver should have a one head shot kill on all armor classes except the MAX armors.
That just makes the best since, the bolt driver should do damage to MAX armors though just not anywhere near the damage it would do to lighter armors. Justin
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2002-12-28, 01:03 PM | [Ignore Me] #45 | |||
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I wasn't talking about you, more like 2 other people before you, i make it a point to not try and have a serious debate with people who result to "sit down and shut up". |
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