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Old 2003-06-14, 07:44 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Angry WARNING! A TR tactic you need to know about.


Here's the deal for anyone who gets caught by the TR using this tactic.

You take 10 or more Pounders and Bursters, back them up with Engineers and Medics. You take over a Bio Laboratory. As soon as the hack is finished and the base is yours you move everyone to the room behind and next to the Spawn Room and wait for the NC or Vanu to hack the base. As soon as they hack the base you move everyone back into the CC and rehack. While someone rehacks the base all of your Pounders kill anyone trying to approach the CC by spamming shells against the two doors that lead to the CC. Engineers and Medics keep everyone healed. 5 guys covering each door ensure that not even another MAX will make it into the room

As soon as you resecure the base move everyone to the spawn room and let the engineers repair the equipment. Everyone reloads and moves back into the room next to the spawn tubes. Wait for the idiot NC and Vanu to rehack the base and then move everyone back to the CC so you can rehack and do it all over again.

No one really checks that back room and if they do you kill anyone poking their head in.

You can do this all night long or at least until the facility runs out of power.

You rack up mega kills for everyone and you get all the BEP from resecuring the base over and over again.

The idiot NC and Vanu never catch on unless of course Gonnagetyou is there and see's what's going down. He tries to get everyone to stop rehacking the base and concentrate on the spawn room and that back room while someone takes out the generator if they can. But, does anyone really listen. NO! They just keep throwing themselves at that damn CC feeding the Pounders. Oh eventully a few people get the idea, but by then the TR have accumulted 1000s of BEP without a single casualty.

I can see were this tactic will work in many other circumstances as will, but the Bio Laboratory seems to be the most ideal.

This is one tactic no other empire can duplicate. I saw this happen before the TR MAX nerf, but it hasn't made it less effective. I'm not sure who the group is using this, but they are on Markov and both times I've seen it happen it was late at night and they controlled the southern most Bio Lab on Amerish. Late at night they know they will be up against small opposition and they can rake in the BEP before calling it quits for the night.

The best tactis against it is to concentrate on destroying base equipment and wait for the base to go neutral. Don't even go down to feed them BEP and wait for them to get bored. That's my advice anyway. With enough people you could overwhelm them I suppose, but you'd just be doing what they want you to do.
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Old 2003-06-14, 07:53 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Oh, by the way I'm not going to really cry foul on this one, because the guy that thought of it is a freaking Genius. It works, drives your opponent nuts and allows your guys to rack up BEP without dying.

Of course others may have a different opinion.

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Old 2003-06-14, 07:56 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Holy Hamma sex...

/me presses ALT+F4 continuously and opens PS.
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Old 2003-06-14, 09:29 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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It's an interesting tactic. One I'll probably use when no leapfrogging is implemented, so I can hold a base with a minumal force.

But otherwise, all it provided is bxp. And all bxp does is give them more certs, so they can wear better and different armors. So when they fight a skilled BR 1 guy, that BR 1 guys gets a lot of exp for killing them.
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Old 2003-06-14, 09:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Originally posted by Crono
Holy Hamma sex...
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Old 2003-06-14, 11:07 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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did someone say hamma sex? where? when? unF!
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Old 2003-06-14, 11:10 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Originally posted by Crono
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Old 2003-06-14, 11:25 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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man i knew tr are wuzzes, cant fite for beans
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Old 2003-06-14, 11:40 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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couldnt anyone do that with sunds?
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Old 2003-06-14, 11:49 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Jeez, putting Maxes in the CC, and then having people in there to repair them...that sure seems unfair to me!
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Old 2003-06-14, 12:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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its not a wuss tactic, jesus its a plan

problem is, i do check all the rooms, and if they killed me id order a spawn tube hit and rush in and kill them

hell, i call it goin "solid snake on their ass" when, durin a big battle i walk right thru the base, get to CC and hack in, screwing the defenders out of their respawns

when u are allowed to respawn during a hack, inf suits will be worthless
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Old 2003-06-14, 12:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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I didn't say it was unfair, and I said I wasn't complaining. Anyone who sits and feeds them BEP is a fool to begin with once they figure out what's going on.

I know I threw myself at those guys a lot myself last night. I wanted to see exactly how many there were and how were they setting up. They were very organized and my hats off to them for the amount of dicipline and control they showed.

I wish I'd grabbed a screenshot when I ran into that back room next to the spawn tubes. The wall was literally covered elbow to elbow with anchored MAX suits with more standing down the stairs. Most of them sitting with darklight on. I barely had time to look around let alone think of hitting the = key in time.
There had to have been more than ten plus all the support guys.

Another reason the Bio Laboratory CC is ideal for this, and I don't know if they have thought of this or not, but the room were you get your certs and implants is conveniently located there and contains lockers. If you need something and can't make it back to the spawn tubes in time just run in and get it from your locker as long as you stocked it full of repair kits and ammo ahead of time.

It was interesting watching how they would fight back to the spawn tubes, repair everything, load up and then just appear to disappear. Fooling everyone into thinking it was safe to go back and rehack the base, only to have them come pouring back into the CC one minute after the lights start flashing. Conveniently resecuring the base over and over again.

There is one thing I will complain about the tactic. That is if it starts happening a lot and at more facilities, then the game will get old fast. No one enjoys a grinding spam fest. Too many things in the game can be repetitive as it is. A fight were all you do is either feed the machine or sit around waiting them out isn't a fun game at all.
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Old 2003-06-14, 12:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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No one enjoys a grinding spam fest.
You're not kidding...I'm getting flashbacks of Tribes 2 plasma mortar-fests.

That said, I think some of the upcoming changes will make this (and some other annoying strategies to face) a little harder to pull off.
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Old 2003-06-14, 01:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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To be honest, I think it is your fault for not knowing they are doing this and thowing ure selves at them.

Also it seems to me that this *kind* of tactic is not really that exclusive to the TR, anyone could pull it off.

*sigh* yes I play TR but have never seen nor participated in this - I like a good fight, even if do love in the end.
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Old 2003-06-14, 01:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Originally posted by rage2021
man i knew tr are wuzzes, cant fite for beans
never thought they were that low, really
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