iRiver vs iPod I need help deciding

[EineBeBoP]

So I'm looking into a Hard drive mp3 player.
My top 2 choices are the iPod (20 gb) and the iRiver (20 gb) .

Main reason I want one is i'm going to europe for about a month this summer, and I dont wanna carry around my CDs. (they could get broken/lost/scratched/heavy/etc.) A mp3 player is the perfect solution it seems, im just not sure which.
Battery time is also an important factor. about 6-8 hrs on an ipod, with around 16 hrs with the iriver. I wont be able to plug these in everywhere, and who knows how long ill be listening to it. I DONT want it running out of batteries on me.

I don't care too much about looks, they're same size, close in dimentions (River is a bit heavier), sound quality is close enough that i prolly wont hear any major differance.

Price dosent really matter, but i dont wanna pay more than $400 (i've found iriver for 315 so ignore the price quoted on its site)

I want suggestions, reviews (if you have one of these)

I've used Corrosion's iPod several times and love it, but it dosent have all the features I want (FM radio, good control, audio in/out) Is the iPod good enough that i should give these up for it?

I hear controls take a bit to get usted to on the iriver, but thats no big deal. I love experimenting with new toys.

A big plus for the iRiver is that its viewed as an external HD to your computer (Windows only plz, I hear it sucks with macs [but whp cares?]) and you drag/drop instead of using a 3rd party program like with ipod.

Lemme know what you think please.

[Octavian]

iPod sucks as far as I know, iRiver just sounds like a complete clone of it.

[Squeeky]

Just get a fucking mp3 cd player you jiglets

[Octavian]

Jiglet* I don't want either of them, it's Eine's problem.

[BigFreak]

I really like my iPod...and it has games and stuff...so might help ease the long journey

[Jaged]

Buy my 30 gig ipod! Its barely used. Most of its life was spent in an iSkin case that I would send you for free.

Edit: Detail on the ipod are available here.
http://www.planetside-universe.com/f...ad.php?t=20117

[Squeeky]

How much Jaged? Hook teh squeekar up?

[Dharkbayne]

Save your iMoney for a fucking iCDPlayer. It'll save you about 200 bucks.

[Octavian]

Damn, everything starts with an "i" now, what has this world come to?

[Indecisive]

Originally Posted by Octavian

Damn, everything starts with an "i" now, what has this world come to?

Yes.

[Sputty]

iShut up the fuck, you iNoob

[Onizuka-GTO]

I own a ipod (40GB) its great. =D

But i must admit it has a short battery life. =(

Only last 5hrs (6 if your careful)

I think the new version of the ipod might be getting better batteries but im not sure, regardless i still like the ipod but it does make it impratical taking the ipod anywhere that a mains power socket isn't available on long hauls, like Airflights or coach rides.
In hind-sight i think you should get one with more battery life if you only concern about the music bit, but if you want a sazzy all rounder you should get ipod if your not thinking of travelling out of a powered grid sector, and you want to show it off and not develop a six-pack from lugging it about in your handbag.

P.S: You can use the ipod for a external HD too.

[Biohazzard56]

Thats cause you have the 40 GB model, ive tried both mp3 players (my friend has an iRiver) and can say that the iPod is 100% better. Get the 15 or even the 10GB model its very hard to fill up. The battery life is good if you dont get the bigger models such as the 40 GB.

[mechaman]

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=19&l=en&s=dhs

[Indecisive]

Lets put it this way. What does the Ipod have that the Iriver does not.

DIEAPPLEANDITUNES.