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Old 2004-03-25, 03:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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On this im willing to spend the 100$ if it has everything. Which one of these is the best for doing repair moding and engineering. Im not sure if the 99$ one has everything the other ones have. What are your oppinions? What other good kits do you know of?

http://www.knightonline.com/toolkits3.htm

http://www.knightonline.com/toolkits2.htm

http://www.knightonline.com/toolkits1.htm

Im stuck between the ETK-305, ETK-205MC, ETK-405, and PC-8L.

What would you get? Why wouldnt you get the others?

So far im considering the ETK 405, but im not sure if it has as much. I need the IC pullers for my older comps, ill need the soldering soon, And i need the stuff that will be good for moding/and general use, like the wire stripers. IM also going to try to get a decent drill with the drill bits i need for making new screwholes for cases and to just drill different holes. I also definitely need the ability(form the kit i buy) to cut through the aluminum and other materials of most cases, and the ability to take out all of the cheaper types of fasteners they use so often on factory built things. I also need tools for Water Cooling stuff. Preferebly more WC tools than less.

What do you think? I could use some opinions right now.

Edit: I would just like to add this

https://webvia.techni-tool.com/VIA5/...omputertoolkit > Techni-Tool tool kit > TecTuffKits-Wheeled
^ when i get a good job! the 1366$ one.

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Old 2004-03-25, 04:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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I don't see why you would need any of that stuff. I've never used more than a screwdriver.

All you need for watercooling is a Tube cutter, thats the only thing that you won't have lying around the house(and you don't realy even need that)

I guess if you were into modding you would need a Dremel rotary thingy those things can do everything you need besides making screwholes for that just you a regualr drill.

Get a Dermel and thats all you realy need for cutting tools, files to smooth the edges then a small philips screwdriver.
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Old 2004-03-25, 05:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Well im hoping to go into repair just to start. So im expecting worse case senario, like stripped screws and hard to work parts from misuse. I also tend to find a alot of want for better tools in general, and i know im going to get alot of use out of them. Especially with the lv of use i want out of them. Like i said i also need stuff for use with older comps, since i want to be able to do full rehalls with my old comps(pre pentium computers). Ill look for a Dremel too. Im also expecting to do things where i wont be able to do them without tools. And im going into Engineering and am going to need stuff for the classes, and i plan to use the engineering thing for a lot of personal use as well as work eventually.

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Old 2004-03-25, 06:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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This is the tool kit that I have. It has everything you need to do general PC repair, plus a bunch of other stuff. The long thin screw drivers that it has are simply the best way to work on small cases or other tight situations. If PC repair is what you want to do, that kit has everything you need. There are a lot of other kits there if that one is too expensive. BTW, it definatley does pay to have a multimeter for doing PC repair and modding.

If you want to do modding then you definately need a dremel. There is simply no way around it. You will not be able to do any good modding without a dremel. Well, you could by very expensive tools that each do one of the dremels many functions. But that would be stupid.

You don't need a soldering iron if you're just going to do PC repair. The wires are simply too small to work with by hand now. If something goes bad, you generally have to replace it because there is no way to fix it. If you're modding, I suggest you just pick one up from RadioShack or some other hobby store.
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Old 2004-03-26, 04:48 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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You don't need a soldering iron if you're just going to do PC repair. The wires are simply too small to work with by hand now. If something goes bad, you generally have to replace it because there is no way to fix it. If you're modding, I suggest you just pick one up from RadioShack or some other hobby store.
Pick up a soldering iron or the dremel. Doesnt it say it have a soldering iron in that kit? And i can use it for stuff on really old comps if i need. I wouldnt mind having one anyway. I was going to use it atleast for modifying other electronics like rewireing small boards from like led screens, or other odd electronics i wanted to add like stuff to make the front door of the case open and close on its own threw the computer maybe and other odd mods(i have a very broad interest in electroinics and i want to try to get to make mods like that for a local computer store or something and sell very specially moded systems.), and if i wanted to modify any really old computers or motherboards. Can you get a dremel that make screw holes in aluminum? and how much do dremels cost? And talking of broad interest, What of this kit is good for the other side or repair. Namely tvs, vcrs, dvds, etc, new and old. I still have a thing for the stuff that was around when i was young and would like the tools to do stuff with them, and i like to meld old and new stuff.

But, yea, i really like that kit. I think i can afford to get it and a dremel if i can get a good enough one for around 50 dollars.

Edit: Do you think one of these is worth getting?

http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/s...sp?T1=115+0375

http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/s...sp?T1=115+7750

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Old 2004-03-26, 11:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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This is my main Computer kit - http://www.tecratools.com/pages/datacom/80120.html
This is my network kit - http://www.tecratools.com/pages/datacom/80112.html
I have a Coax and Fiber kit but I usually keep them at work. Work payed for all of these.

In addition to that stuff above, I use :
http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...124&pfp=SEARCH
Can't forget my Fluke - DSP-4300 - http://www.flukenetworks.com/us/Cabl...s/Overview.htm

It all really depends what you are looking to do. I can get almost everything computer oriented done with that CompUSA kit I have, the other kits all rock in thier own ways.
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Old 2004-03-26, 11:54 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Which multimeder is better and what do you look for in them? Do you know how those multimeters compare. Theres no description in the Lead kits description. Im guessing the Fluke is alot better. Actually do you know how much it cost?

I think im still going with the Lead one for now. Its about 100 peice from what i can tell. I think it has the most stuff ill use in it. Or will have use for.

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Old 2004-03-27, 06:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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The multimeter in the Lead tech kit has all the functions you'll ever need it to have. That Fluke is a cable tester, not a multimeter. Testers like that are usually very expensive. It's probably well out of your price range.

The soldering iron in the lead tech kit works, but it's butane, not electric. I don't really like it. I think it's kind of cheap, but I didn't buy the kit for the soldering iron. If you're going to do any serious soldering - especially with many different types of components - I would recommend you get an adjustable wattage electric one.

I'm not sure how much dremels cost these days, or weather there's a specific bit for making screw holes. You'll just have to search around and find out. BTW, the cordless dremels don't pack as much power as the corded ones. So if you're going to be cutting sheet metal (computer cases) I'd suggest a corded one with adjustable speed.
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Old 2004-03-28, 12:16 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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In my 10+ years of electronics work, Fluke has never failed me. Be sure to get one with an autosensor as opposed to the actual switches for the different values. So much easier to use.
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