Planetside NEXT on PC and ... ps3

[Exano]

Playing mag has seriously got me thinking. What if they launched Planetside Next on PC and Ps3? The PS3 certainly has the capacity, and the control scheme could easily be mapped out in a similar fashion.

The way MAG played it seemed like a planetside-esque game. They have huge maps, a "cert" system, and the like, putting it into an open world doesnt seem like such a far stretch. Any thoughts?

[DviddLeff]

I hope that very soon we see PC, PS3 and 360 games all playing in the same online space.

[Furret]

Two things:
1) It'd be great if they could put PlanetSide on consoles (most likely PS3 since this is Sony we're talking about) if only to get more people to know about the game. Personally, I think Planetside is a little to in-depth for the number of buttons you have on the controller, but it'd be interesting to see it happen.

2) I'm not sure if there's a difference in the abilities of a console gamer and a PC gamer. Personally, when i play COD online on my PS3, I'm raging (with my below 1.00 KDR) at the screen going "AAAUGHH IF ONLY I COULD PLUG IN MY MOUSE AND KEYBOARD", because i know if i had the mouse, i'd aim much better, and generally feel more at home. Maybe it's just a matter of what you got used to when you started gaming, but I feel that a PC gamer has much more control over their aim, and would therefore have a slight advantage over a console gamer (If they were matched against each other).

[Exano]

Originally Posted by Furret

Two things:
1) It'd be great if they could put PlanetSide on consoles (most likely PS3 since this is Sony we're talking about) if only to get more people to know about the game. Personally, I think Planetside is a little to in-depth for the number of buttons you have on the controller, but it'd be interesting to see it happen.

2) I'm not sure if there's a difference in the abilities of a console gamer and a PC gamer. Personally, when i play COD online on my PS3, I'm raging (with my below 1.00 KDR) at the screen going "AAAUGHH IF ONLY I COULD PLUG IN MY MOUSE AND KEYBOARD", because i know if i had the mouse, i'd aim much better, and generally feel more at home. Maybe it's just a matter of what you got used to when you started gaming, but I feel that a PC gamer has much more control over their aim, and would therefore have a slight advantage over a console gamer (If they were matched against each other).

#1) I was thinking that myself too, but after sitting down with a game like mag, I don't really see why not. The shoulder buttons switch weapons, joystick moves / aims (Also clicking the joystick brings out your knife), that leaves us with one joystick button, four face buttons, four d-pad buttons and then anything that relates to the interface part of the game would either need to change or be used with the back/start buttons.

#2) Other games on PS3 have mouse and keyboard support, and I totally agree with you on this point to a certain extent, joysticks are definatly not for everybody and I definatly do prefer a mouse. OR (This is what I wouldn't like to see) They could handle it like shadowrun, with PC and 360 players playing together, and just make it so the accuracy of the guns is a bit lower than pinpoint for everyone.

[Sifer2]

If your a PC gamer mainly you shouldn't ask for this. When ever a project is not PC exclusive it means massive changes to the game to cater to the console platform. The game will be dumbed down in general. An these changes will affect the PC version cause publishers don't spend more money on PC versions of the game they just port.

Also just because MAG ran on PS3 does not mean a Planetside game as we know it could. MAG games take place on individual maps. It's essentially just Battlefield with more players. Planetside is massive continents with multiple bases. Whether the PS3 could handle that an still have graphics anywhere near MAG level is unknown.

[Furret]

So what if planetside was run LIKE individual maps.
Your character can only be on one continent at a time, so for all the game has to worry about, you're on that map, playing in that battle. When you switch to a new continent, you're effectively switching games.

Its a pretty simple concept to understand, but it's hard as hell to explain, so i'm not sure if i'm getting it accross.

MAG
was run where one game has a certain number of players, but there would be more than one game running at a time.

PlanetSide
could be run where one game server (Called Ishundar), is running a game mode where there's no time limit, kill limit, or anything, and its just a massive battle that people join in, fight, then leave. If you want to go to the battle on Hossin, you simply leave the game server Ishundar and go to the game server Hossin, where another infinite time limit, infinite kill game is being run.
The servers would have to talk to each other a bit, but people would never have to be on Hossin and Ishundar at the same time.

Anyone understand that?

[Infektion]

Originally Posted by DviddLeff

I hope that very soon we see PC, PS3 and 360 games all playing in the same online space.

Sorry, but that's just completely unfair, for PS3 and 360 owners. Reason being is that i'm using a keyboard/mouse, and your head is on my sights. It's just really unfair if you think about it. No way controller will have the speed and accuracy of real-time twitch gaming.

[Valverde]

Originally Posted by DviddLeff

I hope that very soon we see PC, PS3 and 360 games all playing in the same online space.

We already do. With Final Fantasy Online or PSO/PSU.

[Baneblade]

Actually, it was demonstrated that the gamepad alone has more practical control functionality than mouse and board.

[DviddLeff]

Which game was it where PC players could fight those on the consoles?

Pretty sure that ended up with PC users cleaning up due to the superior accuracy of the mouse alone.

[Vancha]

Originally Posted by Sobekeus

Actually, it was demonstrated that the gamepad alone has more practical control functionality than mouse and board.

I have at least 96 keys on my keyboard available for gaming (excluded some like capslock and windows keys), add to that the 3 buttons equivalent to triggers on my mouse, the button on the side of it and the fact that the mouse is far better as a camera control in FPS...

Do you have a link to this demonstration you spoke of? The only thing I can think of that a console controller has over a mouse is the ability to control strength (pushing slightly on the joystick/triggers can act differently to pushing all the way). Though thinking about the aircraft in PS, a mouse could do that too...

[Baneblade]

Originally Posted by Vancha

I have at least 96 keys on my keyboard available for gaming

So you actually use every single one of those 96 keys in your practical keymaps?

And why haven't you hacked your capslock or windows keys yet?

[Hamma]

And demonstrated by whom?

I'm sorry but thats a crock.

Sounds more like an opinion of someone as opposed to a fact. It is a limited interface and games designed specifically for it or with it in mind end up shitty on the PC plain and simple.

[Vancha]

Originally Posted by Sobekeus

So you actually use every single one of those 96 keys in your practical keymaps?

No.

Originally Posted by Sobekeus

And why haven't you hacked your capslock or windows keys yet?

Originally Posted by Vancha

No.

Thinking about planetside though...

Foward/Back/Strafe-left/Strafe-right
Jump
Crouch
Fire
Alternate fire
Enter vehicle+Use terminal
Character screen
Squad screen
Map screen
Implant screen
Outfit screen
Inventory
Pistol 1
Pistol 2
Rifle 1
Rifle 2
Knife
Implant 1
Implant 2
Implant 3
Medkit
Zoom

That's what I can remember off the top of my head from having played 2 years ago. I think you'd have trouble fitting that onto a console controller.

Now consider that there was the chat window which used forward slash or enter, along with the keys you needed to say what you wanted to say. Add to that the three different voice-command menus that were navigated by keypress...

Also, mouse+keyboard gives you the ability to be holding 5 keys and 3 mouse-buttons at once, while still being able to look around. I can be strafing sideways, moving foward, crouching, reloading my gun, firing and use a medpack without needing to move my fingers to different buttons/keys (W+A+Ctrl+R+Mouse 1+Mouse 4). Granted, not a situation that will come up all too often, but still...

[DviddLeff]

I reckon you can fit all the controls onto a console, just not fast typing unless the console owner has a keyboard.

Don't forget that all the menus can feed into one another; there's no reason the Character, Squad, Map, Implant, Outfit and even the Inventory cant all come off one key press combined with a direction.