The Liberator

[Grognard]

There does not seem to be a lot of information on this craft... I didnt see anything show up on the auto-search when you start a thread, so I would like to know some more details, if I missed stuff.

Is it 2 or 3 crewed? From last I think I heard... it was still a 3 crew craft, but that tail gun needs to be worth a damn, or it will just be superfluous.

What kind of gun does the pilot get? I kinda liked the forward gun in PS1, I hope the forward-arc gun is decent. I like the gunship feel... popping over trees or structures to fire, then dipping down, or running a strafe. Hide n seek kinda stuff with an aircraft, saw helo pilots do this in the marines, always thought it was cool.

Most importantly for my daughter/gunner... what is the main gun now supposed to be like? I read somewhere it is similar to an AC-130?! LOL, thats going to be one mean sumbitch... I think that would be like firing a howitzer from the sky... has the main gun-type been verified (as much as it can be at this point...)? I hope it is not fired from just one side like the AC-130, I prefer a more centered gun... though it would be hell-in-air to have a flying howitzer...

From my questions, you can see that I am trying to wrap my head around how to employ this thing, so help me out here...

[Ait'al]

I saw something somewhere. Might be in the post on top in one of it's links. It says something about it being(potentially) a gunship instead of a bomber but having 3 seats. It's a gunship for effectiveness in combat or something. There were some other details but I can't remember them off the top of my head.

[tylerNC]

If I'm not mistaken they said it will be 3 man, and have a centered main gun.

[Grognard]

Good. Centered gun, and not a bomber... I think that makes it a great candidate for me and my gunner, since its going to be hard to convince her to get out of a MagRider...

I wish Higby would park his reaver for a little while, get some of his co-workers and give a Liberator a bit of a spin... I want to hear... that... gun...

[Talek Krell]

3 person. No word on what will be done to make the tailgun useful, but they'll have to do something in beta if they don't in alpha.

It retains a good pilot gun, though I'm not sure of specifics.

The main gun is a downward facing 150mm cannon (the Vanguard's gun). The firing arc is similar to what you could hit with bombs in the original version but somewhat larger, so the experience for the pilot hasn't changed fundamentally but the bomber gets a much greater say in what they shoot at and when.

All of this is my understanding, and subject to being wrong. You'll notice I haven't said anything about customization, that's because I haven't heard anything. Looking forward to flying it.

[Knocky]

Originally Posted by Talek Krell

3 person. No word on what will be done to make the tailgun useful, but they'll have to do something in beta if they don't in alpha.

You want a useful tailgun?

One word: "Flak"

[Raymac]

Originally Posted by Grognard

that tail gun needs to be worth a damn, or it will just be superfluous.

Originally Posted by Talek Krell

No word on what will be done to make the tailgun useful, but they'll have to do something in beta if they don't in alpha.

It's thinking like this that helped boost my air to air kill stats by taking out defenseless Libs.

[Talek Krell]

Originally Posted by Raymac

It's thinking like this that helped boost my air to air kill stats by taking out defenseless Libs.

How does thinking that the tailgun needs to be worth manning so that Libs won't be defenseless help your kill stats?

[Raymac]

Originally Posted by Talek Krell

How does thinking that the tailgun needs to be worth manning so that Libs won't be defenseless help your kill stats?

I meant the people who thought the PS1 Lib tailgun was useless. You'd be amazed at how few people bring a tail gunner.

[Talek Krell]

Originally Posted by Raymac

You'd be amazed at how few people bring a tail gunner.

Have you ever tried to get that damn seat filled?
I may have mis-spoken. It wasn't a matter of the tailgun being useless, but that it was nigh impossible to get anyone to man it. I couldn't even get my outfit mates in the thing, and pubbers were more likely to be using me as a dropship. Eventually I just learned to dogfight. ^_^

Actually thinking back the tailgun was almost disturbingly effective. That thing sliced through MAX armor like butter.

[BorisBlade]

Originally Posted by Talek Krell

Have you ever tried to get that damn seat filled?
I may have mis-spoken. It wasn't a matter of the tailgun being useless, but that it was nigh impossible to get anyone to man it. I couldn't even get my outfit mates in the thing, and pubbers were more likely to be using me as a dropship. Eventually I just learned to dogfight. ^_^

Actually thinking back the tailgun was almost disturbingly effective. That thing sliced through MAX armor like butter.

Ill take the tail gun seat any day, that thing was awesome if you had a good pilot for taking out many things or just to destroy those dumb reavers/skeeters who thought they would take you out. Personally i dont like bombing, its boring and braindead, i'll take the rear gunner seat over the bomber seat every time.

[Bazilx]

I am a big fan of vehicles that take more than 1 person to operate, a vehicle with several guns/stations for people to operate sounds really exciting, I have a group of friends and if we could all get into the same vehicle that would be tits.

Originally Posted by Grognard

Is it 2 or 3 crewed? From last I think I heard... it was still a 3 crew craft, but that tail gun needs to be worth a damn, or it will just be superfluous.

I read this instead.

[BNuts]

Or a rear-firing missile/rocket system

[Timealude]

Originally Posted by BNuts

Or a rear-firing missile/rocket system

I think thats a lil over kill lol

[Timealude]

Originally Posted by Grognard

There does not seem to be a lot of information on this craft... I didnt see anything show up on the auto-search when you start a thread, so I would like to know some more details, if I missed stuff.

Is it 2 or 3 crewed? From last I think I heard... it was still a 3 crew craft, but that tail gun needs to be worth a damn, or it will just be superfluous.

What kind of gun does the pilot get? I kinda liked the forward gun in PS1, I hope the forward-arc gun is decent. I like the gunship feel... popping over trees or structures to fire, then dipping down, or running a strafe. Hide n seek kinda stuff with an aircraft, saw helo pilots do this in the marines, always thought it was cool.

Most importantly for my daughter/gunner... what is the main gun now supposed to be like? I read somewhere it is similar to an AC-130?! LOL, thats going to be one mean sumbitch... I think that would be like firing a howitzer from the sky... has the main gun-type been verified (as much as it can be at this point...)? I hope it is not fired from just one side like the AC-130, I prefer a more centered gun... though it would be hell-in-air to have a flying howitzer...

From my questions, you can see that I am trying to wrap my head around how to employ this thing, so help me out here...

may be able to spec the gal like that :P