Gameplay: MAX crush?

[Kriegson]

Just a thought, assuming it's not in already or planned. I know people are vehemently against quick-knifing, and frankly I agree.
But I would find it very strange if a MAX was unable to crush puny humans with it's hand/lobster claws as they circle strafed around it in close proximity.

Thus my suggestion: MAX crush. At the range of a few feet the MAX can sweep one of it's massive arms in a blow that will do massive damage to infantry and even some modest damage/disruption to vehicles.

Maybe later on, it could actually have a little animation where the Max grabs a person and slams them to the ground/crushes them in it's grip/shoots it with the other weapon/etc.

[Zekeen]

I wouldn't be apposed to this. I think a MAX needs a sort of heavy melee, just makes sense.

[Gonefshn]

how could a VS max pic someone up with no hands?

Secondly, I said this before in a very similar thread.
With faster TTK and the powerful weapons on a MAX when will an infantry ever be that close to you. You should have shot them long before that point. your not going to able to survive in front of a MAX in the open much less 5 feet away you'll be dead way to quick.the only time someone will get close is from behind and this ability wont even work when people are behind you anyways.

[Zekeen]

Originally Posted by Gonefshn

how could a VS max pic someone up with no hands

http://www.planetside-universe.com/m...fb9c079ab4.jpg

The claws are guns over the hands.

[Gonefshn]

Originally Posted by Zekeen

http://www.planetside-universe.com/m...fb9c079ab4.jpg

The claws are guns over the hands.

so it puts down the guns? my point stands.

[GhettoPrince]

It's power armor, I don't think you should be able to melee in it , you have the strength, but you just don't have the reflexes or the speed.

I like the idea of MAX charging into someone for damage, cause it's so easy to sidestep if you see it coming, but as for the rest, you already have flamethrowers.

[Purple]

the issue with a max melee is that it takes away one of the biggest disadvantages of the max. a LA can run around and shoot it in its back unless the max has support to keep that from happening.

[PlaceboCyanide]

Shoulder-Slam for maxes, they have so much mass it would deliver the desired effect. It would also be far easier to code/animate. Another possible solution might be certification/attachment to MAX weapons ala Gears of War.

With the new infiltrator stealth this could be a real threat for maxes separated from a group. Something should be done to mitigate that, unless this is an intended achilles heel of the max they want to leave in.

[Kriegson]

Originally Posted by Purple

the issue with a max melee is that it takes away one of the biggest disadvantages of the max. a LA can run around and shoot it in its back unless the max has support to keep that from happening.

The disadvantage of the MAX isn't the lack of an attack that only effects an area directly in front of it, in a very short range. =/
You can still circle strafe a MAX, but you just have to stay behind or to the side of it. But being caught dead in front of a MAX should be as much a death sentence as being in front of a tank or aircraft barreling down in your direction.

Originally Posted by Gonefshn

how could a VS max pic someone up with no hands?

Secondly, I said this before in a very similar thread.
With faster TTK and the powerful weapons on a MAX when will an infantry ever be that close to you. You should have shot them long before that point. your not going to able to survive in front of a MAX in the open much less 5 feet away you'll be dead way to quick.the only time someone will get close is from behind and this ability wont even work when people are behind you anyways.

As I said, the initial concept would simply be a powerful if ungraceful sweep of their arm. Figuring out how the VS have a more animated crush would be something we could work out later. Perhaps it might have something unnerving like articulated spines that extend from the armature to stab the target?

The exact same argument can be made about tanks. Do you think tanks shouldn't be able to run people over?

[Gonefshn]

Originally Posted by Kriegson

The exact same argument can be made about tanks. Do you think tanks shouldn't be able to run people over?

That's not true at all a MAX and a tank are totally different things. Tanks can't go inside and are manned by multiple people it's a totally different game space your talking about.

[Aldman]

Oooh, the melee Max! One chainsaw and one lobster claw covered with smaller chainsaws!

On a more serious note, I think that this would need to be an ability requiring the Max to pause or 'dig-in' before initiating, in order to give infantry a small chance to jump out of the way. Of course, in a crowded corridor, there might be no escape!

[Talek Krell]

They confirmed that there was a MAX melee of some sort. My suspicion is that it would be a forward sweep with a knockback effect and light-moderate damage. Intended more to create space than deal damage.

[Kriegson]

Originally Posted by GhettoPrince

I think an infiltrator should be a threat to ANY ground unit thats been seperated from its group, they are the wolves of planetside, and with no more vehicle jacking they kind of lose their agent of chaos role.

And indeed they are. I imagine a knife in the back of a MAX would do a lot of damage, and they have a much smaller silhouette, making them harder targets to hit.
Not to mention headshots are supposed to deal significant damage, which is another thing any self respecting infil-sniper should excel at.

Originally Posted by Talek Krell

They confirmed that there was a MAX melee of some sort. My suspicion is that it would be a forward sweep with a knockback effect and light-moderate damage. Intended more to create space than deal damage.

Well, something is better than nothing, though I'm not sure how I feel about it having light-moderate damage =/

If it effectively sends someone flying back all discombobulated (Confused due to screen shake) then that's fine. But if it just shunts them a few feet away...not so impressive.

[Marinealver]

I think there was already a post on a MAX having a meele attack. Not a weapon but just something for very close defence. Not like an actual max weapon.