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Old 2012-06-15, 06:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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I feel like the E3 demo brought in a lot of new fans. The game looks great, but SOE needs to build this community, and they can't do that if they only release information every few months. SOE isn't Bioware or Vavle, the name alone isn't going to get people to try their game. In order to keep the momentum up that they gained at E3 they need to keep feeding the community, otherwise people will stop paying attention.

Also if SOE doesn't start the beta test by July I doubt they will be able to release the game by this Fall. PC gamers understand the difference between a beta test and a demo; bugs and crashes should be downright expected. The livestream at E3 displayed some pretty bad bugs, but nothing game breaking.... it looked perfectly playable to me. Even weekend only evening tests would be a good start. Come on SOE, don't be afraid to show your warts. The community is here to help, not to judge the game on unfinished beta version.

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Old 2012-06-15, 06:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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PC gamers understand the difference between a beta test and a demo...
Very few gamers understand that difference. When we're talking about FPS gamers and F2P gamers? Not a prayer
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Old 2012-06-15, 06:42 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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I think they want to get all of the assets in the game before they launch the beta (in order to make sure everything gets tested in the same environment). From the look of it, they are still missing quite a bit.

It would be nice to get a look at some renders or some footage of the HA weapons (lasher, jackhammer, chaingun).
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Old 2012-06-15, 06:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Very few gamers understand that difference. When we're talking about FPS gamers and F2P gamers? Not a prayer
The fact that the BF3 "beta" came out after the game went gold doesn't really help my case either.
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Old 2012-06-15, 06:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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The fact that the BF3 "beta" came out after the game went gold doesn't really help my case either.
Wow... I didn't even know about that. That's just pathetic in a non-funny way.
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Old 2012-06-15, 06:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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they give us new info everyday. just yesterday we learned that Higby's dog does not like the NC.
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Old 2012-06-15, 07:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Demos are meant to represent the final product, they should be just as much up to date and bug free as the complete package, many developers don't understand this and they'll end up treating the demo as some kind of beta phase.

With that being said developers happen to also treat a beta wrongly. In many cases they'll consider fixing a minority of problems suggested in the beta and ultimately come out with a product full of bugs. This happens because many developers don't see a beta as a testing phase but rather a tactic for advertisement.

My point is the problem isn't in the players, it's irrelevant if they can't differentiate between a demo or a beta. It's all on the developers and how they interpret the word.
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Old 2012-06-15, 06:40 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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A little premature, aren't we?

They said "the next few weeks" in E3... last week. I don't disagree with anything you've said, but we haven't even gotten to their self-set deadline, so I think it's way early and rather Chicken Little to start running around going "OMG, they NEEED to release the beta or everything's DOOOMED!"

They plan to. And so far, much as we're all craving beta, they're not even late yet.

Welcome to the forums, in any case.
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Old 2012-06-15, 10:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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When I read the title of the thread my only thought was how SOE had best remove that ADADAD dodging bullshit that was in PS1.

If they'd just make a patch now to fix that maybe I shouldn't be so terrible at PS1.
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Old 2012-06-15, 11:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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When I read the title of the thread my only thought was how SOE had best remove that ADADAD dodging bullshit that was in PS1.

If they'd just make a patch now to fix that maybe I shouldn't be so terrible at PS1.
Never play PS1, but I'm ok with strafing as long as there is weight to your movement.
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Old 2012-06-15, 11:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Never play PS1, but I'm ok with strafing as long as there is weight to your movement.
Then you have no idea what he's talking about.

I haven't played either but I've read up about it. In PS1 you can make yourself harder to hit by spamming back and forth because the game overcompensates for your potential movement in both directions as part of its lag compensation code. Result is your hit box becomes smaller.

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Old 2012-06-15, 11:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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I know what the A and D keys do...
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Old 2012-06-15, 11:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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We have had a trillion threads like this. They can't do things back to back to back to back just to satisfy our insatiable desire for more PlanetSide 2 news. Theres Marketing, PR and all sorts of things they have to go by.

Just as we have been all along we are happy with the little droplets of info Higby provides us on Twitter and the Forums.

PlanetSide 2 will be in beta eventually and we will all look back on these days with fond memories.
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Old 2012-06-16, 10:23 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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I know what the A and D keys do...
not in PS1, you dont. neither do most people who played it either infact.
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