Should being revived count as a death?

[Eyeklops]

In Planetside 1, if you died, a death registered on the K/D counter even if you were revived. Some other shooters do not count it as a death if you are revived. What do you think? Should being revived count as a death?

I am not talking about removing anything from the killers stats or points, just the player who was killed.

[Exmortius]

i'd have to vote yes. a perk to having friends playing medics they should count revives for medics as well just like k/d. advanced medics were amazing back in ps1 days.

[GuyFawkes]

Very odd question

Maybe they should have a revive /death counter? as medic , you revive someone , if they die again, you get a negative ratio. Would this stop you reviving people you know would only die and give you a bad rep as a medic?

See how it works both ways ?

[Purple]

Originally Posted by GuyFawkes

Very odd question

Maybe they should have a revive /death counter? as medic , you revive someone , if they die again, you get a negative ratio. Would this stop you reviving people you know would only die and give you a bad rep as a medic?

See how it works both ways ?

if they die again. if you revive someone and they never die again then that person stopped playing the game.

[GuyFawkes]

Originally Posted by Purple

if they die again. if you revive someone and they never die again then that person stopped playing the game.

So the guy that did the killing in first place achieved their objective , ie eradicating nc/vs scum

[PhoenixDog]

Originally Posted by GuyFawkes

Very odd question

Maybe they should have a revive /death counter? as medic , you revive someone , if they die again, you get a negative ratio. Would this stop you reviving people you know would only die and give you a bad rep as a medic?

See how it works both ways ?

Swiss cheese has fewer holes than this. Everyone is going to die a lot in this game..over and over and over again.

[xnorb]

One of the very few things i liked in BF3.

Having a rambo medic reviving you 10 times in a row in front of enemies ... grrrrrrr.

But in BF3 it doesn't matter.
a) The team regains the lost ticket
b) If i don't feel like i don't have to accept the revive

It's sort of a bonus for sticking around with your squad mates.


In the end - it doesn't matter.
I would remove KDR tracking completely anyways.

[maddoggg]

Originally Posted by xnorb

One of the very few things i liked in BF3.

Having a rambo medic reviving you 10 times in a row in front of enemies ... grrrrrrr.

But in BF3 it doesn't matter.
a) The team regains the lost ticket
b) If i don't feel like i don't have to accept the revive

It's sort of a bonus for sticking around with your squad mates.


In the end - it doesn't matter.
I would remove KDR tracking completely anyways.

Completely agree.
If revives improve your K/D that would also draw K/D padders to play together in a squad.
But just like you said,i would prefer K/D to be removed completely.

[Goku]

I always wished during the merit kill streaks you could be revived to avoid having to redo. If you are revived you it shouldn't count as one imo.

[Dairian]

Originally Posted by Goku

I always wished during the merit kill streaks you could be revived to avoid having to redo. If you are revived you it shouldn't count as one imo.

When you die you die. And if you are revived you were still dead or you couldn't have be revived. And I believe it should count in your stats. If not people being followed by a medic could have crazy K/D.

So what your saying is if I kill an enemy and they are revived I shouldn't get the kill if they are revived by a medic?

Or are you just saying this for achievements?

[Xyntech]

Originally Posted by Dairian

If not people being followed by a medic could have crazy K/D.

Problem?

K/D ratio is generally an irrelevant stat.

[Dairian]

Originally Posted by Xyntech

Problem?

K/D ratio is generally an irrelevant stat.

That it is but it will be in the game because they are releasing all information. And if it is irrelevant why does it matter if it counts or not?

[Toppopia]

Would it be possible to show Kills/Deaths. Deaths/Revives. And show kill/deaths not counting revives, and kill/death that does count revives, then have total amount of times revived? Is that possible to account for all situations? So someone who cares about K/D can only look at the kill/death that does count reviving as not dying, and such?

[Xyntech]

Originally Posted by Dairian

That it is but it will be in the game because they are releasing all information. And if it is irrelevant why does it matter if it counts or not?

Because there are people who care about it. These people are idiots, but it's hard to change their minds. So it would be better to let them pad their stats through a mechanism that's better for team work than to just leave them alone to camp in a useless spot for hours.

Glorifying K/D front and center in kill screens and stat screens would be bad, because it would encourage obsessing over K/D ratio and make more players think it was an important stat. Encouraging players who already play this way to do things that are better for their empire won't encourage this style of gameplay though, it will only help team work.

It probably won't help it much though. Those players can be pretty stupid.

[Razicator]

Yes. The only time it makes sense to not count as a death would be in a ticket-based system like Battlefield's conquest mode. Otherwise hell, you'll get people who refuse to revive themselves to preserve their K/D ratio and wait for a medic for a long time, taking up server space.