Exp is too fast!

[Hijinks]

I thought the point of the xp changes was to lower the leveling speed.

If that was the goal, it was totally unsuccessful.

http://myplanetside.station.sony.com...&charId=274403

This guy is already level 14! We will have level 20's within the week!

[Hamma]

You can do anything if you play 24/7

either that or he found an XP exploit

[Hijinks]

Lets do a little math.

He has 337666 xp.

400 Kills.

Lets say he is working alone so there is no exp splitting.

Avg 100 xp per kill. Thats 40,000 xp.

337666 - 40000 = 297666

Now he has 38 base caps.

297666 / 38 = ~7833

So he averages 7833 exp PER BASE CAP assuming that he ISN"T in a squad?

I think hamma is on to something.

[Ridah]

I read that people were teaming up with enemy factions and capping bases. Then the enemy dude would resecure and they would move over to the next base.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Exactly. Some PS gamers actually don't have jobs.

edit - Teaming up with enemy factions? Wow... that's one way to do it. :o

[Banditman]

The only people punished by the new experience system are the average players.

The "all day" gamers are STILL going to hit high battle rank very quickly.

The exploiters are STILL going to hit high battle rank very quickly.

You and me are the ones who suffer in this new system. I try to play a couple hours a day. Not a HUGE amount, but a fair amount. I will be MONTHS getting to where I was (twice) in beta.

I'd love for a Dev to explain to me how that is "fair" or "balanced". Unfortunately, they suspended my account for pointing this out.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Originally posted by Banditman
The only people punished by the new experience system are the average players.

The "all day" gamers are STILL going to hit high battle rank very quickly.

The exploiters are STILL going to hit high battle rank very quickly.

You and me are the ones who suffer in this new system. I try to play a couple hours a day. Not a HUGE amount, but a fair amount. I will be MONTHS getting to where I was (twice) in beta.

I'd love for a Dev to explain to me how that is "fair" or "balanced". Unfortunately, they suspended my account for pointing this out.

What??? They suspended your account? Please, do tell this story in as much detail as possible.

[TheEvilBlight]

Odd, he certed in med assault, combat engy, reinforced and reaver?

Reaver explains the kills...

[Banditman]

Glad to.

I was one of the ones on the Planetside forums yesterday who was heavily in favor of fixing the Experience system.

Sporkfire shows up and declares that all the discussion of the Exp system must stop. He says he will lock or delete all threads dealing with it.

I posted a thread asking if he really thought he could delete or lock all the threads dealing with the experience system. He stated that yes he could and would and in fact could do more. He then locked my thread.

Ok, fine. I continued to post in other threads my opinions about the experience system. Those threads were soon locked as well. I had to step away to *gasp* do some actual work @ work. I come back and my account is suspended. No notice as to why. No explanation. No indication of how long.

Now, if they were just suspending my right to post on the forums, fine. However, they also prevented me from even playing. This, I must say, is on the verge of utter gheyness.

[SpacemanSpiff]

Banditman - that is completely preposterous and totally unacceptable. Are you a member of a particular outfit? The only reason I'm asking is that we really need to bring this matter out in the open. I'm going to copy and paste what you just said at my own outfit's forums and even in a particular alliance forum with nearly 1,000 members. I suggest others do the same. The devs had no right to silence anyone. Aren't we the ones that are supporting their paychecks. Is it not their responsibility to keep all of us (the gamers) happy? I'm absolutely shocked.

Watch... the devs are going to see this post and suspend my account now as well. :o

[kerosene31]

Yeah it doesn't surprise me. It just takes someone to play constantly. With college out, lots of students are home with nothing to do. Basically if someone just goes and caps bases all day, they are going to level very fast.

It isn't really a problem that bothers me. This game isn't like other games like DaoC where the high level players dominate. I'm perfectly happy go along at my low level as long as I can compete. Last night I stopped worrying about xp and just went out and had fun. I got into a big battle over a tower which was a lot of fun. Of course, towers are meaningless xp wise, but it was a blast.

[Banditman]

Well, had I been ABLE to play for long enough to actually FORM my outfit, yes.

I am the captain of "The Templars". We've been around since 1997 playing games from NetMech, to Tribes, to MechWarrior 4, to Tribes 2 . . . and perhaps to Planetside.

I'd love to see us go to Planetside, but it's pretty freakin hard to encourage your teammates to pick the game up when the team captain is suspended from play.

[Airlift]

Now, if they were just suspending my right to post on the forums, fine. However, they also prevented me from even playing. This, I must say, is on the verge of utter gheyness.

It is definately shitty for them to jump over forum suspension, but your mistake was in choice of forum. Sony brass isn't going to let negative publicity be generated on their servers and bandwidth whether the devs are still looking for more opinions on it or not. It is irrelevent that you like the game, they will take whatever action they feel is necessary to make it stop. The idea is that a fewer suspended customers is better than a greater number of dissuaded potentials.

They probably aren't reading these threads anymore anyway. Undoubtedly they have a shit ton of feedback on the matter and aren't looking for more. I just hope that they take a step back, see which activities are rewarded in the system, and think about which activities should be rewarded to coax people into playing the fun way(s) again.

[Cyber]

Originally posted by Hijinks
Lets do a little math.

Lets say he is working alone so there is no exp splitting.

Lets assume he's instead working in a squad which is still imo the best way to get XP.

Avg 10 xp per kill. Thats 4,000 xp.

But, lets say the rest of his squad averages at least 350 kills during the same period of time and there are 9 of them.

That's 31,500 more XP.

Now he has 38 base caps.

Lets take a conservative estimate for base XP.

38 * 2000 = 76,000

Now we have 111500 XP still unaccounted for.

He could have done 92 base resecures to make this up at 1,200 a resecure. Of course I don't think the number of base captures is deadly accurate because I don't think my own base capture number takes into account bases I wasn't in for the hack occuring or something because I noticed a gap in the # of bases I had gotten XP for and the # of bases counted as 'captured' by me. I think that as a result makes it doubtful any of these estimates is right. And I also think odds are he IS NOT exploiting.

Why? Cause I'm Battle Rank 10, I haven't been exploiting, I've got 29 base captures and 490 kills. I've been with a squad the entire time I've been playing and we haven't really even been pushing to get bases alot of the time (we easily get draw into tower wars ) but if we had been hitting base after base and leaving anytime resistance became enough to slow us down and instead of staying moved to hit some easier base? I could have been BR14 by now easily enough.

http://myplanetside.station.sony.com...479&worldId=15

[OneManArmy]

no idea what all the posts are about, but I want to level fast, I want to get my certs and move on. I could care less about what level I am, this is a FPS, so honestly the faster I can vary my characters weapon loadout the better...

and I'd just liek to add that unicos sig fucking rocks. Greatest comic ever. period.