looking for groups to join - how soon is too soon?

fayk · 2013-06-19, 02:22 AM

Hello!

I just started playing a couple of days ago. I am a noob and I still have a lot to learn about the game mechanics and such. It was my third time playing yesterday when i realized i could spawn aircrafts and vehicles just like any other players, for example. I am that kind of noob.

So, the question is: if I want to find a group to join (outfit you call them?), how soon is too soon? How soon have you started looking for outfits, and are there outfits that tolerate noobs? I honestly do not want to impose my noobishness on anybody, but playing alone is not as fun (I suspect) as playing on a team.

I am a Vanu medic (I think i will focus on this class alone and will max it), so what i do now is just deploy into a hot spot and heal fallen. But that still does not feel like a teamplay. When is a player qualified to join a detail?

Thanks!

Artimus · 2013-06-19, 05:08 AM

Every outfit is governed by their own sets of rules. My outfit welcomes basically anyone noob or veteran, others may only want veterans or be of a certain age. I would go browse the outfit recruitment sections here and on the offical forums. Read what the require and go from there. (make sure they our on your server and same.faction.)

fayk · 2013-06-19, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by Artimus

Every outfit is governed by their own sets of rules. My outfit welcomes basically anyone noob or veteran, others may only want veterans or be of a certain age. I would go browse the outfit recruitment sections here and on the offical forums. Read what the require and go from there. (make sure they our on your server and same.faction.)

thanks, i will try and do that!

PinetreeRoad · 2013-06-19, 05:23 AM

Just wanted to point out that healing and reviving teammates is fantastic team play. You are helping a lot.

If you press P while in game it will bring up the platoon menu. Most outfits recruit through public platoons, and is a great way to quickly play with a team.

fayk · 2013-06-19, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by PinetreeRoad

Just wanted to point out that healing and reviving teammates is fantastic team play. You are helping a lot.

If you press P while in game it will bring up the platoon menu. Most outfits recruit through public platoons, and is a great way to quickly play with a team.

thanks for the tip, i will try public squads tonight. the problem is i cannot use ingame text chat, and people seem to be unwilling to use proximity voice chat. i had poor fist experience with them, i joined a random platoon at my first game session, but i couldn't communicate with the squad leader - texting seemed a weird and hard way to talk on a battlefield. also, that squad quickly slimmed down to just two of us. but i will give it another try, thanks!

OCNSethy · 2013-06-19, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by fayk

thanks for the tip, i will try public squads tonight. the problem is i cannot use ingame text chat, and people seem to be unwilling to use proximity voice chat. i had poor fist experience with them, i joined a random platoon at my first game session, but i couldn't communicate with the squad leader - texting seemed a weird and hard way to talk on a battlefield. also, that squad quickly slimmed down to just two of us. but i will give it another try, thanks!

Some pubby squads are good, others, not so good. Ive had some good fights with the better squads and friends are fast made with those.

I too cant get the hang on using text in the middle of a fight... much prefer voice. I find the better teams Ive worked with prefer prox / squad chat over text... mostly.

fayk · 2013-06-21, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by OCNSethy

Some pubby squads are good, others, not so good. Ive had some good fights with the better squads and friends are fast made with those.

I too cant get the hang on using text in the middle of a fight... much prefer voice. I find the better teams Ive worked with prefer prox / squad chat over text... mostly.

key mapping is a bit weird as well: default keys for proxy/squad voice chat are too far. i had to remap chat to tab. however, i still prefer skype or ts.

i joined a clan almost the same day i posted this (they had no battlerank criteria), and even played a game with them - but i can't say that was what i expected: we basically just moved to the next facility together, and then everyone spread out and soloed it xD

so, the only link between us was ts3 lol

also, the xp gap was really huge, meaning that i am not as sturdy and don't pack as much heat as them, so i basically just cant keep up with them and survive their aggressive play style.

Canaris · 2013-06-21, 04:07 AM

What server are you playing on Fayk? realistically any time is a good time to join an outfit, there will be outfits out there that enjoy taking on new players to help teach them all the ins and outs of gameplay, you get better so they get better. Also everyone loves medics... except those on the opposing sides heh

fayk · 2013-06-21, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by Canaris

What server are you playing on Fayk? realistically any time is a good time to join an outfit, there will be outfits out there that enjoy taking on new players to help teach them all the ins and outs of gameplay, you get better so they get better. Also everyone loves medics... except those on the opposing sides heh

i play on woodman, i am one of those VS newbies who got into the game after frankieonpcin1080p advertised it in his vids on youtube lol

so far i continue playing alone or with a friend from another game, and it is still fun. i do not see much organized action anyway, i guess soloing it is the way most people go

i understand you are TR

your people are heavy hitters

Canaris · 2013-06-21, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by fayk

i play on woodman, i am one of those VS newbies who got into the game after frankieonpcin1080p advertised it in his vids on youtube lol

so far i continue playing alone or with a friend from another game, and it is still fun. i do not see much organized action anyway, i guess soloing it is the way most people go

i understand you are TR

your people are heavy hitters

We do love our Dakka

Here's a link to Woodmans outfit recruiting page on the SOE boards, you can shop around the VS crews and might find one that suits your play style

https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/...woodman-eu.57/

I'm a Millerite myself so I don't have personal knowlege of the Woodies outfits, hope it helps and you find what you're looking for

fayk · 2013-06-21, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by Canaris

We do love our Dakka

Here's a link to Woodmans outfit recruiting page on the SOE boards, you can shop around the VS crews and might find one that suits your play style

https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/...woodman-eu.57/

I'm a Millerite myself so I don't have personal knowlege of the Woodies outfits, hope it helps and you find what you're looking for

thanks

i was considering moving to Miller before i get to a higher battlerank on my first character. woodman has distinct VS overpopulation, sometimes we just zerg rush almost entire map and it's not as fun as struggling and prevailing against odds

so maybe you will get to kill me one of these days lol

diLLa · 2013-06-25, 11:52 AM

Miller is also known for having more organised outfits. It's a harder server to play on probably, but if you are looking for organised play, I'm sure Miller is the best server in Europe to go.

fayk · 2013-06-26, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by diLLa

Miller is also known for having more organised outfits. It's a harder server to play on probably, but if you are looking for organised play, I'm sure Miller is the best server in Europe to go.

i wish i knew that before i made Woodman character... now i got him to BR20 and gonna feel sorry about the time i invested into the perks..

on Woodman, TR seem to be the most organized faction. when we fight against them, i can't help feeling i'm on the losing side no matter what the numbers are. looks like we're being reaped for certs. i thought about joining TR on Woodman, but all my perks are vanu medic only...

also, Woodman looks deserted lately. from what i understand, Miller is more popped

CapitanCrab · 2013-06-26, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by fayk

also, Woodman looks deserted lately. from what i understand, Miller is more popped

Do not make a mistake thinking that its a fun playing vs TR zerg on Miller. Its not like playing against the odds. Its more like: you spawn somewhere and there are 10 enemy tanks camping exits. Or a common situation when u fighting 80% TR with ur 20% on Biolab. Just pointless.
Find a more balanced server or just do not leave Woodman - its one of the best anyways.

fayk · 2013-06-26, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by CapitanCrab

Do not make a mistake thinking that its a fun playing vs TR zerg on Miller. Its not like playing against the odds. Its more like: you spawn somewhere and there are 10 enemy tanks camping exits. Or a common situation when u fighting 80% TR with ur 20% on Biolab. Just pointless.
Find a more balanced server or just do not leave Woodman - its one of the best anyways.

thanks for heads-up! even with TR being under-popped we get our asses served, i don't even want to think about TR overpop scenario!

i like the idea of staying on woodman. the problem is - not enough organization on VS part. there are normally 6-7 squads (like, 2 squads per continent) on average, and when i join those - they don't talk and the very reason they exist eludes me (like, green dots are just scattered accross the map, people join and leave constantly)

with this lack of organized action, i have little incentive to invest certs into aircrafts or vehicles simply because you cant fight the war alone. i'd love to hoard and dump all my points into a magrider or liberator, but i need good team to operate them. same goes for sunderer - i need gunners and i need tanks and harassers to cover my ass. none of those are available

another thing that bugs me - very few people play lately, and the server looks underpopulated in general. i joined an outfit, and on a good night it is 6 people squad tops! and normally we just end up running in groups of 2 or 3, there's no actual team (like, a driver engy, a gunner engy, medics, assaulters, etc., all traveling in one group - nothing of that kind, none)