Prosieben is listening to the European Community

somers · 2012-02-22, 07:04 PM

As I see it now, we are still wondering exactly what prosieben is doing and whether or not SOE is just trying to make more money without thinking of their fans... John Smedley is probably organizing a meeting with Prosieben now and discussing the current situation. NO NEED TO DO ANYTHING STUPID YET!!! (deleting your SOE account...) JUST WAIT FOR MORE INFO!!!!

DayOne · 2012-02-22, 07:07 PM

I just hope this means that SOE and Pro7 have gone "Oh shit" at the community's feedback and are going to do something about it.

So long as they lift the region lock and it doesn't affect beta access due to location then I can deal with it.

somers · 2012-02-22, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by DayOne

I just hope this means that SOE and Pro7 have gone "Oh shit" at the community's feedback and are going to do something about it.

Me too, me too...

Figment · 2012-02-22, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by DayOne

I just hope this means that SOE and Pro7 have gone "Oh shit" at the community's feedback and are going to do something about it.

So long as they lift the region lock and it doesn't affect beta access due to location then I can deal with it.

AND if they promise not to interfere with the content we get from SOE patches beyond localisation (text).

I don't trust a company that made a f2p game into a pay to win game before if there are no contractual bonds that prevent them from doing so again.

somers · 2012-02-22, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Figment

AND if they promise not to interfere with the content we get from SOE patches beyond localisation (text).

I don't trust a company that made a f2p game into a pay to win game before if there are no contractual bonds that prevent them from doing so again.

I get what you are saying in your first fragment and agree, but can you reword the second? I don't understand...

DayOne · 2012-02-22, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by somers

I get what you are saying in your first fragment and agree, but can you reword the second? I don't understand...

He means that they made games so that you have to pay money to get the best items and you can't do shit if you try to play fully for free.

somers · 2012-02-22, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by DayOne

He means that they made games so that you have to pay money to get the best items and you can't do shit if you try to play fully for free.

Ah ok, so basically most "F2P" games. Except Higby already stated all buy-able stuff will only be for aesthetics.

Gandhi · 2012-02-22, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by DayOne

I just hope this means that SOE and Pro7 have gone "Oh shit" at the community's feedback and are going to do something about it.

Yeah, because nobody at SOE could have predicted that the community would respond negatively to this little announcement.

Wakken · 2012-02-22, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by DayOne

I just hope this means that SOE and Pro7 have gone "Oh shit" at the community's feedback and are going to do something about it.

So long as they lift the region lock and it doesn't affect beta access due to location then I can deal with it.

I hope the same. And hopefully SOE will take EU too... I dont want no sucky community service! I've had enough of that bs

Sabrak · 2012-02-22, 07:50 PM

Dude, you can't SERIOUSLY believe that because John Smedley said they'll talk to Pro7, that their plans will change and that everything will be alright.
Come on... It's Smed we're talking about!

The deal is concluded, the terms of their partnership are most probably sealed, it's not because Smed says "we're listening" that they will actually act.

Telling people you're listening to their complains is the lesson 1 in "Handling a crisis for Dummies".
Lesson 2 is about convincingly telling people you're fixing everything when you're not even planning on acting.

somers · 2012-02-22, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Sabrak

Dude, you can't SERIOUSLY believe that because John Smedley said they'll talk to Pro7, that their plans will change and that everything will be alright.
Come on... It's Smed we're talking about!

The deal is concluded, the terms of their partnership are most probably sealed, it's not because Smed says "we're listening" that they will actually act.

Telling people you're listening to their complains is the lesson 1 in "Handling a crisis for Dummies".
Lesson 2 is about convincingly telling people you're fixing everything when you're not even planning on acting.

Yeah that's nice and all but can you be any more of a pessimist? Be constructive not destructive... There is a possibility they will at least revise the current plans.

Sabrak · 2012-02-22, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by somers

Yeah that's nice and all but can you be any more of a pessimist? Be constructive not destructive... There is a possibility they will at least revise the current plans.

I think you're actually dreaming, man.

Being optimistic is a good thing.
Not understanding that a deal is a deal, and that both sides won't pass on the money they are expecting to get, that's living in CareBears-Land.

Also, it's not like if it was the first time SOE and Smed messed up with their player base.
And you know what? They never gave a damn shit.

somers · 2012-02-22, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Sabrak

I think you're actually dreaming, man.

Being optimistic is a good thing.
Not understanding that a deal is a deal, and that both sides won't pass on the money they are expecting to get, that's living in CareBears-Land.

Also, it's not like if it was the first time SOE and Smed messed up with their player base.
And you know what? They never gave a damn shit.

Yes, but the community gives a shit and if they act out, it will cost Smedley money. Then you bet your ass he will listen to us.

Dart · 2012-02-22, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by somers

Yeah that's nice and all but can you be any more of a pessimist? Be constructive not destructive... There is a possibility they will at least revise the current plans.

Regarding Smed's response I'm afraid I think Sabrak has the truth of it. None of us know the details of the agreement which is in place but I highly doubt anyone is going to revise anything until they've at least given it a try. Let me put it this way (and posse don't think I'm being pessimistic, you genuinely will not find a more ardent fan of ps than me) but do you really think either pro7 or soe didn't expect this reaction? They knew they were going to get out and they're just hoping it'll die down soon enough that it doesn't disrupt anthony they have planned. Anthony they tell us right now must be taken with a table spoonful of salt!

somers · 2012-02-22, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Dart

Regarding Smed's response I'm afraid I think Sabrak has the truth of it. None of us know the details of the agreement which is in place but I highly doubt anyone is going to revise anything until they've at least given it a try. Let me put it this way (and posse don't think I'm being pessimistic, you genuinely will not find a more ardent fan of ps than me) but do you really think either pro7 or soe didn't expect this reaction? They knew they were going to get out and they're just hoping it'll die down soon enough that it doesn't disrupt anthony they have planned. Anthony they tell us right now must be taken with a table spoonful of salt!

I suppose you are right then... but we should seriously wait before judging even based on past experiences with Smedley and SOE.