AV weapons

MYcrimsonTEARS · 2003-12-21, 11:33 AM

man i hate to fight vechs witht he lancer... i can hit them and all but it just seems like im doing nothing but crach paint... how goes the other empiers AV weapons

i wish they would make a new catagory call "anti-max" and put all the AV weapons we have now in there and make brand new AV weapons that are not that avective at fighting max... just a thought.

Chaaos · 2003-12-21, 11:40 AM

They do have an anit-max. It's the almighty one-shot-kill vs max decimator.

Tavin · 2003-12-21, 12:19 PM

Decimator-- /shudder

I took 5 of those the other night... my poor Comet MAX!

Neon Apocalypse · 2003-12-21, 12:44 PM

comets are good

Lithpope · 2003-12-21, 01:55 PM

Can't speak for other empire AV weapons, not used them enough but, the much maligned Striker is a sweet weapon IMO. Sat on a base wall the other night with about 5 other striker users and we just flat owned anything that got even near the base (Mags, Threshers, Reavers, Skeeters, MAX's, etc.). Indoors, ya, the Deci is a better choice, in the field, a Striker owns a Deci. I cannot think a better weapon for a grunt to be packing while in the field. I would venture to say 30% of my kills are Striker kills. With the BP the TTK is down a bit but a pack of grunts packing Strikers in the field is something to be feared. I really wish more TR would cert this weapon.

It is also an excellent weapon for the AMS/ANT Driver to carry. That pesky Skeeter bugging you? Stop, jump out paint his ass and drop him out of the sky. It works well for bailingpilots too. I sucked at flying but, wound up winning a lot of my 1-1 engagments because I could bail and drop that wounded enemy with my striker.

Duffman · 2003-12-21, 02:24 PM

yea AV weapons are suppose o be used in groups and thats why they nerfed the striker because one person could own any vehicle.

bryan25 · 2003-12-21, 03:14 PM

Doesnt it take 2 shots from a decimator? Each missle is 400 damage and the max has only 800 armor so it takes 2 shots.

Ignore Me · 2003-12-21, 03:21 PM

Decimator is two shots to kill a MAX.

ghost

ViperGTS · 2003-12-21, 03:24 PM

400 damage? So that would take me out in rexo in one shot?

kerosene31 · 2003-12-22, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Duffman

yea AV weapons are suppose o be used in groups and thats why they nerfed the striker because one person could own any vehicle.

I agree. One infantry with an AV weapon should not be able to go one on one with a tank. If that is possible, then what is the purpose of a tank exactly? It is rare to go solo vs one AV carrier. Going up against the TR and NC I see tons of Phoenixs and Strikers.

I don't see what the problem with tanks in PS is. They are big, have lots of armor, and have a lot of firepower. AV weapons should not be balanced to where they can take on a tank one on one. That is what other tanks, reavers, and groups of infantry are for.

Madcow · 2003-12-22, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Duffman

yea AV weapons are suppose o be used in groups and thats why they nerfed the striker because one person could own any vehicle.

They nerfed the Striker because it was too powerful against MAXs and air. It was never too powerful against vehicles, and now it's certainly not worth using against vehicles. One person could not own any vehicle, unless the driver and gunner were both mildly retarded. I unloaded 12 Strikers (pre-patch) into a Magrider and didn't kill it, and was out of missiles. Do you have any idea how long it takes to connect with 12 Strikers? If the gunner hadn't been clueless they would have wiped me out long before I fired half of those.

I think the main problem right now is that the armor on MAXs is classified exactly the same as the armor on vehicles. If something is AV, it's automatically good against MAXs. The fact that the MAXs have a fraction of the armor in vehicles automatically makes this a bad deal for them.

And to whoever made the statement about MAXs killing people in 2 shots (therefore making the deci a fair weapon) please point me to which MAX you're referring to. Only the Scattercannon comes close, and it's still more than 2 shots. The VS has no MAX that can kill a softie in less than a dozen or so shots, the TR has the Pounder and I'm not sure how many 'nades it would take but it's more than 2, the NC has the Scatter which is the most effective 1 on 1 w/ infantry. So which MAX was it again (because it sure sounded like you thought most MAXs could do it)?