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Old 2012-02-24, 09:43 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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ProSieben Responds to Community Concerns


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Old 2012-02-24, 09:45 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Great news, it's good to see they aren't completely blind to what the community wants
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Old 2012-02-24, 10:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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That's really good to hear. Hopefully they are able to work something out that still keeps regional servers yet gives players free roam to go to whatever server they want.
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Old 2012-02-24, 10:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Originally Posted by dpranker View Post
Great news, it's good to see they aren't completely blind to what the community wants
The problem is that they're completely blind to what the community doesn't want.

The community doesn't want ProSieben. I'm glad that we'll get to play together again, but I'm not sure if two steps back, one step forward is something to be commended? For any other company that wouldn't count as progress, but for SOE? I'm not really sure...

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Old 2012-02-24, 10:24 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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It's a case of "vote with your dollar". Not a case of "this should have been a fucking abortion the moment it was conceived". It should have been killed with fire from Moment Zero.

Originally Posted by Vancha View Post
The problem is that they're completely blind to what the community doesn't want.

The community doesn't want ProSieben. I'm glad that we'll get to play together again, but I'm not sure if two steps back, one step forward is something to be commended? For any other company that wouldn't count as progress, but for SOE? I'm not really sure...
I agree. It's good news for us, but the fact that they were oblivious to the stupidity of the idea from the get-go is troublesome. I can understand having a distributor or shipper in another country. What I don't understand is why force separation?
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Old 2012-02-24, 10:33 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
It's a case of "vote with your dollar". Not a case of "this should have been a fucking abortion the moment it was conceived". It should have been killed with fire from Moment Zero.


I agree. It's good news for us, but the fact that they were oblivious to the stupidity of the idea from the get-go is troublesome. I can understand having a distributor or shipper in another country. What I don't understand is why force separation?
It probably becuase both companies have only done this kind of thing before with the Asian market where there is little or no community interaction between the East and West. They must of thought (stupidly) that it would be fine to do the same in the west.
I mean like theres totally a massive ocean between America and Europe MIRITE?
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Old 2012-02-24, 02:58 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Originally Posted by Vancha View Post
The problem is that they're completely blind to what the community doesn't want.

The community doesn't want ProSieben. I'm glad that we'll get to play together again, but I'm not sure if two steps back, one step forward is something to be commended? For any other company that wouldn't count as progress, but for SOE? I'm not really sure...
Unfortunately, SOE doesn't really exist in Europe, which is why Planetside was distributed by Ubisoft over here. It's the same issue which resulted in The9 handling WoW for Blizzard in Asian territories. These companies are not as global as we would like them to be.

SOE are not in the position to become a proper operating entity in Europe, especially after the downsizing announcements last year.

In order to get their games to locations outside of the US, and to do so in a way that they don't hemorrhage money, they need to turn to companies that specialise in data storage and network integration. Customer Service comes into it as well.

HOWEVER, to sign a deal, or discuss a deal and not fight tooth and nail to prevent regional segregation, to not think that it was an important enough issue to cancel that deal and go with someone else? That's an issue I have.

The future of MMOs is meant to be grander. Get as many players playing together as possible. It's the whole point of MMOs. Social gaming. This agreement, regardless of it being overturned or not, is not something ANY games publisher should accept from their partners. Sony, EA, Square-Enix, Activition, none of these companies should ever have their entire product listing announced as part of such a giant backwards step.

The agreement implies that the MMO industry is in a regression, it's not. This honestly feels like a bunch of old guys in a directors meeting just accepting what is infront of them without a second thought. Dismissive. The individuals with SOE, or SCE who honestly thought that this was not an issue needs to have all these comments tatoo'd on the insides of their eyelids. It's as if no one consulted anyone in a marketing position.

Bad for the Players.
Bad for SOE.
Bad for the MMO industry.

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Old 2012-02-24, 05:52 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Originally Posted by Vancha View Post
The problem is that they're completely blind to what the community doesn't want.

The community doesn't want ProSieben.
THIS !!

I bet they wont take a step back. Money is allready payed..so its over.

I wonder if Planetside 2 will be aviable over Steam then ? Its only the biggest digital platform.

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Old 2012-02-24, 10:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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We shall see. Of course, seeing Alaplaya actually doing something right is as often as SoE recently - not high. They stepped on a hornet's nest. Lets see how many times they will get stung.
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Old 2012-02-24, 10:00 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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I have a feeling this is more casued by the Everquest population, but hopefully it will make them change their plans.
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Old 2012-02-24, 01:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Originally Posted by Cobalt View Post
I have a feeling this is more casued by the Everquest population, but hopefully it will make them change their plans.
Well yeah, the EQ community is orders of magnitude larger than the PS community ever was.
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Old 2012-02-24, 01:32 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Well yeah, the EQ community is orders of magnitude larger than the PS community ever was.
and soe did everything to keep it that way. planet...what?
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Old 2012-02-24, 01:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Originally Posted by MartinasBuddy View Post
and soe did everything to keep it that way. planet...what?
Oh man, that made me laugh. Thank you, seriously I needed to go to sleep on something light hearted.
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Old 2012-02-24, 10:01 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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I'm very impressed. Apparently they really sat up and took notice.

If they actually change something this big because we asked for it, i'll never say a bad word about SoE again.

A massive Thank You to everyone involved, especially RadarX for being so active with us through this, along with Higby.

Its heartening to see you guys putting the time in to reassure us.

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Old 2012-02-24, 10:02 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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This is very encouraging. All I can say is thanks for listening PSS1 and SOE.
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