Am I blind or is NC overpowered.

MrRipper · 2013-04-01, 04:05 AM

Not everything about the new conglomerate is overpowered but I have five things to say to you: Hacksaw, Scattermax, Gauss weapons, Air Hammer, and phoenix sniper rifles. If i hadnt certed my TR character i would play nc. It feels like TR is hardmode am I alone here or could someone please help alleviate my fears?

phungus · 2013-04-01, 04:07 AM

Not really. Pheonix is no more OP then the striker at this point. Annoying how it one shots ESFs with relative ease, but it's no worse then the anhilator reborn the TR have. Their MAXes are OP, but they are supposedly being fixed. Vanu has the best infantry weapons IMO, but it's more of a playstyle thing really; if your average player could choose between the default LMGs and Carbines it'd be a pretty even split.

MrRipper · 2013-04-01, 04:18 AM

Striker takes 7 shots to kill an ESF so not quite one clip although quite powerful. The phoenix insta gibs mosquitos if they're piloted by n00bs.

MrRipper · 2013-04-01, 04:25 AM

Thing is I would die to be able to use a gauss saw equivelant for TR, its the default NC weapon and its more amazing than any gun in the game. I guess i dont really have a problem with it, i just wish i could change factions which will never happen.

JesNC · 2013-04-01, 04:41 AM

Even a noob can casually cruise away from a Phoenix missile, they're that slow.

The Gauss Saw is just the bastard child of a TMG-50 and a BR, and is ugly as both together.

The MAXes are being adjusted as we speak.

Varsam · 2013-04-01, 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by MrRipper

Thing is I would die to be able to use a gauss saw equivelant for TR, its the default NC weapon and its more amazing than any gun in the game. I guess i dont really have a problem with it, i just wish i could change factions which will never happen.

It's subpar at close range, and should never have been a starting weapon. The GD-22S or Anchor would've been a better fit as a general purpose LMG. Likewise, I feel like the Orion and Pulsar LSW should've switched places.

Originally Posted by Artimus

NC is the most underpowered and MAXs are not even over powered.

I hope you're joking.

Originally Posted by Artimus

hacksaw? Airhammer? TR have way better equivlents.

No, they really don't.

Artimus · 2013-04-01, 04:51 AM

Coming from an NC player.... NC is the most underpowered and MAXs are not even over powered. Okay maybe the falcon AV is a little op against infantry but hacksaw? Airhammer? TR have way better equivlents. Remember the Reaver and liberator have the biggest disadvantage when dogfighting just cuz someone is SKILLED enough doesnt make it op. As far as guass weapons go if you don't cert some accuracy in them the spread is ridicoulous, after a while they may become op in the RIGHT HANDS. I cant really say much on sniping except I noticed the bullet drop is pretty steep for NC you have to aim a decent way above the head to land a head shot. Phoenix has become balanced for the most part even though you can insta kill aircraft its next to impossible to take one out unless your careless, it's actually somewhat overpowered against infantry though.

MrRipper · 2013-04-01, 04:54 AM

The gauss saw is undoubtedly better than the tmg50 currently. Higby says They go by data and not opinions which means nothing since new conglomerate attracts the dumbest players with their freedom f*** yea motto. Not that all nc are dumb but they do have more n00bs than the other factions I feel. The striker can't hit infantry or base turrets though.

Varsam · 2013-04-01, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by MrRipper

The gauss saw is undoubtedly better than the tmg50 currently. Higby says They go by data and not opinions which means nothing since new conglomerate attracts the dumbest players with their freedom f*** yea motto.

Most veteran players agree that the TMG-50 is the TR's best all rounder, but I don't have any experience with it myself so I can't say.

Originally Posted by MrRipper

Not that all nc are dumb but they do have more n00bs than the other factions I feel. The striker can't hit infantry or base turrets though.

It's because they're essentially space America. Also, I've seen the striker hit turrets.

Whiteagle · 2013-04-01, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Varsam

Also, I've seen the striker hit turrets.

They can HIT them, but you need to be firing from above in order to actually do damage...

Originally Posted by Artimus

What makes the NC max op? The fact that they are deadly at extreme close range like there supose to be? I'll admit the falcon needs a nerf for infantry but thats about it. We use shotguns how do you justify it being op when were worthless everywere else. If anything the other MAXs need a buff.

Well here is the thing...

The TR equivalent, those chainguns?
They are also listed as short range as well, have little to no effect outside of 30m, and have atrocious Time to Kill WITHIN that range even for SOFT targets...
Yes, techicically there is a space from 10 to 30m where the TR Duel ChainMAX will be able to damage an NC ScatterMAX without fear of retaliation, but good luck in KEEPING a charging ScatMAX within that sweetspot long enough to kill it.

Originally Posted by Sledgecrushr

You know you have to get two falcon rounds to hit dead on for the falcon to take out an infantry with full health. The falcon is kinda hard to kill infantry with. I mean really dude.

You ever tried to hit ANYTHING with a Pounder?

Dragonskin · 2013-04-01, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Whiteagle

The TR equivalent, those chainguns?
They are also listed as short range as well, have little to no effect outside of 30m, and have atrocious Time to Kill WITHIN that range even for SOFT targets...
Yes, techicically there is a space from 10 to 30m where the TR Duel ChainMAX will be able to damage an NC ScatterMAX without fear of retaliation, but good luck in KEEPING a charging ScatMAX within that sweetspot long enough to kill it.

Don't forget there is a bug on the Mercies that makes them randomly go to crap. The COF gets so bad you can't even hit infantry reliably with 10-20m when that happens.

Whiteagle · 2013-04-01, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonskin

Don't forget there is a bug on the Mercies that makes them randomly go to crap. The COF gets so bad you can't even hit infantry reliably with 10-20m when that happens.

...I didn't even know that...

Fuck, most everyone in my Outfit runs Duel Mercy...

JesNC · 2013-04-01, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by MrRipper

The gauss saw is undoubtedly better than the tmg50 currently. Higby says They go by data and not opinions which means nothing since new conglomerate attracts the dumbest players with their freedom f*** yea motto. Not that all nc are dumb but they do have more n00bs than the other factions I feel. The striker can't hit infantry or base turrets though.

The SAW isn't better than the TMG, it's different, fun and very effective at range while being challenging to control. Overall, they're even IMO.

So in your opinion NC are OP, dumb sh*ts and the worst players of all the factions? I lol'd. Ad hominems are a great way to support your arguments...

Everything in this thread's OP is a bad rehearsal of all the whine threads on official boards.

Artimus · 2013-04-01, 05:15 AM

What makes the NC max op? The fact that they are deadly at extreme close range like there supose to be? I'll admit the falcon needs a nerf for infantry but thats about it. We use shotguns how do you justify it being op when were worthless everywere else. If anything the other MAXs need a buff.

Sledgecrushr · 2013-04-01, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by Artimus

I'll admit the falcon needs a nerf for infantry but thats about it.

You know you have to get two falcon rounds to hit dead on for the falcon to take out an infantry with full health. The falcon is kinda hard to kill infantry with. I mean really dude.