PS2 #3 of PCGamer's Top 25 Greatest Shooters of All Time

[Crator]

Read this the other day in my monthly mag and just found this article posted online: http://overpower3d.com/Articles/pcga...s-of-all-time/

The latest issue of PCGamer has been released and it features their top 25 shooters of all time. Keep in mind this list is made up exclusively of PC games.

1. Team Fortress 2
2. Half-Life 2
3. PlanetSide 2
4. Quake III
5. Borderlands 2
6. S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat
7. Doom
8. Tribes: Ascend
9. Battlefield 1942
10. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
11. Left 4 Dead 2
12. Battlefield 3
13. Counter-Strike
14. Far Cry 3
15. Natural Selection 2
16. Arma 2: Combined Operations
17. F.E.A.R.
18. Max Payne 3
19. MechWarrior Online
20. Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
21. BioShock
22. Unreal Tournament
23. SWAT 4
24. Wolfenstein
25. No One Lives Forever

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Planetside 1, pre-BFR (CoreCombat) should replace PS2 on this list.

[Dragonskin]

Doom is too high on the list if Wolfenstien is at the bottom. Borderlands 2 is in top 5 shooters of all time... Why? It was a good game, but really number 5? Swat 4 is on the list, but not Rainbow Six or any Tom Clancy game? I'm confused.

Looks like a list of games dropped in random numbers to me.

[drsomewhere]

Well that definitely is a thing.

[Sunrock]

Well any list that put Team Fortress 2 on it most be crap. Who the fuck even consider it a FPS game?! You play it in 3rd person view and it sucks hard FFS. Those at PC gamer have sucky taste in game I tell you.

[Shogun]

that´s more like a milestone list. but then planetside 1 would deserve at lease the third place, followed by ps2.

because ps1 was more of a vision than ps2 currently is. and ps2 does nothing, ps1 already did 10 years ago. just some more players and up to date graphics. the true innovation was already done with planetside 1

[Baptist]

PS1 wasn't a FPS, wasn't it more third person?

[Shogun]

Originally Posted by Baptist

PS1 wasn't a FPS, wasn't it more Third person?

no, it was fps. it only featured a 3rd p view for all units option like ps2 has just for vehicles.

[ChipMHazard]

Originally Posted by Baptist

PS1 wasn't a FPS, wasn't it more third person?

Exactly, well don't know if they have to be FPS's to be on the list (Even if they all are). PS1 was a great game, but it wasn't a good shooter. The shooter mechanics were always rather poor, imo.
PS1 is most certainly a better RPG and MMO than PS2, imo.

[bpostal]

How is Half Life 2 on the list but Half Life isn't?! That's the real tragedy here.

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Originally Posted by bpostal

How is Half Life 2 on the list but Half Life isn't?! That's the real tragedy here.

Goldeneye Mod for Half-Life 1, as well as TF Classic, will always be in my top 10 list.

[Assist]

Originally Posted by bpostal

How is Half Life 2 on the list but Half Life isn't?! That's the real tragedy here.

More importantly why is Quake 2 not above Quake 3?
Giant fail of a list. PS2 would break my top 10 as a *shooter*. But other than that this list is really off base IMO.

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Originally Posted by Shogun

that´s more like a milestone list. but then planetside 1 would deserve at lease the third place, followed by ps2.

because ps1 was more of a vision than ps2 currently is. and ps2 does nothing, ps1 already did 10 years ago. just some more players and up to date graphics. the true innovation was already done with planetside 1

Planetside 1 was quite revolutionary for its time; I just feel that server hardware/netcode + average client PC's just weren't fully ready for a game of that magnitude in 2003. Most people did not have broadband at that time.

Not to mention, PS1 was not advertised very well at all from what I remember.

[AThreatToYou]

IMO ... PS2 is technically and financially superior to PlanetSide 1. It deserves a high spot on the list.

PS1 might have been a real innovation, but guys, as much as I love the game, it's fucking old. It had some really shitty mechanics that were doled over with an excellent purpose to the game and other mechanics which were added later. Now, PS2 has its problems, but PS1 doesn't belong on the list mostly because it was ahead of its time in all the wrong ways.

It's a list that keeps in mind that the games industry has tried hard to make more entertaining games over the years. Some old games you can go back to and play today as if it was an excellent and fun experience if you can tolerate the old graphics. Unless you are already a fan of it, PS1 is not one of those games.

hey guys
i was really just trying to say this all along
you got me right?

Originally Posted by ChipMHazard

Exactly, well don't know if they have to be FPS's to be on the list (Even if they all are). PS1 was a great game, but it wasn't a good shooter. The shooter mechanics were always rather poor, imo.

Of course, MW:O is on that list.
EXTREME DISAPPROVAL
GGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

You play it in 3rd person view and it sucks hard FFS.

wat

Early TF2 was a good team-based shooter. It was superbly balanced and fun. Now it's just hat fortress.

[Shogun]

Originally Posted by AThreatToYou

PS1 might have been a real innovation, but guys, as much as I love the game, it's fucking old.

then why is doom on the list?
does it have better gunplay or graphics than any game below on the list?