Planetside 2 - ESport?

[Xaine]

We've glazed over this before a few times, and Mr Higby as large Esports fan has even contributed very actively to our discussions on this. I don't think its ever had its own thread however.

What about adding an Esport component to Planetside 2. Something akin to clan matches in other games. Outfit vs Outfit with a ranked ladder for bragging rights, competitive community building smack talking fun.

Now, obviously the biggest issue with this is it retracting from the main game. So maybe make one day a month, or every two weeks a clan match day. Ranking to be done in which ever way is assumed as best by the Devs. A ladder or a rating like WoW Arena. Whatever.

This game, i think, has a massive amount of potential to be a great Esport. 50 vs 50 with all the vehicles included. The amount of teamwork and co-ordination would be amazing, and would be a brilliant thing to watch.

There is no game that has this sort of diversity with unit types, and no game that can support battles this large, and so no game that really has an upper ceiling for teamwork and coordination as high as this one, just because of the amount of people there would be.

If anyone can reply, and tell me a battle of 50v50, or 100v100 with AirCav, Tanks, Galaxy Drops, people playing support, medic, infiltrators, maxes... All working together wouldn't be the most insane thing to watch, then i think you're crazy. Or lying.

Obviously this would be a post launch thing, but i think it would really bring something new to the E-sports scene that hasn't been seen before at all.

[Bags]

This game is an MMOFPS, not an arena game.

[Kurtz]

go play a competitive shooter, theres hundreds. this is the only MMOFPS.

[Kaw]

I'm sure plenty of people and outfits will be streaming their play on sites like twitch and own3d. In the interview posted today, Higby was talking about trying to make it possible to stream straight from the client. As far as esports are concerned, I don't see how PS2 tournaments would ever be remotely feasible.

[SKYeXile]

This is the 6th time we have made this thread, and we have become very efficient at it.


i liked outfit wars, but yea it shouldn't be apart of the the regular game, jsut held every so often. also it should be a platoon of 30, thats well over the amount of people thats generally considered a competitive number for PvP.

[Rumblepit]

lol well when a game is picked up by esl or is esl worthy they host the matches,not soe, they make the rules, not soe, they review and fraps all matches before deciding a winner, not soe. if you want to be apart of a esl team you make one and contact esl, not soe.


this being said none of you have any control over this........
if its as good as it should be , it will be picked up, it will be huge, there will be events, competitions and prizes. soe and all the crying in the world cant stop this!

[Xaine]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

This is the 6th time we have made this thread, and we have become very efficient at it.


i liked outfit wars, but yea it shouldn't be apart of the the regular game, jsut held every so often. also it should be a platoon of 30, thats well over the amount of people thats generally considered a competitive number for PvP.

Really? Searching 'Esport' came up with nothing. So i apologise.

I get the feeling everyone is so terrified of their game turning into CoD or BF3 that they never want to try anything new, or look outside the box, and this is a theme in almost every thread.

I played PS1 since 2003 as well, its one of the best games i've played and one of my favourites, but people need to unstand we're not getting Planetside 1.5.

Times have moved on. People want to play games competitively, the Esports scene is growing and this game has a massive chance to really mix it up.

I don't want this game to become 100% Esport focused. But they don't need to change anything. The balance is already there from the main game. We need an instanced map with a base in it. Thats it.

[Rumblepit]

Originally Posted by Xaine

Really? Searching 'Esport' came up with nothing. So i apologise.

I get the feeling everyone is so terrified of their game turning into CoD or BF3 that they never want to try anything new, or look outside the box, and this is a theme in almost every thread.

I played PS1 since 2003 as well, its one of the best games i've played and one of my favourites, but people need to unstand we're not getting Planetside 1.5.

Times have moved on. People want to play games competitively, the Esports scene is growing and this game has a massive chance to really mix it up.

I don't want this game to become 100% Esport focused. But they don't need to change anything. The balance is already there from the main game. We need an instanced map with a base in it. Thats it.

if it is picked up by a esl then you can add another 1/2 mill to your game pop.
competitive gaming is huge right now. why not be on a uber team and get paid to own people all day.turn on your tv and see your boys at a major tournament owning people.people dont want this to happen????? thats like sayin i hate money, i hate the sky, i hate apples, i hate my wife,,,, wait bad example.... but you get where im comin from.

[Kaw]

Originally Posted by Rumblepit

if it is picked up by a esl then you can add another 1/2 mill to your game pop.
competitive gaming is huge right now. why not be on a uber team and get paid to own people all day.turn on your tv and see your boys at a major tournament owning people.people dont want this to happen????? thats like sayin i hate money, i hate the sky, i hate apples, i hate my wife,,,, wait bad example.... but you get where im comin from.

The problem is that esports organizations in other games are struggling to actually make money when the teams have five people. Completely ignoring whether or not PS2 would be a good spectator sport, which I also don't agree is true, it simply wont be feasible for any tournament organizer to try to split the pie between teams of fifty.

Edit: Thank you Hamma.

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Xaine

Really? Searching 'Esport' came up with nothing. So i apologise.

I get the feeling everyone is so terrified of their game turning into CoD or BF3 that they never want to try anything new, or look outside the box, and this is a theme in almost every thread.

I played PS1 since 2003 as well, its one of the best games i've played and one of my favourites, but people need to unstand we're not getting Planetside 1.5.

Times have moved on. People want to play games competitively, the Esports scene is growing and this game has a massive chance to really mix it up.

I don't want this game to become 100% Esport focused. But they don't need to change anything. The balance is already there from the main game. We need an instanced map with a base in it. Thats it.

No i fully agree, but i wouldnt want to see it as a special thing like you say with rating or clan wars in WOT. there should be a map or acouple for it for it with 2 tech plants and hold tournaments for it every few months or something.

Competitive pvp was something we all looked for in PS1, HT, PCP and FC had attempted Tods at private towers regularly and there was about 18 outfits from each server that signed up for compete in outfit wars.

the regular game is good and all, but outfit wars totally changes the way you play the game and i think its good to have some variety in the game.

[Red Beard]

Originally Posted by SKYeXile

This is the 6th time we have made this thread, and we have become very efficient at it.


i liked outfit wars, but yea it shouldn't be apart of the the regular game, jsut held every so often. also it should be a platoon of 30, thats well over the amount of people thats generally considered a competitive number for PvP.

lol! That's the best post I've seen all week!

[SKYeXile]

Originally Posted by Red Beard

lol! That's the best post I've seen all week!

i couldn't find the regular pic i use for it, CBFed making one...so ponies will suffice...its gonna be my theme now after i joined a brony WOT clan. :P

[Malorn]

There's no ESport in PlanetSide.

I know Higby's all gung-ho about ESports and loves StarCraft, but apart from StarCraft in South Korea and DoTA there are no real ESports, and they're only big in countries that don't have big normal sports. It really is a strange StarCraft phenomena.

The only Teams in PlanetSide are the empires, and those teams play each other constantly every day in PlanetSide. If anything there might be "seasons" where empire success is measured by resource income, territory ownership, captures, and similar metrics which show that empire being successful against the other empires. They could also display that sort of thing each and every day in PlanetSide or through fan sites and apps.

Blizzard tried really hard to E-sportify WoW with Arenas like they did with StarCraft and it failed horribly. They're likely going to try the same thing with D3. Some things aren't suited to be ESports, and PlanetSide is definitely one of them. I would say any MMO shouldn't be an E-sport. Trying to make it one would only detract from the game and add silly mechanics that shouldn't be there.

I see E-sports the same way I see PvE content - keep it the hell away from PlanetSide 2!

[cellinaire]

Originally Posted by Malorn

There's no ESport in PlanetSide.

I know Higby's all gung-ho about ESports and loves StarCraft, but apart from StarCraft in South Korea and DoTA there are no real ESports, and they're only big in countries that don't have big normal sports. It really is a strange StarCraft phenomena.

The only Teams in PlanetSide are the empires, and those teams play each other constantly every day in PlanetSide. If anything there might be "seasons" where empire success is measured by resource income, territory ownership, captures, and similar metrics which show that empire being successful against the other empires. They could also display that sort of thing each and every day in PlanetSide or through fan sites and apps.

Blizzard tried really hard to E-sportify WoW with Arenas like they did with StarCraft and it failed horribly. They're likely going to try the same thing with D3. Some things aren't suited to be ESports, and PlanetSide is definitely one of them. I would say any MMO shouldn't be an E-sport. Trying to make it one would only detract from the game and add silly mechanics that shouldn't be there.

I see E-sports the same way I see PvE content - keep it the hell away from PlanetSide 2!

...Bolded part. Not cool. Is the E-Sports an inferior sub-culture and abomination, or do you just simply want them to stay away from mmos?

[FortySe7en]

Originally Posted by Malorn

but apart from StarCraft in South Korea and DoTA there are no real ESports,

This exploded all my brain cells in a single swipe. I can't believe the amount of "whutchu talkin bout willis" in that statement.

So...wrong.....