Sunderer vs. Galaxy

Furio · 2003-01-07, 04:32 PM

Since the game isnt out yet most of this is speculation. But I am wondering what is the point of the Sunderer if theres a Galaxy?
Well heres what we know.
Galaxy
Designed to carry a full squad of players (one pilot, three gunners, six passengers, two heavy driver, parmors, and a light tank or buggy with assengers and gunner),
The Galaxy utilizes three 20mm cannons in its gunner positions for point defense against ground vehicles.
Sunderer
The gigantic ground transport that can carry a driver, two gunners, and a full squad across terrain

Ok first of all it doesnt say anything about a Sunderer being able to carry a buggy like Galaxy. Galaxy 1 Sunderer0

Galaxys are not effected by terrain. Sunderers are Galaxy 2 Sunderer 0

Galaxy has 3 guns Sunderer 2 they may or may not be the same types of guns but 3>2 so Galaxy 3 Sunderer 0

Speculation: Galaxy is in the air so it will likely move faster than something on land Galaxy 4 Sunderer 0

So what are some of the advantages of Sunderer vs Galaxy?

Saint · 2003-01-07, 04:39 PM

Tell me, which is easier to spot a raven flying in the sky or a fox running in a forest... Answer your question?

Furio · 2003-01-07, 04:40 PM

You make a good point that I forgot about (I have been thinking about this for a couple days now) Of course I believe the Sunderer is a huge truck. Which might mean theres more armor on it but its still a huge truck.

Saint · 2003-01-07, 04:40 PM

You will not be sighted as easily if you are on the ground you contrast so much more with a blue sky.

afex · 2003-01-07, 04:41 PM

Ok first of all it doesnt say anything about a Sunderer being able to carry a buggy like Galaxy. Galaxy 1 Sunderer0

why does it need to be able to carry a buggy when you could just drive next to it, or even better drive ahead of it for cover, escort. (buggy has guns)
Galaxy 0 Sunderer 1

Galaxys are not effected by terrain. Sunderers are Galaxy 2 Sunderer 0

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Galaxy 1 Sunderer 1

Galaxy has 3 guns Sunderer 2 they may or may not be the same types of guns but 3>2 so Galaxy 3 Sunderer 0

Galaxy has severe blind spots in front and above/below which the guns cant reach. chances are that the sunderers guns have 360 degree rotation.
Galaxy 1 Sunderer 2

Speculation: Galaxy is in the air so it will likely move faster than something on land Galaxy 4 Sunderer 0

I would think that since the galaxy has a larger payload it would actually move slower than the sunderer
Galaxy 1 Sunderer 3

Saint · 2003-01-07, 04:42 PM

And I am positive the ground one will have greater armor since it doesnt have to be light, because it is... well on the ground.

Kriev-Xy · 2003-01-07, 04:42 PM

probably the certification level required to drive the galaxy is higher.. also.. land attacks can be held more secretly.. if u come by air.. well u can get shotdown easily and u loose everyone.. the galaxy's pilot can get sniped.. if it happens.. the galaxy goes down hard.. i dont know how the Sunderer's pilot seat looks like.. but if its snipable.. u dont loose your hole squad cuz your pilot got sniped

edit: we dont know at what speeds both vehicules will go at.. i know that in T2 the havoc which is a smaller version of a dropship but its fairly slow compared to a tank

afex · 2003-01-07, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Kriev-Xy
probably the certification level required to drive the galaxy is higher.. also.. land attacks can be help more secretly.. if u come by air.. well u can get shotdown easily and u loose everyone.. the galaxy's pilot can get sniped.. if it happens.. the galaxy goes down hard.. i dont know how the Sunderer's pilot seat looks like.. but if its snipable.. u dont loose your hole squad cuz your pilot got sniped

you dont crash if the pilot gets sniped (which i doubt you could do to a galaxy anyway)

it would go into auto-hover mode when it loses its pilot

edit: we dont know at what speeds both vehicules will go at.. i know that in T2 the havoc which is a smaller version of a dropship but its fairly slow compared to a tank

we're not comparing the galaxy to the vangaurd, we're comparing it to heavy ground troop transport. the sunderer isn't a tank.

SandTrout · 2003-01-07, 04:45 PM

Sunderers have greater armor than Galaxies(just speculateing, but it would make sense). Gal 4, Sun 1

Sunderers are easyer to defend because they have fewer angels to worry about. Gal 4, Sun 2

Sunderers can be defended by infantry, buggies, and/or tanks. Gal 4, Sun 3

Sunderers can easily deploy and retreive infantry without haveing to find a large area to land. Gal 4, Sun 4

Sunderers would likely be less visable to radar, and definately to optical observation. Sun 5, Gal 4

Each vehicle has its pros and conns. Useing them effectively is the key to a successful(sp?) assault.

On HALO drop assaults you will of course use Galaxies.

When you're trying to get a squad close into the action in a heavy battle or out of it, you'll use a sunderer.

Furio · 2003-01-07, 04:46 PM

Made some good points. We will probably learn more advantages and disadvantages of it all once it comes closer to release.

These arise new questions which is better for people who just like to travel a continent and defend hacked bases. Obviously speed is important but so is power.

SandTrout · 2003-01-07, 04:47 PM

He he, rapid assault on the thread

Airlift · 2003-01-07, 04:49 PM

No way should the Galaxy move slower than the sunderer. Kind of the whole wheels vs wings thing.

However, the benefit to the Sunderer in my mind will be using it as part of a large ground force. It is a less consipicuous target in the middle of a column of heavy tanks than a Galaxy would be as it comes down to deploy troops.

It also can potentially take more damage than a galaxy because it doesn't have to stay in the air.

I think the Galaxy will be used more for small actions and the Sunderer will be used more as part of a huge battle.

Sputty · 2003-01-07, 05:08 PM

I agree. I thknk the Galaxy would be good for quick attacks where you can get in and wait for heavy tanks or not need them but in the major tank attacks where infantry will just protect the tanks and take the base that will be the sunderer's area of use. It is alot easier to hide an APC behind tanks than a galaxy..hehe

Kalam · 2003-01-07, 06:50 PM

Another point is that you need a special facility to spawn a Galaxy

I think the Sunderer can be spawnt at every ground vehicle station

shadowwolf · 2003-01-07, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by Kalam
Another point is that you need a special facility to spawn a Galaxy

I think the Sunderer can be spawnt at every ground vehicle station

Was just about to say this.