Time to bounce outta here

[TekDragon]

I'd just like to start off by saying that I have, for the most part, enjoyed my stay at PSU over the past 7 months. I feel that I have gotten to know most of you and, through that, most of you have earned my respect. I hope that you guys feel the same about me but, either way, it doesnt make a difference in the end.

I remember when I first came to The Lounge. I can remember testing the waters of the community and, every now and then, voicing my opinion on a particular subject. Some of the time i got flamed but I was used to that as it is a public forum. Despite the occasional flames there were others who enjoyed lively debating and who were willing to engage in logical debates on everything from politics, to games, to morals.

As i began to feel that, for the most part, I had become known and accepted as a member (albiet a new member) of the community I tried making my own threads. With my writing style and my tendency to always voice an opinion: many of my threads turned into huge debating affairs. I think all the old members here can remember "The Matrix" thread... all 200+ posts of it. I remember the debating, the discussions, the opinions, the points, and the counter points.

Oh yes.. and i remember the flames.

I remember the individuals who saw no need to participate in an intellegent debate. The individuals who thought they could prove how "l33t" they were by running into the thread, flaming, throwing up a few "your an idiot" pictures, and then running off. I wont point names but we ALL know who they are.

Despite the occasional stumbling into immaturity that those threads had, there were still enough intellegent posters to keep the debates lively, interesting, and (most importantly) relatively mature.

All of that started changing a little while ago...

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Over the past two months there has been a significant change to PSU. Stagnation and elitism were the problems. Members with "l33t whore" under their names, despite the fact that many of them attained that status only through spamming, were for some reason held above new members, even ones who proved their worth by offering opinions and brining life into PSU.

Alas, those "new bloods" were usually mocked, flamed, and rediculed by a few of the "elites" of PSU. Nothing could be done to stop it. If a "recruit" bothered to point out the ignorance and immaturity of one of the "l33t whores" he was instantly set upon by the whole family.

Because of this.. very few recruits stayed to become soldiers. Personally, i dont blame them. As i said in another thread: "Theres only so many times you voice your opinion, only to get flamed to a crisp, before you pack up and move to greener pastures".

It seems that most of the quality posters have left the forums. No longer do we see debates on politics, morals, or even the nature of gaming. All that can be found now is debates on kittens vs spoons or hi-jacked threads turned into petty flame wars.

News articles are no longer discussed. Books and movies are no longer critiqued. All that can be found is the same.. senceless.. useless... drivel.

Its as if everyone with the intellegence to form an opinion has left.

Or perhaps its because everyone who bothers to voice an opinion is beaten into submission via flames and "your an idiot" pictures".

Or pershaps the latter is the reason for the former. Thats my guess... but ill let you form your own.

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To sum it up.. this place just isnt fun anymore. The quality posters have been kicked and beaten until they left. No new blood is coming to fill their places. The "l33t whores" now band together in an even tighter group, flaming and mocking anyone not in their "click".

Its just not a fun place anymore.

Peace.

[r3d]

Cya round tek, I still remember the good fun we had when we argued about games that one night. Cya later man

[EineBeBoP]

well, im not gunna lie. We havent exactally been friends. but ive tryed to respect your opinion (and failed miserably at times).

it wont be the same w/o you. not saying better or worse, just... differant.

Been good knowing yah, Good luck in the military. Dont go getting yourself killed. and after that, good luck in life.

your a contriversial guy. some will be happy your going, some will be sad. But dont change for anyone but urself.

possibly see ya around.



(yeah, theres for everyone no matter how stupid i think some of your posts are)

[Pilgrim]

Later Tek...

I'll miss reading your posts, for hours and hours, and hours

[Mtx]

So.. there has been interesting activity taking place here in the lounge afterall.. and I thought you people were boring.

*grabs popcorn*

Sense you're leaving why don't you pop off a few names so PSU can correct itself or these people can be aware of their l33tness evils and correct themselves.

What's with all these people leaving lately? Why can't I get these results in the political forum?

Don't run away from them Tekdragon. Don't let them win like that.

[xuur]

so do what I do. lurk and pop in with a self righteous remark or other epithet just to say your piece occasionally, then get back to work.

just keep in mind, you gotta have somewhere to dump that kinda stuff off (opinions, rants, suggestions, outrageous inuendo..etc). where better?

give up trying to find intelligent conversation on the net. 90% of the time you will, in the longrun, be disappointed.
save that for people you really give a sh!t about.

other than that, you're ok with me. I cant fault anyone for expressing an opinion if its done well and dont think we've ever had a run in.

whereever you go, may you find what you seek

x

[Squick]

Isn't it a bit hypocritical to complain about the spam and spoon/kitten nonsense when you make posts like that yourself? "My first decree as god" is a good example.

I never even read those spam posts, I just ignore them. Not sure why you are getting all huffy about them, you must enjoy them enough to make your own post about kittens.

Squick

[Mejwell]

I'm afraid that I haven't really been around long enough to enjoy your presence, but if this last post is any indication you're a person that I would've enjoyed hanging around with. I'm sorry see you go.

One thing I would like to say is that you should lay back, relax, and not take these forums too seriously. Better put: "Don't take life too seriously. You'll never make it out alive."

[BUGGER�GHO�T]

if i leave, do i gota make a bigass speach like tek so everyone will remember me?

well, latrz tek.

[Sputty]

I think it's clique, not click
I choose only to comment on that

[Happy lil Elf]

Later, Tek.

[Vick]

Thats funny, the flaming I see is from you.

You have been "kicked and beaten" because you are an asshole to people. You did not debate, you just screamed "fuck" at the top of your lungs with your hand over your ears, saying anyone who does not agree with you is a moron. You just tried to put people down, like your some interweb bully. You said horrible things about people who did nothing to you directly.

Why is Dio liked, but you are not? He doesnt flame.

[simba]

Originally posted by Vick
You did not debate, you just screamed "fuck" at the top of your lungs with your hand over your ears, saying anyone who does not agree with you is a moron.

I cant remember that he ever did that

anyway, im sad to see u leave tek, it has been great reading ur posts, good luck in the future.

[Strygun]

I will remind everyone before you read my post that I am a staff member of PSU, and my views do not reflect the community's views. Also, I have no hard feelings against anyone, especially tek, but I think as a member of the community I have the right to voice my opinion. No hard feelings.

Tek, I think that by making this post, you are proving the arguments of others who oppose you. By making this post you are, in my opinion, screaming for attention and want to "go down in PSU forum history." Just because things are getting tough and some people don't necessarily like you (again, see the paragraph at the top of my post here) doesn't mean you have been ousted from the community.

In all honesty, I see and relate to both sides of the Tek vs. Dio argument/debate. I will not take sides for many reasons, one of which is my position on the staff here. I will say, however, that both of you like to poke the fire. Both of you have little sticks and when you see a debate or argument, you like to go in and poke everyone with your stick and then run off. Dio's stick is images and small phrases, your stick is long winded posts that eventually insult someone.

By leaving here, you are immitating Unregistered (the older community members will remember him), in that you get angry, and then when you get argued with, you leave. I say you stay and fight your battles instead of running away from them. You are noticing all the "l33t" posters and all that crap? Guess what. There's an ignore button, and I promise you it works. Trust me, don't judge PSU by the few who think they are something. Continue to make your arguments (although being a little nicer in them [aka not insulting someone because of their views] would most likely earn you the respect of the "l33t" posters.)

Again, I think by leaving here with the reasons you've provided is absolutely hypocritcal (this is constructive criticism), and I think that you are going against what you so passionetly argue by leaving.

Once again, please reread the first paragraph in this thread and know that there are no hard feelings towards anyone. If you think there are some, I apologize in advance, I did not mean them.


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To the outside readers of this thread. Don't go and post insulting or degrading remarks in this thread. Keep it cool, keep it real, keep it real cool. (and civil)

[Onizuka]

Tek Its time to brake out of the shell (i hope you dont see this).

back in the matrix thread, when i made my point over and over, tek swore me out and said he was done with me, probably pissed because i had made a good point.

Please PLEASE read this. please.


Anywho, I felt bad because he was mad and such, so i pmed him an apology, here it is:

"do you hate me? seriously, do you. I dont hate you, i just disagree with you on a few things. I am not the worst spammer.... it seems that when squeeky goes thats even worse. Or when you post something, and then post something else without anyone replying to you.

I really wish you would stop bashing me. "oh oni is the worst spammer next to zetre" or whatever.

Like i said it wasnt the psu orgy-fest a new thread was created from the name, and in it you called the thread stupid and pointless (which it is) and then flamed me!!

Look, i just hope you will stop. Stop calling me a child, and the ultimate spammer.

Please reconsider as my intentions to this pm are only good.

-oni"

Then he sent me this:

"All i want is three things from you:

1. Sincere apology for stalking me like a lil bitch after the marijuana thread.
2. Promise to stop spamming every god damn thread you see. If you cant post something on topic then DONT POST Dont just hit the "reply" button for the hell of it to up your post count. We dont want to read that shit.
3. Promise to stop sneaking up after ive posted and am done with a thread, then making a cheap shot on me to look cool in front of your little children friends.

Thats it. Those three things. Thats all i want. Simple courtesy and forum respect. You do those 3 things and ill delete all the posts ive made about you."

Then i sent this back to him in reply:

"1. i feel that i made a sincere arguement on the marijuana thread. i think you just got pissed cause i made a point

2. i spammed more when i first joined and im sorry if that bugged you. thats fixed now.

3. i dont do that

well thx

i hope you will........... oh why bother"

then i got this back (read this one carefully) :

"See? You fuking did it again. You cant stay on topic. You like a little child. I dont give a SHIT what you said in the marijuana thread. My request for an apology was for the next WEEK you spent stalking my ass, popping up in threads, flaming me, then running. For 4-5 days you did that shit and i NEVER replied. Then when I finally got sick of it you acted all bitch and tried crying that *IM* the one making trouble.

THATS what I want an apology for.


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2. i spammed more when i first joined and im sorry if that bugged you. thats fixed now.
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Your still spamming. You just spammed in the mixed drink thread. How the hell can it be "fixed" when you just spammed 30 minutes ago? No one asked you to come onto that thread. No one wanted your god damned opinion. You just decided to show up, and ruin a fucking thread.


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3. i dont do that
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You DO do that Oni. Thats why Im so fukin sick of you. Thats why Hamma done ban me for fucking with you now. Fact is you DO pop up, flame, and run. You did it to me dozens of times. You did it to others too. Do i need to go back and quote all the fuckin times you ran into a thread where me and someone else was having a discussion and you decided to call me a "pot head" or a "stoner" then run out? You like a little fucking child.

You know what Oni? Im just about done trying to reason with you. Not only are you an immature forum whore, but your a fuckin liar too. You cant even acknowledge the stupid shit you do. At least when Squeeky acts ignorant and flames someone he admits it. You do it, then run, then lie. No ones fooled. We ALL know your a little bitch. Im getting real fuckin sick of it."

Then i sent this:

"when did i stalk you? wtf you talkin bout? flamed you, SO DID EVERYONE ELSE. a good number of people called you a pothead or a stoner but i never called you either of those look it up.
Yeah your the one making trouble too..... look at the way your talking to me: calling me a bitch and a child; i never called you either of those........

also that wasnt spam on the mixed drinks thread and SOMEONE ELSE brought up "good boy and bad boy" stuff so you an stop quoting me with it being related to other peoples posts to make me look like an idiot.

whos backing you tek. who? i know people dont like how you flame in every thread and wont get over the past. no one invited anyone to post on that thread so i dont know what your talking about and no one wanted your opinion either, or to know that you get girls drunk to bang them.

I dont run out of threads like a child and i never called you a pothead or stoner... prove me wrong
If i didnt reply to what you said after i said something to you (which you have done many times to me) its because you said something stupid in which i have no comment. you dont want me to spam do you?

in general im not sure why your a cold-hearted, mean, vulgar, extremely insecure individual. i never called you a bitch fucking retard or anything of the kind YOUR the one doing that. I never meant to hurt you like your meaning to hurt me......

please come to an understanding"

Then sata...err tek sent this back:

"You know what the difference is between you and me, Oni? Ill give you an example:

My situation:




I make a thread on the Matrix 2 and how i have not seen it yet. I also comment that I would like to see it high on marijuana.

Some people come in and joke about Matrix sucking and how ill need to be high to enjoy it. Just messin around stuff

You, squeeky, and prowler come in and start flaming me and everyone else who thinks marijuana is ok

You refuse to listen to any rational arguments, you just keep on flaming (i can ressurect the thread to prove it too)

After posting 5-10 pages of medical journal research, all of which was ignored by you and prowler (squeeky seemed to learn), i gave up and said "fuk it, it aint woth it"

I let the thread die and ignored your childish attempts at flaming me for the next 5 days when you stalked me into every thread i went in



Ryuuji's situaton:



flames me in the matrix thread and ignores all attempts to have a civil, logical, debate

2 weeks later, makes a thread with the sole purpose of flaming somoene



YOU actually see these two situations and say that Ryuuji is acting like me? Wrong Oni.

Your problem is you dont see the difference between:
1. Minding your own business
2. Stalking and flaming people

I try to do the first, unless someone specifically starts an argument with me.

You, on the other hand, follow the second guideline.

Its true. I know it. You know it. Your ignorant post on Ryuuji's DEFENDING his actions shows what kind of a poster you are: an ignorant, flaming child.

You want me to stop calling you a child Oni? Stop acting like one. What was the point in you posting on his thread, defending him? There wasnt one, you just wanted to pick a fight.

Your pathetic. Im currently discussing what to do about you with Hamma. I could just ignore you, but since you chase me into every thread I post in, and flame me, it woudnt be effective. Youd start flame wars without me even seeing you did it.

Ill just keep saving all the ignorant posts you make about me. Once ive collected enough of them ill send them to Hamma and ask for you to be temp banned until you learn how to post like an adult."

Then i sent:

"ummm okay
i already discussed what to do with you to hamma and so have you and he said that just because me or you or anyone doesnt like someone, doesnt mean they will get banned. Whats the point in calling me an ignorant child? to make me feel bad? to get me down? to make me change my ways?

i think you but very unreasonable and you should apologize"

That was basically it. He put me on ignore and walked like an ass.

WHOS THAT BAD PERSON NOW? bye tek.