VS, why bother?

SkunkPunk · 2003-10-26, 11:15 AM

my rant is about CC... why bother with vanu anymore? our hovering abilities have gone common pool, our MAXes jumping have gone common pool(to some extent). Our lasers and shit? you guessed it common pool! why would some one even want to play VS anymore? for TR u get all the bang for the VS + Chainguns... i know i will still play as vanu but im worried about the pop dropping after CC release... its fucking bullshit that our shit has gone common pool

TR = ROF (now with VS manouverability(sp?))
NC = DPS (now with VS manouverabilty(sp?))
VS = Manouverabilty - rate of fire, or damage per shot...

devs i know u post here, so explain i know uve said that its not the same technology as us, but that doesent matter thats like giving the VS an MCG and calling it a mini chaingun 2 and claiming its not the same as TR...

Phaden · 2003-10-26, 11:21 AM

Well i have news, the devs post here but not as frequent as in the OF. Also they probably will not be "called out" by someone who is not going to take the time to spell and capitalize correctly ( and yes, i dont do i right either).

The ziplines i assume is what you are mentioning? They brought this up in the QA with devs on Hamma time a while back. Wouldnt it be fun if 2 of the empires could only stay on the ground, except for the percent that has a air vehic? Ohh yeeehhhhh Cause then this would leave the top buildings totaly unaccseissble to NC or TR. Yeh, see thats what the VS need, someplace they can go and fight, without the worry of of any enemy being there.(/end sarcasm)

Im sure you play VS and or are just trying to complain, but this is why there is a beta, to work out things. And you want to know what? If the is a problem, then they will probably fix it.

Aen · 2003-10-26, 11:22 AM

This is true. I thought we were the Sovereigns of Vanu crap anyways. What more do we know/have than any other empire?

Phaden · 2003-10-26, 11:26 AM

Well you still have the jump jets, as last i checked, no one else had those. And as the manueverability, im sure you might be talking about this new ATV? Its sposed to handle pretty decent? oh no!!! Cause as i recall, and enforcer and harrasser dont exactly handle like crap either.

Oh i was just thinking. Instead of having empire specific weapons, lets make EVERYTHING common pool. This would totally alleviate ballancing as everyone would have the same stuff!!! YAY

arctik · 2003-10-26, 11:41 AM

Yes but if everything was common pool PS would get boring and it wouldn't have the same feel. One side against another because the only difference would be color. Yay. It would be hard to have grudges or get attached to an empire for me atleast.

Aen · 2003-10-26, 11:44 AM

Phaden, your just not on the same page as us.

What SkunkPunk was trying to say, imo, is that the TR have "rate of fire"(fast weapons), the NC have "Power"(heavy damage weapons), and the VS have.....

Do you see the point now. Before CC we have the hover crafts (Magriders, and Threshers) and our maxes have mad hops. Ok, thats reasonable. But with CC, the Switchblade can hover (VS characteristic) which is common pool, and the new weapons seem to have a VS feel cause they don't spray bullets or flak, but a type of energy. And regular MAX's can jump now. This all making the VS a little weaker and the TR and NC a little boost.

By sharing these characteristics, we lose a little of our edge. Yes, we still own in those categories, but its just the matter of the fact.

Not trying to bitch, but I agree with what he says to an extent.

I thought we were the Sovereigns of Vanu crap anyways. What more do we know/have than any other empire?

(Yes, I quoted myself

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Veteran · 2003-10-26, 11:53 AM

What do the VS have?

HMMM the Mag-Rider (sniper-tank), Lasher (excellent Heavy Assault) and jumping MAXs (more tactical applications). They are doing fine and the devs have buffed their assets more than any other faction.

Did you think VS would have the only energy weapons? That's kind of assuming a lot, eh? VS is doing just fine, I don't think they need you to champion them.

Cider_Ownz · 2003-10-26, 12:01 PM

Beta patcher is busy downloading now, and I shall see if you thou art correctest.

I do have to say that it does sound a little bit of an over-rant.

So all empires get one vehicle that can hover.

And a "feel" of vanu weapons? let me quote the average troll:

[/U]"WTF???!!!!!111 OMFG U STFU U FUKIN NOOB STFU!!!!!!!!!!111"[U]

Not exactly how I feel, but it pretty much sums it up.

Infernus · 2003-10-26, 12:05 PM

I am forbidden by an NDA to say anything that could possibly refute your claims... but I do have a question. HAVE EITHER OF YOU LITTLE WHINERS ACTUALLY PLAYED BETA? PILOTED THE NEW VEHICLES? USED THE NEW GUNS? TRAVELED THE ZIP LINES?

Thank you come again...

Indecisive · 2003-10-26, 01:19 PM

Purple = ownage.

That is all.

Biohazzard56 · 2003-10-26, 01:29 PM

Yea wait until you play CC to judge

00AgentDuck · 2003-10-26, 02:37 PM

What I see, is that mostly all of the TR and NC are saying how strong VS are in specific things that now we aren't as strong in. Try playing Vs please, I play all three and I see all people's sides of it. For one, the magrider is not a sniper tank, try and gun one yourself, and the lasher could be a bit better. As for the max jump jets... whoopie I have a max that can jump high, and since there is no cover in the air, thus he gets shot down more and an easier target. Also jump-jets are more predictable and when you jump over a wall or onto a tree... it isn't exactly the best tactical point. Everyone says vanu has manuverability, the vanu are better in it, but not as good as I would hope.

Also, VS edge has been taken off somewhat with the new weapons I agree. If the new weapons are supposed to be better, then why in the world would VS try and make a new gun (the lasher) useing vanu and probably human tech?

Ignore Me · 2003-10-26, 03:39 PM

I'm betting none of you who're complaining have played CC:Beta. Wait two more days, and we'll give you the chance to retract your statements then.

ghost

SkunkPunk · 2003-10-26, 04:02 PM

my statements are based around BETA, fuck the NDA i dont give a shit so many ppl already violated and no punishment... im not saying its cheap im saying VS is common pool, hell did u know a regular max can jump higher than a guy in rexo? well they can... also in beta, we all know how much the TR and NC complained about our 'magmowers' since the other factions got hovering vehicles 80% of the time a hover vehicle kills me its cuz i got mowed... our weapons are fine in balance, but the purpose of the empire is common pool...

Adun · 2003-10-26, 04:31 PM

If people are going to use VS hover stuff, the VS's should bring their stuff up a knotch. Rockets or something to hop cliffs and stuff underground.

They wont actually lift the tanks and other hovering stuff up, they'll just stop them from falling. So a Magrider can get across a gap in a cavern by driving at it and when it goes off the edge some kind of rockets will hold it up for like 4 seconds, enough to get into places other factions cant.

this can be taken to a whole new level..

This can be used to make faction exclusive bases that others cant touch.

-Terran enclosed veicles aka heavy veicles and MAX(tanks, lightning, NOT marauder) can cross shallow lava into special areas.
-Conglamorate heavy veicles and MAX/medium armor can go through radioactive areas that would kill the drivers of other factions. If a non NC guy dies from it, his/her veicle is left there for someone to hack.
-Vanu can do the hover thing i described, and high level VS can use personal jetpacks, not as good as the max ones, though. It will need special assault AND a command rank, like 3 or something.

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